1/6/15 hoops discussion

[2daBank]

why the fukk is fsu laying 10 to anyone??

someone explain this freaking line to me! did vtech have a outbreak of some kinda illness or something? whole team suspended? what? something?

[2daBank]

vatech has only lost by that number to wvu and uni, fsu is not even in the same conversation as those two..

[Yons18]

OSU vs Minnesota total going under? (146) OSU can't really put up big numbers against quality opponents and Minnesota's press might be too much to keep that going

[2daBank]

OSU vs Minnesota total going under? (146) OSU can't really put up big numbers against quality opponents and Minnesota's press might be too much to keep that going

one of the better total players i know is on the over. minnys pace almost always wins out at home so hard for me to like a under there. then you figure in that osu is 5th in the nation at amount of time per shot i think this one will have the pace to far exceed the total, whether they make shots might be another story but i couldnt play under knowing there gonna be a ton of shots in this one.

[Vinnie Paz]

Fsu beat gators so now they're supposed to be good.....?

[Snowball]

with Providence going well into the +200s i think they are worth an ml bet.
it's going to be difficult but they are capable of it. going to need to play with
speed.. fast breaks and 3p's. this is a defining matchup for the Friars season.
Vanderbilt also a tough place to win at.. like them at home.

[2daBank]

Fsu beat gators so now they're supposed to be good.....?

no shit,, lets just disregard the fact this the worst gators team ive seen in like a decade..

[2daBank]

with Providence going well into the +200s i think they are worth an ml bet.
it's going to be difficult but they are capable of it. going to need to play with
speed.. fast breaks and 3p's.
Vanderbilt also a tough place to win at.. like them at home.

i dont think vandy is all that great, granted their home court is tough. win sure, i dont like the idea of laying the points tho.. far as provo im a little cooled on that one. provo's turnover issues last gm were a bit alarming to me cause butler turns teams over quite a bit.. then as someone mentioned they have yet to win a road gm so im starting to question whether they tough enough to do so.. just not sure they win this gm enough of the time for there to be value on the ml?

[THam12]

i dont think vandy is all that great, granted their home court is tough. win sure, i dont like the idea of laying the points tho.. far as provo im a little cooled on that one. provo's turnover issues last gm were a bit alarming to me cause butler turns teams over quite a bit.. then as someone mentioned they have yet to win a road gm so im starting to question whether they tough enough to do so.. just not sure they win this gm enough of the time for there to be value on the ml?

I think auburn has nothing outside of bowers and vandy has plenty of size to counteract him.

[RollinDo]

maac used to be my fav conf back in the day (tied with missouri valley), think they called it the metro back then.. i am not a fan of iona at all this year and i just couldnt lay that number with them, they play zero defense and quin should murder them on the glass. iona doesnt lose many home gms in conf but my strategy here will prob be to pass and hope iona smokes them so i get a favorable line when they play in quin later on..

love me some mid-majors myself.. welcome aboard man.

Loved the Valley from the mid-90's to the mid 2000's...has endured a facelift in recent years and the amount of really good teams has dwindled to 1 or 2 per year...used to have 4-5 consistently make the NIT or NCAA.

[RollinDo]

My illini just went from fukked to FUKKED. Ray rice out 6 weeks.

Yeeouch!

Arguably their best player...watched him a lot at Drake...what a baller.

[THam12]

Yeeouch!

Arguably their best player...watched him a lot at Drake...what a baller.

Arguably?! Lol.
He is one of the best in the country. Hands down

[THam12]

St johns gonna get to +5?

[THam12]

New mex is 5-0 ATS last 5 against SDSU

[2daBank]

I think auburn has nothing outside of bowers and vandy has plenty of size to counteract him.

i think vandy soft, all that size yet they terrible controlling defensive boards. just like i said against yale, lay points at your own peril. not only soft but they also sloppy with the rock, aub gonna create a lot of turnovers. granted aub really sloppy too but vandy being the softies they are dont force a lot of turnovers.. i look at vandy and see a team that has feasted on mostly crap,, obviously you see something in them i dont but that just me.. maybe they cover but there a reason that line has nosedived. i think pearl a good coach and think aub has looked better lately, but mostly i dont like vandy.. im not playing it tho so hope im wrong..

[2daBank]

Loved the Valley from the mid-90's to the mid 2000's...has endured a facelift in recent years and the amount of really good teams has dwindled to 1 or 2 per year...used to have 4-5 consistently make the NIT or NCAA.

yea they def not as deep as they used to be,, creighton leaving didnt help.. i used to play pickup ball with quite a few kids that went thru that conf back then..

[mrlif1]

st johns 1h +2.5 for me thus far.

backing the reeling team at home. i know st johns has started slow at home to serviceable teams (st marys, minnesota, gonzaga), not covering +2.5 in any of those. but i think that makes for good white board material, 'cant afford a slow start..' and with jordan back, the emotional boost (what happened unc?!) this should be a hard fought game. nova has won all four games in last two years. now you get points at home. how quickly the tide turned on the red storm...will add if this gets to 3, and considering line movement already, it should.

[2daBank]

New mex is 5-0 ATS last 5 against SDSU

and that was when sdst always had 1 guy they could go to that could score. they have no such player this season. granted new mex is prob little more down than precious versions but they do play good defense which enough to make life tough on sdst..

[2daBank]

st johns 1h +2.5 for me thus far.

backing the reeling team at home. i know st johns has started slow at home to serviceable teams (st marys, minnesota, gonzaga), not covering +2.5 in any of those. but i think that makes for good white board material, 'cant afford a slow start..' and with jordan back, the emotional boost (what happened unc?!) this should be a hard fought game. nova has won all four games in last two years. now you get points at home. how quickly the tide turned on the red storm...will add if this gets to 3, and considering line movement already, it should.

think it crazy backing them 1st half. i bet johnnies a lot and most gms i wish i waited till half, mostly they have came back and covered but man they slow starters.. you could be right that becomes a point of emphases but im not willing to bet on it..

[2daBank]

gonna be on BC at some point, just seeing if i can get better since the 2.5 being juiced pit's way..

[mrlif1]

they are indeed much better in the 2h, and i wonder if that's really lavin adjustments or just how this group goes? but this game is televised, msg, back to back to back losses for johnnies would really spell doom at this point. there must be 100% effort from jump - having seniors should make this easier to understand - and i'd bet they have it.

i am a sucker for the johnnies, ingrained fandom inherited from my father. i want this team to make noise this year. full disclosure.

[THam12]

Vandy, cincy, new mex, UCF thus far.

St johns will be added but seeing what numb3r i can get.

[2daBank]

they are indeed much better in the 2h, and i wonder if that's really lavin adjustments or just how this group goes? but this game is televised, msg, back to back to back losses for johnnies would really spell doom at this point. there must be 100% effort from jump - having seniors should make this easier to understand - and i'd bet they have it.

i am a sucker for the johnnies, ingrained fandom inherited from my father. i want this team to make noise this year. full disclosure.

i really like them this year.. i dont have any problem playing them,, id just prefer gm to half is all.. of coarse if they continue to lose 1st halves you will get a better number in 2nd anyways i guess..

[Snowball]

i dont think vandy is all that great, granted their home court is tough. win sure, i dont like the idea of laying the points tho.. far as provo im a little cooled on that one. provo's turnover issues last gm were a bit alarming to me cause butler turns teams over quite a bit.. then as someone mentioned they have yet to win a road gm so im starting to question whether they tough enough to do so.. just not sure they win this gm enough of the time for there to be value on the ml?

Butler has their weaknesses. They allow over 40% FG, which is 108th, and they are a poor free throw team,
at only 65%. Both teams avg 12 TO's per game. I don't think PC's road losses have anything to do with being
on the road, just that they had other problems. They were fine at away neutral venues.
I think the bottom line is if you believe they are more talented and coach will have the recipe for success
tonight - then they can do it.. and shred some demons.
PC ML around 235 + Vandy ML -320 looking at +340
and/or PC teased up with Vandy down. I'm going to do both.

[2daBank]

ive said a million times how unwise i think teasers are in any sport other than nfl, of coarse whenever i say this it is followed by a teaser, lol..kinda like this one tho. 4.5 points

isu-4
iona-5

[2daBank]

Butler has their weaknesses. They allow over 40% FG, which is 108th, and they are a poor free throw team,
at only 65%. Both teams avg 12 TO's per game. I don't think PC's road losses have anything to do with being
on the road, just that they had other problems. They were fine at away neutral venues.
I think the bottom line is if you believe they are more talented and coach will have the recipe for success
tonight - then they can do it.. and shred some demons.
PC ML around 235 + Vandy ML -320 looking at +340
and/or PC teased up with Vandy down. I'm going to do both.

i think their coach is one of their biggest weaknesses unfortunately.

[Snowball]

i think their coach is one of their biggest weaknesses unfortunately.

why ? Butler's coach is new and not without controversy as some wanted Miller to stay.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2015/01/02/chris-hoitmann-butler-basketball-coach/21196561/

You think Ed Cooley is too much of a "player's coach" ?

[Snowball]

well gl with your bets, men.
just gonna take Prov +7 and ML.
2dabank right about teasers. later.

[Heandog]

Snowball im with you on this one PC is evenly matched up with this team Dunn one of the best defenses players in the conference and pc has the better scorers having 3 in double digits vs 2 for Bulter, If Dunn can contain Dunham I think they can cover the number

[jellybean23]

Anyone like new mexico beating san diego , after beating colorodo state im surpised the line is 8 on a struggling offensive san diego team

[The GameDay Guru]

jeez 15.5? they gonna have to shut ecu out to cover that number, lol.. ecu's defense is so bad maybe cincy can score some points. maybe..i guess on the bright side is cincy should get a lot of easy put backs off the many many ugly bricks they throw up..

15.5 is a lot to lay.

[2daBank]

it somewhat disturbing to me when ppl ask about a gm that been talked about. i mean if ya adding something else cool. if not try reading the thread..

[2daBank]

15.5 is a lot to lay.

hammer loves eating chalk.. he prob hit, he pretty good at it.. im not.

[The GameDay Guru]

Anyone like new mexico beating san diego , after beating colorodo state im surpised the line is 8 on a struggling offensive san diego team

I happen to like New Mexico +7.5 tonight. They could win outright.

[DOM-Ganador]

it somewhat disturbing to me when ppl ask about a gm that been talked about. i mean if ya adding something else cool. if not try reading the thread..

Banker...you are crackin` me da FK up with the sheit you are laying on that dude "BALLER"
milk shooting out of my nose funny...winner,winner and more winners...