The Right Angle Sports Conspiracy Theory -__-

[hkarmy_kenny]

RAS Conspiracy Theory

Right Angle Sports releases the play of the day to be Fresno +4 vs. Colorado -4.

Public bets the shit out of Fresno, line drops significantly. RAS maybe wagers for a middle.

Colorado ends up going from -4 favorite to +1 underdog.

RAS places huge wager on Colorado +1.

Colorado ends up winning 50-43. RAS wins big and is running a straight racket fading their own plays.

I've seen this scenario play out in a few of their plays recently...There is NO WAY that a renowned handicapping agency could come to the conclusion that +4 Fresno vs. Colorado was the best play today.

They were very confident in Colorado winning and the real gamble was to profit off a manipulated line.

Please discuss

[rm18]

there were like 5 games today, why not?

[bane]

Love a conspiracy. Never paid any attention to RAS. Only learned what they are a month or so ago. They went 46-24 on posted plays in NCAAB in Nov. Dec they're 6-11. Fade material.
Maybe they do drive lines and bet the other side. No rule they can't make "unposted" plays. I'm inclined to continue ignoring them.

Do folks actually pay for their picks? RAS Record

[NittanyLionsFan]

lol @ calling RAS fade material. RAS is the best. The absolute best. In the world. I GUARANTEE you're not actually fading him so just quit talking.

[Catchn_Picks]

[bane]

lol @ calling RAS fade material. RAS is the best. The absolute best. In the world. I GUARANTEE you're not actually fading him so just quit talking.

Never paid any attention to RAS.... Dec they're 6-11. Fade material.
... I'm inclined to continue ignoring them.

Didn't even know it was a "him". Thought it was an organization of some kind. Anyway, very astute observation... I'm not fading or following RAS. (I thought "ignoring" implied as much.) Though, if I'd been fading 'em in Dec. I'd have made even more $$.

[lancer713]

If it is a conspiracy, why wouldn't they have a play every night, instead of taking 3 nights off this week? Why not just pick a game and drive the line in a direction that favors them? How does this benefit their service in any way?

[isotopes]

Who cares? If you liked Colorado yesterday than it was a present that RAS was on the other side. You got a much better line. I actually have gotten a few nice lines on winners because RAS was on the other side.

If you cap your own games and you like a side and RAS moves the line in your favor jump on it.

[uncynd]

I think you're wrong.


RAS doesn't expect to be more then a 60% favorite often; meaning they LOSE about 40% of the time.


RAS likely DID play on Colorado +1 AS WELL, since that is a huge pre-game middle.


Hope this helps.

[hkarmy_kenny]

If it is a conspiracy, why wouldn't they have a play every night, instead of taking 3 nights off this week? Why not just pick a game and drive the line in a direction that favors them? How does this benefit their service in any way?

Makes sense actually

[TPowell]

LOL don't tell the rooster riders that. They live and breathe RAS. Not sure they know where half the schools they bet are

[chunk]

Don't know about ras, but this actually was happening many years ago with the Computer Boys outfit. It led to litigation if I remember correctly....never did hear how it came out.

[Louisvillekid1]

Here's the problem,

THE PUBLIC DOESN'T MOVE LINES...

[chunk]

Money and/or information moves lines.

[hkarmy_kenny]

Here's the problem,

THE PUBLIC DOESN'T MOVE LINES...

Respectively.

[PaperTrail07]

$$$$$$$$$$$$ is the only this that changes lines...information can, but its with respect to the $...they know where it would have went

[PaperTrail07]

ex...Brady out...line moves...b/c brady is out..no because one side will flood with bets....it $ or anticipation of $

[uncynd]

Here's the problem,

THE PUBLIC DOESN'T MOVE LINES...

Money moves lines, money does not discriminate last I checked.

[Louisvillekid1]

Ras moves lines bigtime, and make big $$$ of their service, so It's not crazy to think they hit middles from time to time, but I really could less either way.

[uncynd]

Ras moves lines because when they release bets people who paid for their picks bet....ppl whgo pay for RAS typically bet more then your average 'public' bettor.


You guys would be crazy to think they don't play for these middles....

[Louisvillekid1]

Money moves lines, money does not discriminate last I checked.

Ok pal, keep believing that...

It's where the $$$ is coming from, Sharps/Syndicates/info.

Books don't fear the public,

[uncynd]

Don't know about ras, but this actually was happening many years ago with the Computer Boys outfit. It led to litigation if I remember correctly....never did hear how it came out.

Do you have a link to this? Would love to read that I didn't hear this.

[uncynd]

Ok pal, keep believing that...

It's where the $$$ is coming from, Sharps/Syndicates/info.

Books don't fear the public,

If you don't take the time to think then you end up like this gentleman.

[Louisvillekid1]

I'm not even going to sit here type several pages about line movement, I'll just continue to beat them.

Good Luck Sir

[Louisvillekid1]

I'll just add take a look at a live consensus, and watch where the money is coming in from, when the line moves...

[uncynd]

Are you the kind of person who looks at consensus's and thinks everyone bets the same amount?

[uncynd]

Money is king man. If you seriously think about it you will realize how we are both saying exactly the same thing.


might take 500 public bets to make up for the variance on one sharp bet.

[chunk]

Do you have a link to this? Would love to read that I didn't hear this.

No link. It had to be back in the 80's. I can't even remember whether it was from a credible source, but I know that it was going around for quite a while. They were pretty well known back then.

[uncynd]

No link. It had to be back in the 80's. I can't even remember whether it was from a credible source, but I know that it was going around for quite a while. They were pretty well known back then.

LOL wow man that's crazy, any idea if they were found guilty?

[Louisvillekid1]

Money is king man. If you seriously think about it you will realize how we are both saying exactly the same thing.


might take 500 public bets to make up for the variance on one sharp bet.

Now you sound like you are agreeing w/ me...

[uncynd]

I've been agreeing with you the entire time man...I just wish you seen it from a cash perspective and...

Public does move lines (sometimes).

[chunk]

Now if someone can predict with a high probability where these prices are going, then you'd be on to something. I've been around a long time and I'd guess that when I think that it's wise to wait, I'm no better than 50/50. I find that I'm best off hitting openers, but these days you have to be quicker than you used to be even with them.

[chunk]

LOL wow man that's crazy, any idea if they were found guilty?

Don't know. My guess is that a suit like that wouldn't go far anyway. It's like touts suing for infringement.

[uncynd]

Don't know. My guess is that a suit like that wouldn't go far anyway. It's like touts suing for infringement.

hah well said.