Early thread for Wisconsin/Indiana 01/31/07

[onlooker]

Thanks guys.

[cadillacb]

History Lesson For Onlooker

NFL is not a good comparison to college sports. College sports live off ratings and polls. If we like it or not.

Trust me I understand the spread, and yes, its not a upset in that aspect. But the better team did get beat, and that to me is a upset. The site where the game was played is why the team was favored by closing.

I hope you all made out big on this game, since you all knew Indiana was going to win this game.

What the hell, give me a history lesson. This should be good.

The term upset was derived from the 1919 sanford memorial stakes, a horse race, when the great horse Man O' War was defeated by a 100-1 longshot. This was Man O' War's only loss of his career, and the horse who beat him? His name was Upset, thus giving us the present-day term upset. Note that Man O' War was -10000 not +125 like wisconsin.

[LT Profits]

Onlooker,

I love you man, but the proper definition of an upset is an underdog winning outright. Indiana was favored by 2.5 or 3 here, so this was definitely NOT an upset! The fact that Wisconsin may still be the better team and was ranked #2 in the country coming in is totally irrelavent, as it is the POINTSPREAD that determines if a game is an upset or not, period.

[Razz]

Easy-Easy here fellas... This is an upset if you are looking at the rankings... However, IU is always strong on the home floor... If these two teams played in Wisconsin, the Badgers would probably be favored by 5 or 6... IU is coming on strong and I believe will be a tough out in the NCAA tourney this year... I was glad to be able to see my favorite team win and also make money off of them... The Badgers will not be fazed by this loss at all... Actually, I think this loss helps them because they will come down to earth a little bit... I think they win the Big 10 title easily this year... They might suffer one more loss @ Ohio State, but other than that I can't see anyone else beating them... Congrats to everyone that was on IU and thanks for the kind words...

Haven't looked at the schedule, but if Wisky travels to East Lansing, I'm thinking MSU will beat them as well. That won't be an upset either.

[Peyton2MarvinN06]

Easy-Easy here fellas... This is an upset if you are looking at the rankings... However, IU is always strong on the home floor... If these two teams played in Wisconsin, the Badgers would probably be favored by 5 or 6... IU is coming on strong and I believe will be a tough out in the NCAA tourney this year... I was glad to be able to see my favorite team win and also make money off of them... The Badgers will not be fazed by this loss at all... Actually, I think this loss helps them because they will come down to earth a little bit... I think they win the Big 10 title easily this year... They might suffer one more loss @ Ohio State, but other than that I can't see anyone else beating them... Congrats to everyone that was on IU and thanks for the kind words...

[onlooker]

Thanks BuddyBear.

I've been confused more then once in my life. But it was still a upset.

Good luck today guys.

[BuddyBear]

Are you guys absolute morons?, if a team is supposed to win then, (note correct usage of then) It can not be an upset, doesnt matter if im wearing a betting suit, a bathing suit, or any other suit. onlooker you are an idiot

Way to introduce yourself Cadillac....Onlooker is not an idiot by any stretch of the imagination. He is one of the best across the gaming forum scene. He knows what he is talking about....he is just a little confused here.

[Checkerboard]

Peyton2MarvinN06 thanks for posting.

[onlooker]

I guess that means that people think the colts beating the bears would be an (note correct usage of an, as an precedes vowels, not a) upset because the bears have the better record? No, nobody thinks that everyone knows that the colts are the favorites. The world revolves around point spreads and they determine upsets, not moron fans or media. Should you decide you want a history lesson on the term "upset" make another dumb statement and one, or as you would say "Won" will be provided.

NFL is not a good comparison to college sports. College sports live off ratings and polls. If we like it or not.

Trust me I understand the spread, and yes, its not a upset in that aspect. But the better team did get beat, and that to me is a upset. The site where the game was played is why the team was favored by closing.

I hope you all made out big on this game, since you all knew Indiana was going to win this game.

What the hell, give me a history lesson. This should be good.

[cadillacb]

I guess that means that people think the colts beating the bears would be an (note correct usage of an, as an precedes vowels, not a) upset because the bears have the better record? No, nobody thinks that everyone knows that the colts are the favorites. The world revolves around point spreads and they determine upsets, not moron fans or media. Should you decide you want a history lesson on the term "upset" make another dumb statement and one, or as you would say "Won" will be provided.

[onlooker]

Are you guys absolute morons?, if a team is supposed to win then, (note correct usage of then) It can not be an upset, doesnt matter if im wearing a betting suit, a bathing suit, or any other suit. onlooker you are an idiot

Thanks for the kind words cadillac.

Looking at it from the rankings (polls and rpi), its a upset. Thats why you get a reaction like that from fans and someone that is not up to speed with the betting aspect of the game.

Thats just the way it is. I feel its a upset because "I" think Wisconsin is a better team then Indiana. By mid-march, Indiana could be out of the top 25.

[cadillacb]

Are you guys absolute morons?, if a team is supposed to win then, (note correct usage of then) It can not be an upset, doesnt matter if im wearing a betting suit, a bathing suit, or any other suit. onlooker you are an idiot

[Razz]

It's the University of Indiana. If it was Purdue, or Michigan, or Iowa, maybe this could be referred to as an upset. But not a school with this much history that has been playing so well. I can't believe anyone that knows anything about college basketball would make that mistake.

[BuddyBear]

rankings are arbitrary numbers that mean absolutely nothing....in this given situation Indiana is the better team and SHOULD win the game. It's not an upset by any stretch of the imagination. Fans are looking for excuses to run onto the court...

[onlooker]

Sorry, but a 2.5 point favorite winning isn't an upset in any world.

It can be a upset in more way then one. Step out of the betting suit for a minute and take away the spread. Sometimes its good to look at things without thinking betting.

[bigboydan]

It is when that other team is ranked #2, and the media don't care about spreads at all. (RPI ranking would claim differently)

[Razz]

Yes, a #25 beating a #2. Upset.

Not talking the spread here.

Sorry, but a 2.5 point favorite winning isn't an upset in any world.

[bigboydan]

Looks like your early homework paid ofd on this one P2M.

Congrats

[onlooker]

Upset?

Nice call P2M.

Yes, a #25 beating a #2. Upset.

Not talking the spread here.

[BuddyBear]

love the fans running on the court...hello, your team was favored in the game.

[Razz]

Good job, and congratulations for your favorite team pulling a big upset.

Upset?

Nice call P2M.

[EaglesPhan36]

Congrats to the IU backers. I was disappointed that the total went over! Where was the D in the 2nd half?!

[onlooker]

Good job, and congratulations for your favorite team pulling a big upset.

[gummo]

[Peyton2MarvinN06]

OH MY GOD! HELL YEAH! IU WINS! IU WINS!

Props to everyone that followed me on the Hoosiers! Had a great feeling that they were gonna win this game! Fvck the AP who dropped IU out of the top 25 this week! This was a hell of a game gentlemen! Did anyone else get to watch it? It was on espn + so i was wonderin if anyone would get to see it... Oh man I'm pumped! IU beats #2 Wisconsin tonight, the Colts win the Super Bowl on Sunday! HELL YEAH!

[EaglesPhan36]

Wisconsin +3? Wow, you guys have been hammering this line! Sorry, but I'm jumpin' on the Badgers with the points now.

[gummo]

oops wrong thread.

[Hemlock21]

Logical handicapping tells me Wisconsin, but the Big Ten home dominance scares me, so I will just pass and watch my KNICKS +150 wager instead!

Good Luck All

I'll pass as well. Don't feel good either way about this one

[LT Profits]

Logical handicapping tells me Wisconsin, but the Big Ten home dominance scares me, so I will just pass and watch my KNICKS +150 wager instead!

Good Luck All

[Razz]

I'm glad someone was kind enough to accept my offer on Matchbook so I can get +109 with the Hoosiers.

[Illusion]

Hell yeah bro! I really think Indiana will win this game and snap Wisconsin's 17 game winning streak... They are having a white out tonight for the game! The crowd should be crazy and IU will feed off the fans to get the win tonight!

Let's cash this ticket!

Well, I just bet them for four units, good luck brother.

[bigboydan]

After looking at this game a bit closer, I have a very slim lean towards Wisky in this game. This Badgers team appears to be on a mission this year.

[Peyton2MarvinN06]

My early lean is Indiana pk for tonights game.

Hell yeah bro! I really think Indiana will win this game and snap Wisconsin's 17 game winning streak... They are having a white out tonight for the game! The crowd should be crazy and IU will feed off the fans to get the win tonight!

Let's cash this ticket!

[Illusion]

My early lean is Indiana pk for tonights game.

[EaglesPhan36]

Not sure I'll take a side on this one, but I'm leaning toward Wisconsin. IU hasn't played any team as complete as Wisconsin this season - be it home or away. The 3 can be negated by Wisconsin's D which is only giving up like 20-some odd percent on the road from 3-land. I think the best play in this game might be the under at 129.5. GL!