John Morrison 2012-13 NBA Thread

**knugen** · 01-14-13, 12:26 AM

Originally posted by Wallco99

Both of you are waaay off. I will tally it soon, but it's not that high. I am at +42 units with my 7/5, but I have been playing 1-7-5 for a while with a lot of (A) bet wins, and also won an 8.1 unit (B) bet on v1 Miami the other day, along with my (C) bet v2 Miami win that no one else in the system played because the added v1 plays aren't part of the 7/5, even though they should be since they are official JM v1 plays.

So wallco when a situation like that happened cant you just add that in here so we dont miss any more units?

**KennyM10** · 01-14-13, 12:55 AM

Originally posted by Wallco99

My system is no way affiliated with JM, the King of dirt bags. I don't think the sports books are on to me quite yet, and pretty confident that they will never be.

Just the opposite wallco, the books will always welcome a guy that bets -1500 favorites and .loses than the next day says no one bet it anyways. As long as u suggest all these -500 favorites and worse

they know u r clueless and will always have open arms

**KennyM10** · 01-14-13, 01:02 AM

Originally posted by knugen

Damn, what happening with the system...

Lol this says it all

**Wallco99** · 01-14-13, 01:28 AM

Originally posted by knugen

So wallco when a situation like that happened cant you just add that in here so we dont miss any more units?

I mentioned it twice last week that there was an extra v1 play on Miami. stevex also had it in his post I believe.

**knugen** · 01-14-13, 02:14 AM

Yes i know you did and thanks for that, i had that play but you said that this scenario happened several times already this season and i dont think anyone mentioned it then.. So i and more people in hete would really appreciate if you can keep on mention it when it happens again

**Wallco99** · 01-14-13, 05:45 AM

Originally posted by knugen

Yes i know you did and thanks for that, i had that play but you said that this scenario happened several times already this season and i dont think anyone mentioned it then.. So i and more people in hete would really appreciate if you can keep on mention it when it happens again

I said it happened many times in my back tests, not this season. I don't remember if it happened before Miami or not. I know there were a few chances, but I think Miami was the first actual play, and it won (B).

**Wallco99** · 01-14-13, 06:01 AM

Wallco NBA Chase 110
2012-13 System to date: 37-0 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +37.00 units (fin. series)
Current open series: 1 (-1.10 units)

v1 Plays
(A) 22-16
(B) 9-6
(C) 6-0
(D) 0-0

Games for (1/14/13):
#38 Cleveland @ Sacramento (M/L) (B) (10:35 pm EST)
#39 Minnesota (+7) @ Dallas (A) (8:35 pm EST)

We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-½) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day, if the lines change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post.
System rules and backtest can be found in post #219.

**Andy Vix** · 01-14-13, 07:51 AM

Guys,

I haven't been able to follow this year, too much going on with poker etc, however, I want to put down some cheese on the 7/5, just wondering if it is safe to enter half way through a season like this.... thoughts/rants/gossip

Cheers

**hagball52** · 01-14-13, 09:41 AM

What's really nice is when a JM (C) bet loses it automatically becomes a chase 110 play which I believe makes it an incredibly strong play. I'm pretty sure it has never lost when this scenario comes up. Just wondering Wallco if you have ant stats on this?

**CrazyCarl** · 01-14-13, 09:52 AM

Originally posted by Andy Vix

Guys,

I haven't been able to follow this year, too much going on with poker etc, however, I want to put down some cheese on the 7/5, just wondering if it is safe to enter half way through a season like this.... thoughts/rants/gossip

Cheers

If the bets are positive expectation, that should be true regardless of whether you played the previous ones or not.

**MARCUS** · 01-14-13, 10:29 AM

Originally posted by hagball52

I feel extremely lucky tonight. I didn't trust Minnesota so i teased them with the Knicks and Lakers. Lucky for me I won. Had the T wolves +18.5. Go figure.

...teasers,yet another way 2 win.

**Nino7** · 01-14-13, 10:32 AM

Originally posted by CrazyCarl

If the bets are positive expectation, that should be true regardless of whether you played the previous ones or not.

I tend to think the same way but in an other hand if that was true,increasing your wagger size along the season as your bankroll grow would be the right way to play and i know for having experimented it thats its not.Its a complexe topic imo.

**alexknyc** · 01-14-13, 10:33 AM

Originally posted by CrazyCarl

If the bets are positive expectation, that should be true regardless of whether you played the previous ones or not.

Given an unlimited bankroll, you'd be absolutely correct.

However, what I'm hearing is whether he should join now because a loss may be coming tht he has no cushion built up for.

My advice is to reduce your limit size so you can absorb a loss or two before your first win. Come to think of it, I'd say that was good advice even if you're starting from the beginning.

If you're worried about surviving an immediate loss, your unit size is too high.

**CrazyCarl** · 01-14-13, 10:48 AM

Originally posted by alexknyc

However, what I'm hearing is whether he should join now because a loss may be coming tht he has no cushion built up for.

With this logic, you shouldn't bet any plays, because at the start of the season you have no cushion built up.

**thelimit0310** · 01-14-13, 11:45 AM

7/5 Plays JAN 13

Minnesota +12.5 vs San Antonio - Bet 2

7/5 Plays JAN 14

No Plays

Results:
Bet 1: 11-11
Bet 2: 6-5
Utah 11/2
Portland 11/25
Boston 12/14
Houston 1/9
Minnesota 1/9

Two series starting tomorrow 1/15 with a possible third pending

**doin** · 01-14-13, 12:17 PM

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**overcome** · 01-14-13, 01:02 PM

why isnt sacramento a play on the 7/5 system today?

**thelimit0310** · 01-14-13, 01:15 PM

Originally posted by overcome

why isnt sacramento a play on the 7/5 system today?

What makes you think they would be? They aren't even on a road trip...

**knugen** · 01-14-13, 01:16 PM

Sacramento havent been a JM play sinse 1/1, why should it be a JM play?

**samrock67** · 01-14-13, 01:17 PM

Originally posted by overcome

why isnt sacramento a play on the 7/5 system today?

Because the 7/5 system is based off the JM schedule, not Wallco's Chase System.

The next 7/5 bets should be tomorrow night with Bet 1s on Indiana and New Orleans, and possibly the Clippers based on how they fare tonight against the Grizz.

**overcome** · 01-14-13, 01:38 PM

Originally posted by samrock67

Because the 7/5 system is based off the JM schedule, not Wallco's Chase System.

The next 7/5 bets should be tomorrow night with Bet 1s on Indiana and New Orleans, and possibly the Clippers based on how they fare tonight against the Grizz.

ohhh thought they were based on the wallco. whooops!

**CrazyCarl** · 01-14-13, 02:23 PM

Wallco posts yet another system. Personally, I think we should use a couple different threads, but whatever.

**petters72** · 01-14-13, 03:37 PM

Dammit...are there any 7/5 plays or not tonight the 15:th???????????????????

**petters72** · 01-14-13, 03:37 PM

14:th...hrmmmm

**Mrscofield25** · 01-14-13, 03:46 PM

Originally posted by petters72

14:th...hrmmmm

Post #2151. No there isn't any 7/5 plays tonight.

Pffffffffttttttt.... Thelimit... You nedd to change the dates in your post. I think it confuses people.

**MARCUS** · 01-14-13, 04:02 PM

fyi,

..i bet the cav's +2 (1st 1/4) cashes,after that 17 point ass'whippin from the lakers last night..bol

**thelimit0310** · 01-14-13, 04:13 PM

Fixed the dates on the play post

**Mrscofield25** · 01-14-13, 04:19 PM

Originally posted by thelimit0310

Fixed the dates on the play post

Good boooyyy.

**MLefty** · 01-14-13, 04:36 PM

Hi guys I am new today and this is my first post on the site. I am not completely new to sports betting but I am new to following a system. I think I want to start following the Wallco system that I keep reading about in this thread. I understand the just of it and the A-B-C concept. The 7-5 concept makes sense to me. One thing I am sort of confused on is units... I know I can set my own price for a unit, but how do I know how many units to bet on each game?

**Wallco99** · 01-14-13, 05:18 PM

Originally posted by CrazyCarl

Wallco posts yet another system. Personally, I think we should use a couple different threads, but whatever.

Yes, let's please start this debate again.

**Want2Win** · 01-14-13, 05:22 PM

I don't mind Wallco's and The Limit on the same thread.

**Wallco99** · 01-14-13, 05:22 PM

Originally posted by MLefty

Hi guys I am new today and this is my first post on the site. I am not completely new to sports betting but I am new to following a system. I think I want to start following the Wallco system that I keep reading about in this thread. I understand the just of it and the A-B-C concept. The 7-5 concept makes sense to me. One thing I am sort of confused on is units... I know I can set my own price for a unit, but how do I know how many units to bet on each game?

For starters, don't confuse the two systems. Mine is an A-B-C-D chase, JM system is A-B-C. Read posts #107, #140, #149, #1489, and #219 before asking any more questions.

**Mrscofield25** · 01-14-13, 05:51 PM

May I make a suggestion? What if 1 person had the job to post the rules to the different systems and post numbers, everyday? Just like Stevex, Thelimit and Wallco, post their play posts? Maybe it could stop all the confusion there is everyday.

**stevex** · 01-14-13, 05:56 PM

JM Traditional

1/14/2013

V1

Current chase record W/OUT buying points: 25-1-1
Current chase record WITH buying 3 points: 26-1
Current series pending: 1 (New Orleans B Bet)

V2

Current chase record W/OUT buying point: 13-2
Current chase record WITH buying 3 points: 13-2
Current series pending: 0

V3

Current chase record W/OUT buying points: 30-2-4
Current chase record WITH buying 3 points: 34-2
Current series pending: 2 (Indiana B Bet)

1. LA Clippers A Bet +3 @ Memphis Grizzlies
LA Clippers A Bet (with buying 3 points) +6 @ Memphis Grizzlies

**CrazyCarl** · 01-14-13, 06:15 PM

Originally posted by Wallco99

Yes, let's please start this debate again.

Haha.

May I make a suggestion? What if 1 person had the job to post the rules to the different systems and post numbers, everyday? Just like Stevex, Thelimit and Wallco, post their play posts? Maybe it could stop all the confusion there is everyday.

To me this is just as annoying as people not looking for answers themselves. This thread is amittedly confusing for a newcomer with 3 (or two if you consider 7/5 and JM the same.. whatever) different systems going on in one thread, when some of them aren't familiar with systems in general and 7/5 using an abnormal betting structure, with little explanation in the OP.

IMO, the best solution would be to combine everything clearly in post 1, so that you can easily send people there if they were really too lazy to read even the OP, and they don't have to go searching through several pages which they probably wouldn't do.