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  • qb1789
    SBR Sharp
    • 12-22-12
    • 497

    #1
    Bet your LIFE on...
    Baylor. They're on a roll and are 3.5 dogs. It's really laughable. They'll shut down wiscys chuckers with their length and the rest will be history. Same story as the Doug McDermott game. They're very similar minus kaminski and his ability to stretch the floor but Isaiah Awesome (real name austin for the ppl who can't understand a nickname) is still superior. They have too much blackness and talent for the unathletic badgers.

    Your all welcome for my return I will have another amazing play for you Friday. If you don't remember me check the posts was the hottest poster last CBB season. Adios
  • vicshap
    SBR Sharp
    • 02-08-12
    • 292

    #2
    Originally posted by qb1789
    Baylor. They're on a roll and are 3.5 dogs. It's really laughable. They'll shut down wiscys chuckers with their length and the rest will be history. Same story as the Doug McDermott game. They're very similar minus kaminski and his ability to stretch the floor but Isaiah Awesome (real name austin for the ppl who can't understand a nickname) is still superior. They have too much blackness and talent for the unathletic badgers.

    Your all welcome for my return I will have another amazing play for you Friday. If you don't remember me check the posts was the hottest poster last CBB season. Adios
    i just love to fade anyone who's this confident about a win or go home game.
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    • dirtycash66
      SBR MVP
      • 04-13-12
      • 2958

      #3
      @vicshap you are 100% correct
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      • drfunkmaster
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 11-29-08
        • 11162

        #4
        baylor wins
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        • qb1789
          SBR Sharp
          • 12-22-12
          • 497

          #5
          Lol always some haters gotta love it. We shall see who is 100% in a little while. Confidence breeds results btw ladies
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          • lucullus
            SBR MVP
            • 09-16-13
            • 1027

            #6
            Good picker right here. People here know I backed Baylor atleast a month ago to go all the way.
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            • jtoler
              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
              • 12-17-13
              • 30967

              #7
              Im sure you said the same thing with Oregon.
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              • pulledclear
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 02-19-12
                • 6684

                #8
                Wisconsin it is! Thanks I feel better already.
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                • qb1789
                  SBR Sharp
                  • 12-22-12
                  • 497

                  #9
                  Oregon had no D dummy. Realize I'm the sharpest of the sharp you will see that tomorrow.
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                  • dawgs777
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 02-19-14
                    • 635

                    #10
                    lets goooooo baylorrrrr
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                    • jtoler
                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                      • 12-17-13
                      • 30967

                      #11
                      Originally posted by qb1789
                      Oregon had no D dummy. Realize I'm the sharpest of the sharp you will see that tomorrow.
                      So sharp that you didnt say it before game, gotcha, welcome back to sbr. Can you explain how Baylor's defense is better while youre talking what you dont know.
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                      • pokerwhiz90
                        SBR MVP
                        • 10-02-10
                        • 2618

                        #12
                        lol look at who wisconsin lost to on the road - arguably the best team on the road all year, plays in a stronger conference, and has a far superior coach and game plan

                        baylor is much higher in talent and athleticism, but its not like wisconsin doesn't know how to score
                        also creighton was forced to drive in but often found themselves stuck in the highpost - pretty sure this won't happen to wisconsin, as they have bigs that can shoot and drive and play the post

                        also just the idea that baylor blew out a overly hyped creighton team doesn't mean they are going to roll over everyone else, it says a lot when wisconsin comes back against a very good oregon team shooting above 50% for most of the game

                        good luck with your bet, wiscy ml for me
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                        • qb1789
                          SBR Sharp
                          • 12-22-12
                          • 497

                          #13
                          Originally posted by jtoler
                          So sharp that you didnt say it before game, gotcha, welcome back to sbr. Can you explain how Baylor's defense is better while youre talking what you dont know.
                          First off I did have that game picked but I'm sure you won't believe that either. Oh and I have Baylor in my final 4.

                          Anyways I will gladly explain why baylors d is better. It's actually simple enough that you may be able to comprehend it. Oregon has no length or rim protector down low. Isaiah austin is averaging 3 blocks a game (top 20 pick). Furthermore both he and 6 ft 11 Jefferson are both athletic and long enough to defend the perimeter which will in turn lessen kaminski and company's shooting ability. Royce O Neal is a 6 ft 6 wing who is defending well also. Another big reason baylors d is better is they even have a 3rd big man Ricardo gathers who has been playing his best ball in the tourney so if one of the two studs get in foul trouble we're good. The 2-3 zone they've been using on this great 12-2 run is perfect to utilize their length and hide their undersized poor defender (heslip). Is that good enough for you?
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                          • qb1789
                            SBR Sharp
                            • 12-22-12
                            • 497

                            #14
                            Originally posted by pokerwhiz90
                            lol look at who wisconsin lost to on the road - arguably the best team on the road all year, plays in a stronger conference, and has a far superior coach and game plan

                            baylor is much higher in talent and athleticism, but its not like wisconsin doesn't know how to score
                            also creighton was forced to drive in but often found themselves stuck in the highpost - pretty sure this won't happen to wisconsin, as they have bigs that can shoot and drive and play the post

                            also just the idea that baylor blew out a overly hyped creighton team doesn't mean they are going to roll over everyone else, it says a lot when wisconsin comes back against a very good oregon team shooting above 50% for most of the game

                            good luck with your bet, wiscy ml for me
                            An educated response so refreshing! It will be no blowout that's for sure. Wiscy almost never gets blown out because of their style of play. Bo Ryan will have them ready but the talent discrepancy is just too much to overlook. Wisconsin a big strength is the two bigs who can step out and hit 3s. That's exactly what baylor can defend well with Jefferson/Austin. Gl on your bet too
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                            • LosRichards
                              SBR Hustler
                              • 01-06-14
                              • 97

                              #15
                              Never bet against a group of white boys in the sweet sixteen
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                              • robbeduagain
                                SBR MVP
                                • 08-25-12
                                • 1248

                                #16
                                You are right about the bigs for Wisc being able to shoot. But I don't think they'll just look for the 3. When Baylor's guards extend out to cover the shooters, in it will go to the middle for the15 footer or the quick pass to the short corner. I think Dekker is the key to the Badgers success
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                                • jtoler
                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                  • 12-17-13
                                  • 30967

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by qb1789
                                  First off I did have that game picked but I'm sure you won't believe that either. Oh and I have Baylor in my final 4.

                                  Anyways I will gladly explain why baylors d is better. It's actually simple enough that you may be able to comprehend it. Oregon has no length or rim protector down low. Isaiah austin is averaging 3 blocks a game (top 20 pick). Furthermore both he and 6 ft 11 Jefferson are both athletic and long enough to defend the perimeter which will in turn lessen kaminski and company's shooting ability. Royce O Neal is a 6 ft 6 wing who is defending well also. Another big reason baylors d is better is they even have a 3rd big man Ricardo gathers who has been playing his best ball in the tourney so if one of the two studs get in foul trouble we're good. The 2-3 zone they've been using on this great 12-2 run is perfect to utilize their length and hide their undersized poor defender (heslip). Is that good enough for you?
                                  You could have just said 2-3 zone is why they MAY be better on defense and it would only be because Wisky isnt used to seeing it, Oregon and Baylor give up almost identically the same amount of points so arguably Oregon is better on defense since they dont rely on a zone.
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                                  • qb1789
                                    SBR Sharp
                                    • 12-22-12
                                    • 497

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by jtoler
                                    You could have just said 2-3 zone is why they MAY be better on defense and it would only be because Wisky isnt used to seeing it, Oregon and Baylor give up almost identically the same amount of points so arguably Oregon is better on defense since they dont rely on a zone.
                                    Sorry for using too many words and information for ya bud. Anyways what your not taking into account is the run BU has been on. The middle 2-8 slide they went on ****** up their overall percentages and stats. They're a whole different team with that zone
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                                    • jtoler
                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                      • 12-17-13
                                      • 30967

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by qb1789
                                      Sorry for using too many words and information for ya bud. Anyways what your not taking into account is the run BU has been on. The middle 2-8 slide they went on ****** up their overall percentages and stats. They're a whole different team with that zone
                                      Im not saying Baylor doesnt cover and win, I lean them just havent made a bet yet, I was just initially responding to the too much blackness and talent comment, this is a team sport, "too much blackness" isnt enough.
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                                      • jtoler
                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                        • 12-17-13
                                        • 30967

                                        #20
                                        Youre also not taking into account of Wisky and not giving them enough credit regardless of what happens. Bo Ryan is a really, really, good coach, and it helps alot that Wisky has a couple bigs who can stand at the FT line, turn and shoot, pass, fake a pass, they have good ball movement, bigs who can shoot, and great 3 pt shooting, all things that it takes to beat a zone, also they run a motion offense. He can run flex, flare options, they have the players to beat it, although it doesnt mean it will happen. And Wisky does see some 1-3-1 from Michigan so they arnt foreign to it.
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                                        • robbeduagain
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 08-25-12
                                          • 1248

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by jtoler
                                          Youre also not taking into account of Wisky and not giving them enough credit regardless of what happens. Bo Ryan is a really, really, good coach, and it helps alot that Wisky has a couple bigs who can stand at the FT line, turn and shoot, pass, fake a pass, they have good ball movement, bigs who can shoot, and great 3 pt shooting, all things that it takes to beat a zone, also they run a motion offense. He can run flex, flare options, they have the players to beat it, although it doesnt mean it will happen.
                                          Exactly what I've been saying. It may not happen, but it is very possible
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                                          • Martinr
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 07-08-13
                                            • 529

                                            #22
                                            Damn. I was all over Baylor until I saw this thread.
                                            If they win this clown's gonna be rubbing everyone's face in it, gloating about how great he is and how dumb anyone is that had an opposite opinion on the game. Then of course he'll suck everyone in with his next sure thing. If Wiscy win, no worries, he'll just disappear.
                                            No bet for me now, and note to self: don't open threads with titles like this one.
                                            Enjoy the game.
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                                            • supercam1
                                              SBR Hustler
                                              • 11-07-13
                                              • 81

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by qb1789
                                              Baylor. They're on a roll and are 3.5 dogs. It's really laughable. They'll shut down wiscys chuckers with their length and the rest will be history. Same story as the Doug McDermott game. They're very similar minus kaminski and his ability to stretch the floor but Isaiah Awesome (real name austin for the ppl who can't understand a nickname) is still superior. They have too much blackness and talent for the unathletic badgers.

                                              Your all welcome for my return I will have another amazing play for you Friday. If you don't remember me check the posts was the hottest poster last CBB season. Adios
                                              UCLA -4.5 you're welcome
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                                              • supercam1
                                                SBR Hustler
                                                • 11-07-13
                                                • 81

                                                #24
                                                Oh and your Baylor pick is wrong....Wisconsin will win this game, sorry
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                                                • pokerwhiz90
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 10-02-10
                                                  • 2618

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by qb1789
                                                  An educated response so refreshing! It will be no blowout that's for sure. Wiscy almost never gets blown out because of their style of play. Bo Ryan will have them ready but the talent discrepancy is just too much to overlook. Wisconsin a big strength is the two bigs who can step out and hit 3s. That's exactly what baylor can defend well with Jefferson/Austin. Gl on your bet too
                                                  Yeah these aren't the easiest games to cap tbh, both these teams are hot, one team is immensely well coached while the other team is immensely talented, both teams can score at will, and both teams have size and can score inside and outside, both teams can play at a fast and slow pace

                                                  the faster the game is, the more baylor has an advantage, the slower, the more advantage goes to wisconsin's ability to swing side to side and pass for the easy 3 - theres going to be several lead changes, overall though in the end i see the game slowing down and playing into wisconsin's hands because lets face it, kids get nervous at the end and nobody wants to blow the game, including the coaches
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                                                  • V4Value
                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                    • 09-01-13
                                                    • 368

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by pokerwhiz90
                                                    Yeah these aren't the easiest games to cap tbh, both these teams are hot, one team is immensely well coached while the other team is immensely talented, both teams can score at will, and both teams have size and can score inside and outside, both teams can play at a fast and slow pace

                                                    the faster the game is, the more baylor has an advantage, the slower, the more advantage goes to wisconsin's ability to swing side to side and pass for the easy 3 - theres going to be several lead changes, overall though in the end i see the game slowing down and playing into wisconsin's hands because lets face it, kids get nervous at the end and nobody wants to blow the game, including the coaches
                                                    Baylor & the points
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                                                    • V4Value
                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                      • 09-01-13
                                                      • 368

                                                      #27
                                                      I see people siding on both Baylor & Wisky, correct me if I'm wrong, I see this as a very tight game with several lead changes. IMO, the best value here is Baylor and buying some points. I see how a well coached Wisky team will play baylor's zone, but Baylor's players athletic abilities will be getting better second chances and more hustle plays. I don't see Baylor shooting 60% from the field again but if they show up like that, they will win. If not, it will come down to the last minute of the game?
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                                                      • pokerwhiz90
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 10-02-10
                                                        • 2618

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by V4Value
                                                        I see people siding on both Baylor & Wisky, correct me if I'm wrong, I see this as a very tight game with several lead changes. IMO, the best value here is Baylor and buying some points. I see how a well coached Wisky team will play baylor's zone, but Baylor's players athletic abilities will be getting better second chances and more hustle plays. I don't see Baylor shooting 60% from the field again but if they show up like that, they will win. If not, it will come down to the last minute of the game?
                                                        the thing is baylor's coaching is crap, i agree with everything you said but if ball control and managing time of possession is going to be key in a tight game, wiscy has the edge
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                                                        • qb1789
                                                          SBR Sharp
                                                          • 12-22-12
                                                          • 497

                                                          #29
                                                          How is their coaching crap? They've been to 2 elite 8s and won an NIT championship the last 3 years. Pretty damn good if you ask me. I will take a proven tourney winner in Drew over the regular season king Bo Ryan.
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                                                          • robbeduagain
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 08-25-12
                                                            • 1248

                                                            #30
                                                            I've got agree with qb here. I've never understood why Drew gets little credit for what he's done. Baylor was in shambles when he took over. I think Ryan is better, but Drew definitely isn't crap
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                                                            • jtoler
                                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                              • 12-17-13
                                                              • 30967

                                                              #31
                                                              He never gets the best out of his teams or players, he's had some talented big men none of them developed, they should have beaten Kentucky 2 years ago but he didnt know what to utilize on offense, all he had to do that game is run high lows and they win, he did that only on about 2 possessions in 2nd half that game and let Calipari, who did nothing special, outcoach him.
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                                                              • qb1789
                                                                SBR Sharp
                                                                • 12-22-12
                                                                • 497

                                                                #32
                                                                What your missing is the part where he got them to the elite 8 in the first place. It's baylor they were nothing without him.

                                                                So when he wins tonight against big bad bo will that change your opinion?
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                                                                • jtoler
                                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                  • 12-17-13
                                                                  • 30967

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Who cares if its Baylor, if you watched that game, and Id bet you didnt, then you would have seen his ineptness.
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                                                                  • las8
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 09-09-09
                                                                    • 1262

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Dude saying Baylor D is not better than the Ducks clearly has not seen a single one of Baylor's last 5 games after then went basically all 1-3-1. I will recap. Pooped on Oklahoma for 30 mins, up 18 OK made a run as BU softened up. Pooped on Texas basically the whole game after almost blowing it the day before. Held ISU to 2 points for almost 10 min, but gave away their lead to only a couple at half. Then died 2H as they were playing their 4th in 4. I will ad no one in the Big 12 has ever won the title going through that. Held a hot Neb team to 16 the first half. And then they ABSOLUTELY SHAT on only the #1 team in offensive efficiency. Dougy Buckets had 3 at half, yes he was in early foul trouble, but he ended at 15 for the game zero 3s. His second lowest total of the season. Baylor has been playing for their lives for 9 games I would say. I would not be surprised if we see a repeat of Sunday for Wisconsin. But more likely it will be a battle that I am excited to watch. Gasser and Jackson are going to be their only shot of breaking the zone.
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                                                                    • jtoler
                                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                      • 12-17-13
                                                                      • 30967

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by las8
                                                                      Dude saying Baylor D is not better than the Ducks clearly has not seen a single one of Baylor's last 5 games after then went basically all 1-3-1. I will recap. Pooped on Oklahoma for 30 mins, up 18 OK made a run as BU softened up. Pooped on Texas basically the whole game after almost blowing it the day before. Held ISU to 2 points for almost 10 min, but gave away their lead to only a couple at half. Then died 2H as they were playing their 4th in 4. I will ad no one in the Big 12 has ever won the title going through that. Held a hot Neb team to 16 the first half. And then they ABSOLUTELY SHAT on only the #1 team in offensive efficiency. Dougy Buckets had 3 at half, yes he was in early foul trouble, but he ended at 15 for the game zero 3s. His second lowest total of the season. Baylor has been playing for their lives for 9 games I would say. I would not be surprised if we see a repeat of Sunday for Wisconsin. But more likely it will be a battle that I am excited to watch. Gasser and Jackson are going to be their only shot of breaking the zone.
                                                                      Who is Creighton, I said before tourney to sell on that team. Again what about their D makes them better? Youre just going by 5 games? Im going by a season.
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