Awful call to begin with. Bad reaction by Boeheim but give him 1 T and 'cuse a chance. Nope. Instead they throw him out and end the game. Fk these refs.
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Fair was out of bounds when he caught the ball.Comment -
Point is that ref felt like he was shown up, and ended the game by himself. The refs should NEVER completely decide a game's outcome. Yet these duke fans cry foul that the refs are against them every game (ahem UNC game the other night)Comment -
Had cuse +5.5 ... that was retarded
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Dude cmon, you cant blame the ref for throwing him out, he went overboard, doesnt matter at what moment he did it in the game, he has nobody but to blame but himself, he knew he was gonna get thrown out, you should have made a thread titled why cant a 65+ yr old man control his emotions, the game wasnt over until he did what he did.Comment -
Coach K blows up ALL the time. Not to the extent that Boeheim did there, but he was justified at least. They should have huddled up, given him a T and kept the game within reason. They single handedly ended it with their opinion. Fk that noise
EDIT: and by K blowing up, I mean I have personally seen him rush onto the court screaming red-faced at some pussy official who T's him up maybe half the time! Let alone tossing him.Comment -
serves em right cuse sucksComment -
A) I'm not a Duke fan. B) The fact that you think I must be a Duke fan to say the refs made the proper call there proves you're the one wearing the fukking goggles. You sound like all those Obama voters who think anyone critical of how he does things must be some Republican tea-bagger. It was an obvious call. Thinking otherwise just makes you sound like a pathetic loser that has nightmares about getting raped by the Blue Devil mascot. C) I actually went to UNC mother fukker. Did you? No probably not. You're just another bandwagon Walmart fan who has nothing to live for but UNC basketball and hating Duke for reasons he doesn't even understand. Take your head out of your ass and show some pride in yourself.No more of that talk, or I'll put the leeches on you.Comment -
Madcap says he went to UNC but conveniently leaves out that his undergrad degree is from NC STATE.
LOL, in most seasons that basically makes him a dookie because he has NOTHING to root for in either major sport so his enemy's enemy becomes his friend. He hates UNC but hey, congrats on getting into school there at some point. Everybody in the state knows that NOBODY who can get get into UNC for undergrad goes to State, and most of them stay bitter about it forever.
Congrats Madcap, you are hereby appointed the poster boy for the NC State inferiority complex.
And this begs the question, why in the post above did you say you went to UNC and leave out that you are actually a state fan who went to NC State?? Typical woofie douche.
Anyway, have a good night woofie. Like I said, good luck in the NIT. You can always pull for Duke in the real tourney and against UNC, since you won't have any rooting interest where your actual loyalty lies.Comment -
The charge call was subjective. It was at least close. I've heard most of the talking heads says it was a charge. I can deal with that call. The first T was bullshit. No good ref wants a game to be decided other than on the court, and the little pussy let his ego decide the game rather than the players. Any ref ought to be able to put up with some jawing after a controversial call late that could decide the game. And the second T call was TOTAL bullshit, no need for that whatsoever, it completely eliminated any chance of the players deciding the game on the court. He's a wuss and mark this thread now because he won't be a ref in this league next year.
Oh yeah, and Duke NEVER gets any calls, right............Comment -
Considering your incoherent use of English, if it weren't for the fact that it's been shown UNC gives out degrees to kids who can't read I'd highly doubt you went to UNC either. Of course, they only give out those degrees to the athletes. So you must have been a member of the general population. But as you pointed out, it's pretty damned hard to get into school there, meaning it's highly unlikely anyone with such a dedicated commitment to grammatical failure as you would have been admitted. Which would make you a bandwagon Walmart fan too. So now I've got two bandwagon Walmart UNC fans trying to correct me, the guy who actually went to UNC. How unsurprising.
(and FYI: I was accepted to UNC for undergrad. Davidson/Duke/Wake too. State was cheaper than Davidson/Duke/Wake and had the far better program than UNC in my field of study, so I went to State. My future brother in law got his BA from UNC and then got his PHD at NCSU. You clearly have no idea how things actually work in academia, so please stop pretending like you have any connection or understanding of the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill beyond a sad infatuation with its basketball team. )No more of that talk, or I'll put the leeches on you.Comment -
Why's that? John Swofford going to fire him because he made a call that helped Duke?
Boheim ran jumping up and down all the way to half court flailing his arms around screaming "bullshit" at the top of his lungs. He WANTED to get a technical. Even the Syracuse fans will tell you that. Calling that foul bullshit just demonstrates your hated of all things Duke has robbed you of all ability to remain objective.No more of that talk, or I'll put the leeches on you.Comment -
State was cheaper than UNC? By what, a hundred bucks a semester? No, State is not cheaper than UNC in any meaningful way unless you can get a scholarship to State and can't get one to UNC. I'm UNC undergrad, Wake grad school, but I freely admit I only went to Wake because I partied too much and could not get in to UNC for grad school.
Sorry about my message board grammar, I'm a rook you know and being a message board hero doesn't really mean as much to me as it does to you. I get the feeling there are a lot of grammar police on this board, everyone seems so darn sophisticated, I'll try and be more careful. Night woofie. Good luck in the NIT.Comment -
Had nothing on the gm myself and certainly not a Duke fan. Call could have gone either way we see a lot worse calls made than that several times in most gms played. Only reason it's a big deal is because of when it happened bottom line.Comment -
had the under i was happy, its a regular season game no one will care tomorrowComment -
Fair enough. If I am wearing the stripes, I don't make the first T call because I want the game decided on the court. It takes more of a man to eat the whistle in that situation than blow it and this ref blew it. Fair enough. Within his rights. Not what I would have done but within the realm of his discretion. The second T call was totally unnecessary and what really pissed me off. No need for two T's for the same blow up. That's just power trip.Comment -
Boeheim most overrated coach in college history.
All that talent he's had in almost 40 years and needed Melo to bail him out for his one and only title, that's sad.
One title in 38 years and people think that head case is a god.
Too funnyComment -
No more of that talk, or I'll put the leeches on you.Comment -
I had the Under so was happy. OT would have killed my playComment -
Jim "the maker of men" Calhoun, has made a lot more wiith a lot less than Boeheim.
Like a few others, I had no wager what so ever on this game, my lean was Duke, but there were better wagering options at 7pm and 9 pm, plus that and that was one of those games you don't need action on to watch wire to wire just as fan not as a gambler.
I am UConn guy, I loathe Cuse and Duke equally, hate them for different reasons, but hate them equally.
Having said that, Boeheim was crying, bitching and moaning like a nanci-boi all game, he deserved that double 't'.
Regarding that play, I looked at those ten seconds (Fair's drive to the hoop) about 30 times in a row just now, it seems Duke's #5 guys feet were set for a nano second before Fair drove into him, Hood was shuffling his feet during the whole time Fair was driving to the hoop though, and I think even though his feet were planted as Fair put the ball up, I don't think Hoods feet were set long enough.
After looking at it all morning, the proper call would have been, no call, play on, Orange hoop, Duke inbuound.
Now listen up sports fans.
Bill Buckner's error on Mookie Wilson's ground ball did not cost the Red Sox as much as the events leading up to that ground ball. like Stanley's wild pitch, or Gedman etc. etc. etc.
That questionable charge call did not cost Syracuse the game as much as they fundamentally suicked all game.
Orange really need to look into the term 'box out' on defense.
They gave Duke a crap load of points Duke would not have gotten if Syracuse swithced off on defense, or boxed out on shots taken.....
It's like Syracuse missed class the day Boeheim taught it pre season. For a team that is supposed to be great on defense, they were anything but yesterday, and don't give me "they held Duke to 66" bullshit, they could have held Duke to 55.
Casei points, Orange allowed soft as ice cream Plumlee, (how man fukking Plumlee's are there anyway for the love of God?? Does Mrs Plumlee have any other boys she's got in HS?) anyway Orange let Plumlee in for an easy put back.
Where was the highly ranked Syracuse boxing out Duke's Parker?
The kid Parker got that offensive rebound unattested, I don't and never really played basketball, what do they call that, "long side rebouind" or something, regardless of what you call it, Syracuse was out of position to rebound.
I can name four or five other instances
4 things cost Syracuse yesterday, and the calls by the refs against them is not one of them, Orange got calls their way also.
1) Boeheim's big mouth and first grade temper tantrums cost Syracuse.
2) As mentioned above, lack of fundamentals cost Syracuse at least 10 to 12 points. That's how many points they gave up by not being in position on defense, not boxing out their man, etc. etc.
Duke had, what? Sixteen offensive rebounds.?
Where is that highly respected Orange defense, who the phuck gives allows 16 rebounds on offense. INEXCUSABLE !
Hey Boeheim, bitch to your kids about lack of defense, don't cry about how the zebras are screwing you, if your kids did what they were supposed to on the court, your team is not in a position to get so called 'screwed' by the refs.
3) Syracuse's zone defense
Duke solved the Orange zone yesterday.
Duke figured out how to beat the zone by getting a pivot man in the paint, and get a shorty bucket inside.
Duke beat them inside, and Syrcause did nothing to adjust.
it was not a surprise, Duke did that all game, Boeheim and his assistants did nothing to adjust.
Stat line says 33 Duke points came from an insidet the paint possession.
Poor coaching. Period.
Boeheim is an overrated, not so great coach. Period.
4) Syracuse's shot selection.
Instead of maybe going inside after realizing they couldn't shoot from the outside yesterday, instead of continuing to shoot from the outside the paint, they may have scored more than sixty.
Case in point, Ennis made one shot from outside the paint, and bricked nine.
Nice shooting there slick, one for ten from the outside ain't getting it done pal.
This is why I say Boeheim is overrated, his team did not play fundamental ball yesterday, and he and his staff, which he is the boss of, failed to make in game adjustments.
This is why Syrcause lost, not some charge/block call.Comment -
Can you two clowns take your petty squabble somewhere else? I read this thread to see what intelligent fans thought of the charge call and I have to read through posts about two yahoos defending their shitty ass alma maters.Comment -
I don't like either team but this real easy..Right or wrong it was to be expected and far less aggregious than the crap cuse got away w the 1st gm, from the flopping to that bs no call on hood's dunk which handed cuse the gm so ya really have no right to complain now... Ultimately who cares, they both got calls at home in games that don't mean anything in the end..Comment -
a) Always shop for the best number, sound advice.
b) Buying the hook is not a good idea. Bad idea, not good advice.
Only time to even think about it is in football on a 3.5 line, or a 6.5 line, and even then it's not a good idea.
If it was a good idea would every book know to man offer it?
Ask yourself, how many times did you buy the hook and it paid off?
How many times did it not pay off?
Different books charge different prices, but as a rule of thumb, you are taking a 11 to 10 wager, making it a 12 to 10 wager, some books 13 to 10 wager, long story short, many more times than not, the 1/2 is never a factor.Comment
