Letting you know what's up w/ UFC 149

[Wanna Bet On It?]

LOL.

Loser spends all of his time meme'ing, slandering & shooping instead of actually discussing MMA bets. He's the pungent stench that lingers in the dumpster even after you take the trash out. I realize I just gave him about 2 days worth of "work" with this post... And I don't give a single f*ck with him on block. It's really sad that this is his calling in life.

[Beelzebubzy]

Are wannabet and Fosho in the same posse?

[Vaughany]

Are wannabet and Fosho in the same posse?

Yeah, they call themselves "The Chuckle Brothers"....

[DublinMeUp]

There's strength in numbers

[Beelzebubzy]

Nunyas Mathletes vs the Doogie Howser Short bus

[DeFactoCrippler]

Are wannabet and Fosho in the same posse?

They're the co-founders of the "I got pissed on by defactocrippler support group" (IGPOBDFCSG). Been holding hands and weathering the storm together since I got here.

Me = Bobby Southworth

Nate Quarry = Fosho

Chris Leebman = Wannabet

[Vaughany]

lol Forrest was classic in tht! Fat Florian as well...check out his belly at end when he's sat down!

[fosho14]

LOL.

Loser spends all of his time meme'ing, slandering & shooping instead of actually discussing MMA bets. He's the pungent stench that lingers in the dumpster even after you take the trash out. I realize I just gave him about 2 days worth of "work" with this post... And I don't give a single f*ck with him on block. It's really sad that this is his calling in life.

hahaha, yup! A non-bettor, who has zero insight or analysis on anything related to mma yet decides to spend all of his spare time on a mma-betting forum crafting 800 word essays about why he hates his cyber enemies from morning till night. Since he doesn't have a job or a purpose in life, the creep is probably going to interpret these messages as 5 more days of "hard work", where he'll sit behind his screen for hours upon end hacking away at his keyboard with more non-mma related slander, thinking he's winning some kind of psychological battle lol. I'd be hard pressed to think of anything more sad, and find it amusing how much effort and time this dead-beat puts into his many internet wars while we live our lives, looking down from above, and laughing at his pathetic excuse for an existence. Poor little bastard probably had a rough and troubled childhood.

[DeFactoCrippler]

hahaha, yup! A non-bettor, who has zero insight or analysis on anything related to mma yet decides to spend all of his spare time on a mma-betting forum crafting 800 word essays about why he hates his cyber enemies from morning till night. Since he doesn't have a job or a purpose in life, the creep is probably going to interpret these messages as 5 more days of "hard work", where he'll sit behind his screen for hours upon end hacking away at his keyboard with more non-mma related content, thinking he's winning some sort of meaningful battle lol. I'd be hard pressed to think of anything more sad, and find it amusing how much effort and time this dead-beat puts into his many internet wars while we live our lives, looking down from above, and laughing at his pathetic excuse for an existence.

Lol, if you look at your "latest posts' the entire page is about me. In fact, 80% of the posts you made were rants about me and begging the mods to ban me.

[fosho14]

Wow, didn't take long for you to respond to that, somehow I'm not surprised... Do you just constantly stare at sbr.com refreshing it every couple minutes waiting for me to say something all day long? When's the last time you crawled out of your shit-hole and seen the day-light you pathological freak.

Goodbye psycho, happy stalking.

[DeFactoCrippler]

Wow, didn't take long for you to respond to that, somehow I'm not surprised... Do you just constantly stare at sbr.com refreshing it every couple minutes waiting for me to say something all day long? When's the last time you crawled out of your shit-hole and seen the day-light you pathological freak.

Goodbye psycho, happy stalking.

lol, you are the one who keeps coming back and directing 80% (now 100%) of your posts at me. Nobody wants you or wannabet here. If you guys want to talk about me, do it on twitter or something. The only reason you are here is to stalk me, lol.

Go away. I've said that before to you haven't I? Funny thing for a stalker to say.

[DirtyX]

Please, don't go away, both of you ^^^. This shit is way too entertaining, I almost feel like I should have to pay to see this.

[DublinMeUp]

75% of the time Defacto wins this 100% of the time

[DeFactoCrippler]

[DirtyX]

[fosho14]

No, people consider you dumb as defactus was saying because you tried to look so cool and know-it-all and teach us a lesson. Am i insane for having a play on Jordan? **** off. Best advise is take it to the chin and learn...dont come back trying to sell us anything.

Sorry for trying to help you escape your play on Jordan. Whether you tailed Gabe or not, I was just trying to help anyone listening to Gabe's terrible advice/breakdown of the fight prevent themselves from automatically losing money if they were actually contemplating putting money on Jordan like he was recommending. I supported this stance through a mix of facts, reasoning and my own analysis that basically summarized that Jordan simply sucked and was worse in every area not to mention had beat nobody. kongo was on a higher level based on his skill set and the quality of competition he'd fought/defeated. This was much too big of a step up in opposition for Jordan. Hopefully others were intelligent enough to listen, and avoid any play on Jordan but I guess you were too proud to realize that you had made a foolish decision and were finding yourself being educated by the bau5. Might wanna respectfully accept the advice next time and leave your ego behind

[fosho14]

So tell me Fosho....how you see the fight evolving? how you see Conga win? honest question (i have 300 on Jordan ATM)

How I see Conga win?

Should've listened to my breakdown, I gave you many reasons why Conga win and why to bet against Jordan. Instead, you opted to ignore these reasons, call me a "know it all" and then not reply with any reasons against my points or justification for betting Jordan. O well, karma's a bitch isn't it.

[DublinMeUp]

Sorry for trying to help you escape your play on Jordan. Whether you tailed Gabe or not, I was just trying to help anyone listening to Gabe's terrible advice/breakdown of the fight prevent themselves from automatically losing money if they were actually contemplating putting money on Jordan like he was recommending. I supported this stance through a mix of facts, reasoning and my own analysis that basically summarized that Jordan simply sucked and was worse in every area not to mention had beat nobody. kongo was on a higher level based on his skill set and the quality of competition he'd fought/defeated. This was much too big of a step up in opposition for Jordan. Hopefully others were intelligent enough to listen, and avoid any play on Jordan but I guess you were too proud to realize that you had made a foolish decision and were finding yourself being educated by the bau5. Might wanna respectfully accept the advice next time and leave your ego behind

How I see Conga win?

Should've listened to my breakdown, I gave you many reasons why Conga win and why to bet against Jordan. Instead, you opted to ignore these reasons, call me a "know it all" and then not reply with any reasons against my points or justification for betting Jordan. O well, karma's a bitch isn't it.

Yeah, you should have listened to the guy who recommended fading Jordan but wouldn't actually fade him because he was unsure. Solid advice.

[Grabaka]

Sorry for trying to help you escape your play on Jordan. Whether you tailed Gabe or not, I was just trying to help anyone listening to Gabe's terrible advice/breakdown of the fight prevent themselves from automatically losing money if they were actually contemplating putting money on Jordan like he was recommending. I supported this stance through a mix of facts, reasoning and my own analysis that basically summarized that Jordan simply sucked and was worse in every area not to mention had beat nobody. kongo was on a higher level based on his skill set and the quality of competition he'd fought/defeated. This was much too big of a step up in opposition for Jordan. Hopefully others were intelligent enough to listen, and avoid any play on Jordan but I guess you were too proud to realize that you had made a foolish decision and were finding yourself being educated by the bau5. Might wanna respectfully accept the advice next time and leave your ego behind

LOL what a punk.
I welcome any good advice and im very respectful to people but you basically called anyone who had a play on Jordan stupid and you just said "automatically losing money" yet you didnt play Conga at all.
Now you will come back saying that you werent as sure on Conga and how could you trust him as you like to pick your spots. Then the +EV bets thang will come out. V will try to explain you and you will show how you cant understand shit. Then you will rant and come back to step 1. I meaaaan.
Might wanna respectfully give your advice next time or shut the hell up kid.

[gabe]

Sorry for trying to help you escape your play on Jordan. Whether you tailed Gabe or not, I was just trying to help anyone listening to Gabe's terrible advice/breakdown of the fight prevent themselves from automatically losing money if they were actually contemplating putting money on Jordan like he was recommending. I supported this stance through a mix of facts, reasoning and my own analysis that basically summarized that Jordan simply sucked and was worse in every area not to mention had beat nobody. kongo was on a higher level based on his skill set and the quality of competition he'd fought/defeated. This was much too big of a step up in opposition for Jordan. Hopefully others were intelligent enough to listen, and avoid any play on Jordan but I guess you were too proud to realize that you had made a foolish decision and were finding yourself being educated by the bau5. Might wanna respectfully accept the advice next time and leave your ego behind

Oh yeah, because you were right. Kongo was so dominant in that fight.

Jordan lost because he didn't fight smart. In previous fights, he attacks and always looks for the finish. In this fight, all he did is try to grind and wrestle. That's not his M.O. I don't understand what he was thinking... but in any case, a pick on either fighter in that fight was the wrong pick, that was certainly one to stay away from, and you or someone else said so, so you guys were right.

[Wanna Bet On It?]

Sorry for trying to help you escape your play on Jordan. Whether you tailed Gabe or not, I was just trying to help anyone listening to Gabe's terrible advice/breakdown of the fight prevent themselves from automatically losing money if they were actually contemplating putting money on Jordan like he was recommending. I supported this stance through a mix of facts, reasoning and my own analysis that basically summarized that Jordan simply sucked and was worse in every area not to mention had beat nobody. kongo was on a higher level based on his skill set and the quality of competition he'd fought/defeated. This was much too big of a step up in opposition for Jordan. Hopefully others were intelligent enough to listen, and avoid any play on Jordan but I guess you were too proud to realize that you had made a foolish decision and were finding yourself being educated by the bau5. Might wanna respectfully accept the advice next time and leave your ego behind

And is this is exactly why I don't bother sharing insight on SBR anymore. I can't help you if you're not willing to help yourself." Just save your breath and look down smugly when you get laughed at for betting $500 on Kongo and look down on the masses smugly when it cashes over & over again.

LMFAO at Gabe saying that there was no +EV on a Kongo bet at +odds. Kongo wins that fight easily at least 67% of the time, busted shoulders or not. The -200 opener on Kongo was completely justified and to the sharps that bet him down to +110, thanks!!! Especially the kind chap on Betfair that took my BIDS on Kongo at even or better; I will treat your money well...

[Vaughany]

And is this is exactly why I don't bother sharing insight on SBR anymore. I can't help you if you're not willing to help yourself." Just save your breath and look down smugly when you get laughed at for betting $500 on Kongo and look down on the masses smugly when it cashes over & over again.

LMFAO at Gabe saying that there was no +EV on a Kongo bet at +odds. Kongo wins that fight easily at least 67% of the time, busted shoulders or not. The -200 opener on Kongo was completely justified and to the sharps that bet him down to +110, thanks!!! Especially the kind chap on Betfair that took my BIDS on Kongo at even or better; I will treat your money well...

As I pointed out on Sherdog, you went and hedged out of some of your play on Kongo live in play so you couldnt been tht confident in him!

[DublinMeUp]

And is this is exactly why I don't bother sharing insight on SBR anymore.

Could you branch out to not even logging on to SBR anymore?

[Beelzebubzy]

Why isn't everyone a pro here? Isn't that +Ev?

[Vaughany]

Its funny how he acts like he had some massive coup...smugly thanking some dude on Betfair (who I doubt will ever see tht statement) who accepted his BIDS (no idea why he had to capitilize bids - was he shouting it so the betfair guy might hear him?) on Kongo. I'm sure that same guy treated the money made from your Wanderlei and Brookins plays as well

[Wanna Bet On It?]

As I pointed out on Sherdog, you went and hedged out of some of your play on Kongo live in play so you couldnt been tht confident in him!

And I handed your ass to you on Sherdog and I'll be glad to hand your ass to you on SBR for suggesting me partially hedging my $500 play on Kongo is in any way similar to your strategy to committing to no fighter, arbing out and trying to win 10 squid.

What you admittedly do is bet one guy based on expected line movement then bet the other guy (as the line moves before the fight) so you have no commitment to a fighter and try to pull in a small profit based on line fluctuations. You keep your opener plays to yourself (as you should), capitalize, then tell people once the line has adjusted and say that you'll arb out as the line moves the other way. That strategy may make you a small sum of profit but it is NOT helpful for people to tail. That's the whole point of our argument: as opposed to MMAWisdom, van1ty, myself, Oblivian, etc. you're not +EV to tail. Classy of you to bring it over to Sherdog too. On the completely other spectrum, I took a strong position on Kongo, gave a very descriptive synopsis on the matchup and how I expected the fight would go. I gave tailers confidence to bet on Kongo at EVENS or +odds. The fight went exactly as I capped it. I partially hedged out once the fight became the expected clinch fest with Kongo shutting down Jordan's wrestling because judges are notoriously awful at scoring these fights. Getting Jordan at deep +odds helped to minimize my risk. I still had several hundred riding on Kongo and Not Jordan by finish in a parlay. As I was betting, I was definitely getting hedger's remorse because Kongo was clearly the superior fighter, two blown shoulders or not. I just couldn't trust the atrocious judges which we saw in the very next fight with Boetsch & Lombard. If you even think there's any parallel as to how you try to make a few quid on a fight versus how I bet the Kongo-Jordan fight, you've lost all credibility. I took a clear stand on a fighter and then managed risk. You didn't.

Don't have time to format at in the clinic. Deal with it hater.

[Vaughany]

And I handed your ass to you on Sherdog and I'll be glad to hand your ass to you on SBR for suggesting me partially hedging my $500 play on Kongo is in any way similar to your strategy to committing to no fighter, arbing out and trying to win 10 squid.



Don't have time to format at in the clinic. Deal with it hater.

So u admit you hedged out of your play? So you weren't as confident in Kongo as you are making out then? It's quite simple, dont need to be a Doctor to understand that.

And as I said on sherdog, the fact is I bet on Kongo by decision at +512 (as I stated in the 149 thread) so rather ironically I probably made more on that than you after your hedging!

[PunisherIND]

And I handed your ass to you on Sherdog and I'll be glad to hand your ass to you on SBR for suggesting me partially hedging my $500 play on Kongo is in any way similar to your strategy to committing to no fighter, arbing out and trying to win 10 squid.

i love how he keeps attempting to elicit laughs with the "squid" remarks. he must think people missed it the first 10 times.

[Vaughany]

i love how he keeps attempting to elicit laughs with the "squid" remarks. he must think people missed it the first 10 times.

ha yeah, Im sure Fosho gets a hard-on every time he sees it tho

[DublinMeUp]

Defacto has a point, what self respecting person would continually visit a place where they get shit on by 99% of the people there..

[Wanna Bet On It?]

So u admit you hedged out of your play? So you weren't as confident in Kongo as you are making out then? It's quite simple, dont need to be a Doctor to understand that.

And as I said on sherdog, the fact is I bet on Kongo by decision at +512 (as I stated in the 149 thread) so rather ironically I probably made more on that than you after your hedging!

I was confident in Kongo. Supremely. I gave very clear reasons. I wasn't confident in the judges making the correct decision for a grinding fight as we saw in the very next fight with Lombard.

I don't give a shit about whether or not you bet on Kongo by decision. This whole argument stemmed from me saying that you are not someone to tail. You don't make confident bets that people can get behind. Did you write why a bet on Kongo is justified like I did? Don't think so.

Hey where's your documentation of wins/losses for every event? I was looking for your returns on UFC on Fuel 4 after your Damacio Page fail (loved your confidence in helping tailers get behind that one) and I couldn't find it anywhere in your thread. Nice transparency & accountability there. Every single one of my wins/losses for every event is posted on Sherdog.

Keep hating. The intelligent MMA bettors know who can cap fights confidently versus who curls up in a ball and doesn't provide the strength to pick winnerz for tailers.

[Vaughany]

Don't have time to format at in the clinic.

Im just waiting to see DeFacto's response to this. Im thinking something along the lines of "yeah, in the clinic getting checked for STDs after the numerous poundings up the ass he's taken from Fosho!"

[DublinMeUp]

The intelligent MMA bettors know who can cap fights confidently versus who curls up in a ball and doesn't provide the strength to pick winnerz for tailers.

.............

[Beelzebubzy]

Board is amazing. I can fill three Short buses with our members

[Vaughany]

I was confident in Kongo. Supremely. I gave very clear reasons. I wasn't confident in the judges making the correct decision for a grinding fight as we saw in the very next fight with Lombard.

I don't give a shit about whether or not you bet on Kongo by decision. This whole argument stemmed from me saying that you are not someone to tail. You don't make confident bets that people can get behind. Did you write why a bet on Kongo is justified like I did? Don't think so.

Hey where's your documentation of wins/losses for every event? I was looking for your returns on UFC on Fuel 4 after your Damacio Page fail (loved your confidence in helping tailers get behind that one) and I couldn't find it anywhere in your thread. Nice transparency & accountability there. Every single one of my wins/losses for every event is posted on Sherdog.

Keep hating. The intelligent MMA bettors know who can cap fights confidently versus who curls up in a ball and doesn't provide the strength to pick winnerz for tailers.

Well it was pretty clear, my only posted play was DaMacio for that event so again, dont need to be a Doctor to work out the loss for event was in accordance with loss on Damacio! The funny thing here is your obsession with "tailing". Im not in this to be some internet hero who people tail to make money. I bet on MMA to make money - quite simple. The big difference here is that Im not trying to be or claiming to be some gambling guru . Please find evidence of where I've claimed to be able to make people money like you do with your tragic sherdog signature and twitter page full of $ signs!? Where have I said.."tail me, Im a MMA betting wizard $$$$$"? It's even weirder that you claim to be some hotshot Nurse saving people's lives yet seem to get some greater sense of accomplishment out of being an internet nobody who people can "tail" when betting on MMA! You used the word "tailers" there almost as much as you use "+EV". I'm actually shivering right now from the amount of douche chills going up my spine right now.