Saturday hoops discussion/plays/whatever

[2daBank]

not gonna have time to go over the card till later, going out with the wife and some friends for drinks and maybe some food ...thought id get the thread started tho so later on i could start responding to everyone that has some thoughts on games ready to post..there was 1 that caught my eye im playing now..

slu-3.5.. these guys are just some straight beast right now and their gm travels as well as anyones so ill lay the short number against a la sale team that simply hasnt played good basketball consistently and whose offense i rate as god awful against one of the best defensive teams in the country..slu was a no brainer the other day at st joes and even tho la salle does at least take care of the rock their weak offense only managed 54 last year in this gm and if anything i would say they have regressed since that gm,maybe it close for a while but i think in the end this another square but comfortable win for the bilikens ..

be back later tonight and will bang out the whole card and have my totals done to be ready to fire away at them in morning..

[KRIT]

i'll check in after all these nerd teams get done playing today.

[hustlehard617]

Why is Iowa -5 vs Michigan

[Matty Mo]

RE: Iowa line... See Michigan St @ Iowa and Ohio St @ Iowa. Enough said. You should know what to bet.

[2daBank]

Why is Iowa -5 vs Michigan

IMO if u think it should be less you rate mich too high.. Again I'll have a better answer later, just posting from my phone and havnt really capped them yet but I think Iowa or nothing w/o a doubt..

[BiffTFinancial]

Agree on SLU, may join you there. Also agree on Iowa - Hawkeyes, over or nothing there

Leans for tomorrow
UVA -7 (love this team)
Northwestern -2' (Nebraska road woes continue)
Cleveland State +1
Mississippi State +13 (fade UK on the road until they hire a coach)
Iowa -5
Duke -10'/1H (why would Duke be looking ahead to UNC when UNC is so terrible?)
Utah State -2 (Boise should struggle after blowing lead vs SDSU at home)
VCU -2' (bad match-up for St. Joe's team that struggles with TOs)

[THam12]

Agree on SLU, may join you there. Also agree on Iowa - Hawkeyes, over or nothing there

Leans for tomorrow
UVA -7
Northwestern -2'
Cleveland State +1
Mississippi State +13
Iowa -5
Duke -10'
VCU -2'

like northwestern and virginia first glance as well

[THam12]

i like florida tomorrow as well

[theforce]

Agree on SLU, may join you there. Also agree on Iowa - Hawkeyes, over or nothing there

Leans for tomorrow
UVA -7 (love this team)
Northwestern -2' (Nebraska road woes continue)
Cleveland State +1
Mississippi State +13 (fade UK on the road until they hire a coach)
Iowa -5
Duke -10'/1H (why would Duke be looking ahead to UNC when UNC is so terrible?)
Utah State -2 (Boise should struggle after blowing lead vs SDSU at home)
VCU -2' (bad match-up for St. Joe's team that struggles with TOs)

You fukkin serious?

[2daBank]

Agree on SLU, may join you there. Also agree on Iowa - Hawkeyes, over or nothing there

Leans for tomorrow
UVA -7 (love this team)
Northwestern -2' (Nebraska road woes continue)
Cleveland State +1
Mississippi State +13 (fade UK on the road until they hire a coach)
Iowa -5
Duke -10'/1H (why would Duke be looking ahead to UNC when UNC is so terrible?)
Utah State -2 (Boise should struggle after blowing lead vs SDSU at home)
VCU -2' (bad match-up for St. Joe's team that struggles with TOs)

Still not home so hard to comment on a lot of them but vcu def makes sense..

[KRIT]

Agreed on VCU. St joes can't take care of the rock, press will give them all kinds of trouble.

Iowa has to win one of these big home games right?

I haven't seen much of SMU, but line is pretty telling.

[BiffTFinancial]

You fukkin serious?

Absolutely. I grew up a UNC fan and Duke will fkn dismantle them. Duke team is well-coached and focused. Look-ahead angle requires a team to feel as the look-ahead game is some sort of statement game, which requires the opposition to be in the same class as the team looking ahead or a motivation because of revenge. UNC isn't even close to being in Duke's class right now in terms of quality of play. Duke has won 7 of 9 vs Heels over last four years, and beaten them soundly in 4 of those 7. With so many freshman and sophomores, a lot of Duke players don't even know what it's like to lose to Carolina. They certainly aren't worried about 5-4 UNC in the ACC standings (Cuse, UVA, Pitt are their competition for the conference, and they would perhaps look ahead to Clemson if they were to play them again after being blown out in Littlejohn, but they only play them once regular season this year). Duke-UNC rivalry means a lot more to the Duke fans than the Duke players right now given that Duke has so routinely overmatched UNC in recent years.

No way are Duke players going to have one eye on UNC on Saturday night in Chestnut Hill. "Terrible" might be overstating it a bit, but UNC undoubtedly doesn't belong in Duke's class right now, and if anyone is looking ahead to Wednesday on Saturday, it would be the Heels. Like UK, UNC also should consider hiring a coach.

[THam12]

My leans are definitely:
UNC
UVA -7
FLorida -14.5
Northwestern if it goes to about -2

these are teams that have been very

[theforce]

I too am a die hard Tar Heel fan. I don't give a shit how bad either team is, the other one always looks forward to playing this game. You don't have the greatest CBB rivalry in the country if the teams don't give a shit.

And my biggest play of the day will be fading Virginia Tech. I couldn't tell you the last time they covered a game.

[shayman23]

I definitely would not touch Michigan. Not saying this will happen but when you look at there upcoming schedule this could be one of those look ahead games and the fans in Iowa are going to be electric. I also see coach McCaffrey making sure his boys are ready to rebound this time around. Overall Michigan is very below average when it comes to rebounding the basketball and Iowa is an elite rebounding team. I see McCaffrey not allowing his players to be lazy on the boards. Also see Iowa in desperation mode realizing how important this is. You can not lose 3 games at home and be considered a top 25 team. Marble is going to be coming out to play and hes going to be ready to show Michigan what they really missed out on in his final game against his home town team. I will be taking Iowa ML when it comes out.

[shayman23]

I also will be going SMU I see the public getting killed with Michigan and Cinci. I think the grinder game against UConn will make it tough for them to adjust to SMU and will lead to a slow start. SMU has won 7 of their last 8 games by 12 or more and they are at home. They only have had issues this year on the road. I am thinking 1st half moneyline on SMU.

My picks are going to be
Iowa ML
1st half SMU
UNC -1
Ohio St-12
Duke ML
Belmont ML

My gut also is telling me
Texas wins straight up at Kansas St
Portland St will cover +4@Montana St

[sportsguy04]

cincy +3 at smu

[sportsguy04]

also cincy under.... this game will be 59-57 uc.

[sportsguy04]

murray state -6 at 3-22 tennessee state

[shayman23]

I really feel Cincinnati is going to start slow coming off that tough game against uconn. The game is definitely one of those wait and see second half lines. Both teams are very above average defensively. I just think seeing how well smu has played at home and how efficient they are from the field shooting close to 50 percent for the season. Cincinnati will have a let down

[swag1982]

Any thoughts on Dayton +3 vs Bonnie's
Can tcu +19 cover possible first half play here

[SilverTongueFox]

Strong leans for me tomorrow:
Cleveland St +1
Towson -3.5
Georgia 1st half
Murray St -6

Also like MTSU, Kansas St, Utah St, FAU

Good luck boyz

[shayman23]

Anyone have any opinion on these

My picks are going to be*
Iowa ML
1st half SMU
UNC -1
Ohio St-12*
Duke ML
Belmont ML

My gut also is telling me
Texas wins straight up at Kansas St*
Portland St will cover +4@Montana St
Murray St ML

[mikmik]

Rutgers +4.5 and ml

[THam12]

is javan felix going to play????

[THam12]

just locked in UVA -6. I think that line goes up tomorrow.

[KRIT]

Haven't looked at all the games, but for the early games I like Notre Dame, Nebraska, Pitt and Florida.

Can someone give me some insight into the Cincy-SMU game, as well as the Zags/Memphis? Leaning SMU and Memphis. Bearcats are scary good this year, but they're coming off that emotional win against UCONN from two nights ago, and SMU has been playing great all year (haven't really seen them play much this year though). I just think Memphis is too athletic for Zags. Anytime Zags hit the road out of conference against a big team they're usually a good fade.

[chalk46]

just locked in UVA -6. I think that line goes up tomorrow.

What book? That's a steal

[chalk46]

Morehead State+7 & ML for .5
UVA-7
Texas+4
Miami under if it's >119.5
Tennessee -14 but will wait in hopes of it dropping.
Fwiw, the SBR darlin for the month of January, IPFW is getting a bunch tomorrow on the road. They were a solid cover team for about 5-6 weeks. Starting to slide a bit lately and had an awful outing just a few nights ago. Still a lot of points at NDSU who looked almost equally as bad at home on that same night against the worst team in the Summit. I'll probably roll with em if the 12.5 holds up. 100% of public on them as of 230a.m. though.

[oldscho0led]

If you're betting Iowa, bet it at ML...Not on the spread.

[chalk46]

If you're betting Iowa, bet it at ML...Not on the spread.

Michigan is scary because of their ability bang in the 3 ball.

[BiffTFinancial]

I too am a die hard Tar Heel fan. I don't give a shit how bad either team is, the other one always looks forward to playing this game. You don't have the greatest CBB rivalry in the country if the teams don't give a shit.

And my biggest play of the day will be fading Virginia Tech. I couldn't tell you the last time they covered a game.

That's not at all what I'm saying. Of course Duke will look forward to playing UNC Wednesday, but that doesn't mean that you can count on them to underperform vs BC on Saturday because they play UNC on Wednesday. No matter what, there will never be a meeting of these two teams where either team doesn't give a shit (in no small part because the coaches and fans will always care intensely). That said, I'm sure that you would not argue that UNC is in Duke's class right now (though they are playing a lot better now than they were in early January, no doubt).

I was a diehard fan long ago, pre-Roy Williams (hard to root for a coach who doesn't realize that Kansas is clowning him with a zone defense). I drove down to Chapel Hill to watch the 1993 national title game (Webber timeout) on Franklin Street with our head cheerleader. It was an absolute blast. We tried to sleep in her car for a few hours in the middle of the night before driving back to VA but some cops made us go to a homeless shelter. She got to stay in her own room. I slept on the floor in a room full of homeless guys smoking the worst-smelling weed i've ever experienced. Ah, memories!

My dad is still a diehard Heels fan, and I tell him when not to watch. I told him not to waste his time watching Heels vs Cuse or UVA. He would never skip a Carolina-Duke game, though. I don't think that UNC will get embarrassed the way that they did vs Cuse or Hoos (in no small part because game is in Chapel Hill). I think it will be Duke by multiple possessions, probably by around 6-8 after FTs. But i feel strongly that Duke will not be looking ahead vs BC tonight. If someone has an angle and wants to play BC (and their absolute shit defense) tonight or at least avoid Duke, no argument here, but i hope that they have something better and more thoughtful than Duke looking ahead to UNC because i simply don't see it.

[CBBPhenom]

Don't bet Texas, Kansas st at home revenging 3 pt loss at Texas. Kansas st beat Oklahoma recently at home by 6. See this panning out the same.

[BiffTFinancial]

Upon further review, passing on Northwestern. Have Mildcats winning by around 4, but the game barely making it over 110. Under may be worth a look but asking Mildcats to lay points to a men's team is probably a bridge too far.

[grease lightnin]

Been busy as hell at work, fellas. I know you've been like "where are grease's plays?" lol kidding

gotta continue putting these floors down in my house today so I skimmed and decided on some plays on lines that looked attractive and a homer teaser.

teased UVA -3 with md pk

duke -10.5 2x (haven't played anything twice since Duke went to Pitt)

vcu -3