Thats what you call a bad beat

THam12 · 03-26-14, 11:08 PM

Lol unreal. Unreal. Un fuckin real

thecutter · 03-26-14, 11:10 PM

It would be unreal except point shaving is very real. Can't take it

No coincidences · 03-26-14, 11:12 PM

Originally posted by thecutter

It would be unreal except point shaving is very real. Can't take it

This. You think this is a coincidence? Hell no.

thetitanlb · 03-26-14, 11:14 PM

I was on Fresno. I seriously feel like breaking everything around me right now. First Indianna now this?

survive · 03-26-14, 11:15 PM

Point shaving like you read about

IWANTMONEY · 03-26-14, 11:15 PM

Im glad theres only a few days left of this stuff - won a bit overall, but Im emptied out.

thecutter · 03-26-14, 11:20 PM

Originally posted by IWANTMONEY

Im glad theres only a few days left of this stuff - won a bit overall, but Im emptied out.

You said it bro...I feel like I can't quit now there's a week left. But I'll probably lose every bet until then

bob6199 · 03-26-14, 11:21 PM

lol if you can't take the bad beats don't bet there is no point shaving, you do realize they are college kids and make mistakes right

IWANTMONEY · 03-26-14, 11:24 PM

Originally posted by bob6199

lol if you can't take the bad beats don't bet there is no point shaving, you do realize they are college kids and make mistakes right

You're a heads-up smart guy Bob, there's no denying that fact.

thecutter · 03-26-14, 11:24 PM

Originally posted by bob6199

lol if you can't take the bad beats don't bet there is no point shaving, you do realize they are college kids and make mistakes right

Lol I guess you can just ignore all the proven evidence through investigation and testimony by people who actually took part in it. I can take a bad beat they happen all the time but you just made yourself sound like a fool

GiveMeaBJ · 03-26-14, 11:25 PM

Originally posted by bob6199

lol if you can't take the bad beats don't bet there is no point shaving, you do realize they are college kids and make mistakes right

There is definitely point shaving. Not saying this game was a shave. Had Fresno -7...didn't see the play. If they were shaving they probably wouldn't have left it up to a bonehead play like this.

survive · 03-26-14, 11:36 PM

Originally posted by bob6199

lol if you can't take the bad beats don't bet there is no point shaving, you do realize they are college kids and make mistakes right

And college kids are also the easiest sport to manipulate for shaving because, you know, they don't get paid to play...

GiveMeaBJ · 03-26-14, 11:39 PM

Originally posted by survive

And college kids are also the easiest sport to manipulate for shaving because, you know, they don't get paid to play...

There was a great article about a kid who did this about 5 years ago. Article was in ESPN.

bob6199 · 03-26-14, 11:51 PM

Originally posted by GiveMeaBJ

There was a great article about a kid who did this about 5 years ago. Article was in ESPN.

NCB: Point-shaving more common than you think

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/10545391/former-assistant-tj-brown-brandon-johnson-center-university-san-diego-point-shaving-scandal-espn-magazine

In ESPN The Magazine's Conspiracy Issue, Shaun Assael writes that to Brandon Johnson, it seemed harmless enough: A quick way to make some money, help out a friend and quietly stick it to the university he'd come to loathe. The the FBI got involved.

i'm friends with some college athletes mostly bball and football, most of them of no idea what a spread is let alone know what the spread is before a game. i just love how ppl lose a close bet and they automatically think point shaving. There is a reason the spread was at -7 and there is a reason spreads are where they are...

GiveMeaBJ · 03-26-14, 11:55 PM

Originally posted by bob6199

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bask...-espn-magazine

i'm friends with some college athletes mostly bball and football, most of them of no idea what a spread is let alone know what the spread is before a game. i just love how ppl lose a close bet and they automatically think point shaving. There is a reason the spread was at -7 and there is a reason spreads are where they are...

No I agree it's an overused thing. Any bad beat is rigged. But it definitely does happen. One guy is all it takes. One bad guy gets in the er of a young kid with no NBA future late in his career and has to make his team win by only 7 instead of 9. To think some of these poor kids wouldn't do it is silly. This is probably not a fix though as it puts them at risk doing it with 8 seconds left for no reason.

IWANTMONEY · 03-27-14, 12:09 AM

Originally posted by bob6199

There is a reason the spread was at -7 and there is a reason spreads are where they are...

lol No point betting then Bob is there because, taking your logic through, its all preordained by the "god of spreads". The point is it was a ridiculous play that screwed the spread with seconds left when the other team had stopped playing, and lost me (and others) a fair amount of money. And in a basketball betting forum I think its reasonable to be able to comment on a bad beat without getting a lecture on the obvious.
I dont think the total was shaved - the play was too moronic, but of course there are crooks in college basketball like there are in all walks of life. To think otherwise is rather silly and you strike me as very intelligent individual, Bob.

jpot34 · 03-27-14, 12:23 AM

Originally posted by bob6199

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bask...-espn-magazine

i'm friends with some college athletes mostly bball and football, most of them of no idea what a spread is let alone know what the spread is before a game. i just love how ppl lose a close bet and they automatically think point shaving. There is a reason the spread was at -7 and there is a reason spreads are where they are...

LOL! You ever heard of gag rules? Why would they talk when they're treated like kings behind the scenes. You ain't too smart if you think CBB is on the level.

jtoler · 03-27-14, 12:37 AM

Didnt see it but not sure why one would wait till 5 seconds left on something that may not happen.

jpot34 · 03-27-14, 01:54 AM

Originally posted by jtoler

Didnt see it but not sure why one would wait till 5 seconds left on something that may not happen.

Until the zebras say the game is over, it ain't over. 5 seconds or .1 seconds doesn't matter as long as the final score reflects what is needed.

jtoler · 03-27-14, 02:19 AM

Originally posted by jpot34

Until the zebras say the game is over, it ain't over. 5 seconds or .1 seconds doesn't matter as long as the final score reflects what is needed.

if you want to believe it was fixed ok.

bob6199 · 03-27-14, 02:39 AM

Originally posted by jtoler

if you want to believe it was fixed ok.

idiots, just let them say it was fixed if it makes feel better because they played a bad bet, just let them feel good about themselves

bob6199 · 03-27-14, 02:41 AM

Originally posted by IWANTMONEY

lol No point betting then Bob is there because, taking your logic through, its all preordained by the "god of spreads". The point is it was a ridiculous play that screwed the spread with seconds left when the other team had stopped playing, and lost me (and others) a fair amount of money. And in a basketball betting forum I think its reasonable to be able to comment on a bad beat without getting a lecture on the obvious.
I dont think the total was shaved - the play was too moronic, but of course there are crooks in college basketball like there are in all walks of life. To think otherwise is rather silly and you strike me as very intelligent individual, Bob.

you can say it was a bad beat, to bitch and blame point shaving for your own dumb play isn't, if u get a bad beat just get over it and move on, no need to bitch on a forum where people like to get info, clogs the forum of useful stuff. If you want to blame why the bet lost blame the fact Fresno gave up 16-2 Offensive rebounds, w/o those extra possession this game would have been a double digit win and hence to need for you guys to say it was "Point shaving"

robbeduagain · 03-27-14, 07:15 AM

Originally posted by IWANTMONEY

lol No point betting then Bob is there because, taking your logic through, its all preordained by the "god of spreads". The point is it was a ridiculous play that screwed the spread with seconds left when the other team had stopped playing, and lost me (and others) a fair amount of money. And in a basketball betting forum I think its reasonable to be able to comment on a bad beat without getting a lecture on the obvious.
I dont think the total was shaved - the play was too moronic, but of course there are crooks in college basketball like there are in all walks of life. To think otherwise is rather silly and you strike me as very intelligent individual, Bob.

I had the over 133.5 in that game

IWANTMONEY · 03-27-14, 09:03 AM

Originally posted by bob6199

you can say it was a bad beat, to bitch and blame point shaving for your own dumb play isn't,"

I didnt blame point shaving, if you actually read the post you quoted, you would have read that personally I specifically ruled out point shaving. Clearly, you arent as smart as I thought you are Bob. Every possession there is a mistake, to allow points or have them prevented. We know this.
Now, please stop clogging up this thread with inane blindingly obvious drivel and go hunt out the posters you want to tail - the title ruled out this was a tipping thread so you had no need to open it.
Thanks for taking part in it though Bob - now run along.