NCAAB Totals using KENPOM 2014-2015

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  • alamo
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 02-21-09
    • 7131

    #246
    As an ex employee I can tell you we didnt identify by bet volume we identified irresecptive of what stake was by the clients success. We didnt like winning bettors period. A client who consistently won was limited to £5 max bets in effect paralysing them. Whilst I don't work there anymore I can tell you that this client will be flagged very quickly.
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    • IWANTMONEY
      SBR High Roller
      • 02-28-14
      • 164

      #247
      Yes, as I thought.
      There's an interesting article somewhere written by an ex employee of a bookmaker talking about the modern "recreational" bookmakers business model. It doesn't include sustaining winning bettors at whatever level.
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      • spankmythighs
        SBR MVP
        • 01-26-10
        • 2884

        #248
        Well between this thread and following Wallco, my $7000 run in the past couple weeks has not sounded any alarms yet. In fact they just sent me a $20 bonus absolutely free for being a loyal customer. Winning bettors make up about 1-5% of the market.
        sbr
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        • IWANTMONEY
          SBR High Roller
          • 02-28-14
          • 164

          #249
          1-5% is a big spread, and they don't make up 5% at recreational books. Why would they want winning customers business? What is in it for them? They don't run rounded books. Why would they send you $20? Presumably they think your betting patterns indicate you will hit the wall.
          You've heard it here from a former employee that they effectively close winning accounts. Their business plan isn't built on sustaining winners. Recreational books will even close accounts for following certain tipsters. Glad you're doing well. Make hay while the sun shines.

          PS Heres the edited link to the article I mentioned earlier

          bettingexpertdotcom blog limiting-accounts

          actually, on double checking, it isn't the original article I mentioned. I can't find that, but this one sets the scene.
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          • ohsnapitseric
            SBR Rookie
            • 11-30-14
            • 17

            #250
            I wouldn't mind getting kicked out of a book for making too much money. 😬
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            • jeffjam_
              SBR High Roller
              • 11-02-14
              • 107

              #251
              Eastern Kentucky vs. East Tennessee St. total by KP 158, total courtesy of 5 Dimes 140'. That's a huge 18' difference. Too bad they pulled it before I was able to fire...
              Marquette vs. Arizona St., total by KP 119, total courtesy of everyone else 130'. However, this time it seems KP has the number way off, so I am staying away.
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              • jeffjam_
                SBR High Roller
                • 11-02-14
                • 107

                #252
                There might be an error at SBR Odds with duplicite total for EKY vs. ETST and Oral Roberts game, so EKY total hasn't been really up.
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                • dumdum214
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 09-29-13
                  • 159

                  #253
                  Originally posted by jeffjam_
                  Eastern Kentucky vs. East Tennessee St. total by KP 158, total courtesy of 5 Dimes 140'. That's a huge 18' difference. Too bad they pulled it before I was able to fire...
                  Marquette vs. Arizona St., total by KP 119, total courtesy of everyone else 130'. However, this time it seems KP has the number way off, so I am staying away.
                  Ken has Marquette winning 65-64 which puts the total at 129 not 119
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                  • jeffjam_
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 11-02-14
                    • 107

                    #254
                    Oh, my bad, you're right. Misread the numbers at KP. Sorry for that.

                    So after all there is nothing so far today.
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                    • dumdum214
                      SBR High Roller
                      • 09-29-13
                      • 159

                      #255
                      Yeah doesn't look like much right now. Bet a little on Wichita under 143. ken has it at 138.
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                      • spankmythighs
                        SBR MVP
                        • 01-26-10
                        • 2884

                        #256
                        Buying 2 pts and taking:

                        HOUSTON UNDER 145.5 FOR 5 UNITS
                        Kenpom=134
                        sbr
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                        • frisky
                          SBR Sharp
                          • 03-01-11
                          • 347

                          #257
                          Who's Houston playing? Don't see them anywhere
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                          • terrortwylight
                            SBR MVP
                            • 11-04-09
                            • 3032

                            #258
                            I got kicked off betus . com about 6 years ago during MLB season right before the playoffs. I had a beautiful run in the 2nd half of the season. Up until that point, I would never withdraw more than $700-$800 at a time, and at most once a month. A lot of months, I didn't withdrawal at all. In fact many months I would actually put another $100 or $200 in.

                            What I'm trying to impress upon you is I was a very average bettor at best, and I suppose all the "patterns" indicated that I would lose long term. Whatever. I'm fine with that. I work for living and gamble for fun, not the other way around.

                            So when I started killing it, it NEVER crossed my mind that I would get shut down. I thought that the streak would end any day and I'd be back to my regular habits soon. Just to be safe, I'd try to never keep more than about $1000 in there, ONLY because I had heard bad stories. Didn't think for a second I was "that guy".

                            Bunch of courier DHL checks. Paying their absurd fees each time. And then I get frozen up. Called customer service for like 2 months bitching and complaining. Didn't help my cause any because I was livid with them. But wouldn't you be? I never cheated. I never did anything wrong. I just got lucky for a little while and they got shitty with me.

                            So yeah, now I'm 100% paranoid. But I can say 5dimes has been really good to me.
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                            • HeeluvaGuy
                              SBR MVP
                              • 02-15-14
                              • 3449

                              #259
                              Lipscomb/Texas u139.5 looks like a play too.
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                              • 16johnnymac
                                SBR MVP
                                • 10-27-10
                                • 3499

                                #260
                                Originally posted by spankmythighs
                                Buying 2 pts and taking:

                                HOUSTON UNDER 145.5 FOR 5 UNITS
                                Kenpom=134
                                I think he means Sam Houston
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                                • Tboonepickem
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 09-21-13
                                  • 1113

                                  #261
                                  KenPom on Sam Houston game is 73-72 (145)
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                                  • HeeluvaGuy
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 02-15-14
                                    • 3449

                                    #262
                                    Pretty sure he meant Houston Baptist/Houston U. Kenpom has that at 134.

                                    Both this line and the Texas line are/were available on 5Dimes, but are creeping down.
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                                    • spankmythighs
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 01-26-10
                                      • 2884

                                      #263
                                      Yup Houston Baptist/Houston @Bet365
                                      sbr
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                                      • Tboonepickem
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 09-21-13
                                        • 1113

                                        #264
                                        Ahh gotcha!
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                                        • spankmythighs
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 01-26-10
                                          • 2884

                                          #265
                                          Already dropped to 140.5 from 143.5
                                          sbr
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                                          • spankmythighs
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 01-26-10
                                            • 2884

                                            #266
                                            Gonna have to spread some cash to my 5dimes acct. Seems a couple gms show up there that arent on Bet365 and viceversa
                                            sbr
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                                            • spankmythighs
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 01-26-10
                                              • 2884

                                              #267
                                              @ Terror, no offense bud but Betus is not the greatest of books nor is it a top 5 which I only use.
                                              sbr
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                                              • HeeluvaGuy
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 02-15-14
                                                • 3449

                                                #268
                                                Originally posted by spankmythighs
                                                Gonna have to spread some cash to my 5dimes acct. Seems a couple gms show up there that arent on Bet365 and viceversa
                                                5Dimes had the Houston game at 144.5 (-120) when you posted. These added games aren't available in their reduced juice package.
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                                                • spankmythighs
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 01-26-10
                                                  • 2884

                                                  #269
                                                  I use my ******** **** and get my money in 12-24 hrs. No ridiculous fees or checks. Its gonna be a gd Christmas
                                                  sbr
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                                                  • spankmythighs
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 01-26-10
                                                    • 2884

                                                    #270
                                                    Haha oops
                                                    sbr
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                                                    • spankmythighs
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 01-26-10
                                                      • 2884

                                                      #271
                                                      I locked in a couple hrs ago on Houston UNDER 145.5 @ -140
                                                      sbr
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                                                      • spankmythighs
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 01-26-10
                                                        • 2884

                                                        #272
                                                        For $800
                                                        sbr
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                                                        • spankmythighs
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 01-26-10
                                                          • 2884

                                                          #273
                                                          Currently I can early cashout for $50 profit haha
                                                          sbr
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                                                          • jeffjam_
                                                            SBR High Roller
                                                            • 11-02-14
                                                            • 107

                                                            #274
                                                            They still have Houston at 142.5 at -120. Too bad I missed the opener.
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                                                            • Scott8282
                                                              SBR High Roller
                                                              • 11-27-14
                                                              • 154

                                                              #275
                                                              Arizona v Oakland over?
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                                                              • terrortwylight
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 11-04-09
                                                                • 3032

                                                                #276
                                                                Originally posted by spankmythighs
                                                                @ Terror, no offense bud but Betus is not the greatest of books nor is it a top 5 which I only use.
                                                                no offense taken, I did very little research before getting involved w/ those shitbags.
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                                                                • epics
                                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                                  • 04-01-12
                                                                  • 155

                                                                  #277
                                                                  Originally posted by Scott8282
                                                                  Arizona v Oakland over?
                                                                  What does Kenpom have that listed as?
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                                                                  • terrortwylight
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 11-04-09
                                                                    • 3032

                                                                    #278
                                                                    Originally posted by epics
                                                                    What does Kenpom have that listed as?
                                                                    20 211 Oakland at 7 Arizona Arizona 84-62 (97%) 9:00 pm Tucson, AZ McKale Center 16.9
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                                                                    • 16johnnymac
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 10-27-10
                                                                      • 3499

                                                                      #279
                                                                      Witchita went from 142.5 to 144 maybe the under wasn't the play can you give my your thoughts
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                                                                      • spankmythighs
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 01-26-10
                                                                        • 2884

                                                                        #280
                                                                        6 pt differential between Kenpom and Bet365 for the Wichita game. Leaning under but not an official 5 unit play
                                                                        sbr
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