Sixers +5 -109 and ml +192

suicidekings · 05-12-12, 03:16 AM

I don't understand the Sixers love. The Celtics rotation is better at every position and the Sixers' two regular season wins over Boston were both when they were rested and Boston was on a B2B. The only factors Philly have going for them are a bit more firepower/energy off the bench, and the tentative injury status of Allen/Pierce. If they can continue to play through their injuries, Philly is going to have a hard time stopping them.

Additionally, Hawes big games were so critical in the Chicago series, however being matched up against Kevin Garnett is a very bad position for him to be in. Without that effective presence inside, let's see how good the Sixers look tomorrow...

It's way too easy to look at the BOS-ATL series and present the idea that the Celtics barely won, while discrediting the Hawks as a worthy opponent, thereby undercutting the Celtics competitiveness. I don't think it's an accurate assessment of the last series, nor is it a useful comparison to make when talking about the current series...

Snowball · 05-12-12, 07:58 AM

[QUOTE=lakerboy;14725576]The bulls were the class of the league that's why philly struggled with them. [QUOTE]

Sixers struggled against the Bulls without Rose AND Noah..
Celtics will have to slow the Sixers down and make a high
shooting %.. Ray Allen may not play and Pierce is about 75%
KG is at 110% and so is Rondo.. C's will need the bench to step up
and Bass also.

Pick'nParlays · 05-12-12, 10:19 AM

Originally posted by lakerboy

Watch the game and see. Then you will get your answer. Nothing anyone says to you will matter.

Go ahead and pound celtics -200 for the series while you are at it. The bulls were the class of the league that's why philly struggled with them.

Bos almost blew game 6 to atl.

The sixers are way more athletic than atlanta and they will out rebound boston. The celtics are old and slow.

Tapfag go fukk yourself.

bol lb

JR007 · 05-12-12, 10:37 AM

"rollin" with you in game 1 LB

gotta remember the sixers played lights out the first part of the "abbreviated" season, they are a very athletic team , erratic at times as well, public perception on Boston, Sixers have value here, (Collins smart player, smart coach) you are going to see a lot of 4,5, 6 type lines going forward, two or three possession type games

raidersfan · 05-12-12, 12:01 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

Sixers come into boston and steal game 1. The sixers are a matchup nightmare for the celtics.

Sixers +5 -109 (8x)
Sixers ML +192 (3x)

Love this bet. Sixers are money today.

BernardMadoff · 05-12-12, 12:05 PM

Not sure about Sixers mentality going into Game 1, think it might be best to take Boston here and then put some on Sixers series after its gone up some. Game 1 is tricky betting on Philly after they just beat Chicago. No doubt I feel Sixers have the pieces to take this series but will they actually show it on the floor is another thing. Boston needs very big games from at least 2 of the Big 4 in every game for them to win against the Sixers IMO and I dont really think thats going to happen.

HoulihansTX · 05-12-12, 01:02 PM

Ray Allen is out, although he has been a non factor for a month.

BernardMadoff · 05-12-12, 01:09 PM

Ray Allen is playing.

Speedy88 · 05-12-12, 01:14 PM

For those of you taking Boston, before you take them ask yourself these questions:

1. Why am I getting Boston at such a low number against an 8 seed when they were just -7 two days ago against the number 4 seed.
2. Why did the line open at -6 and move to -5 with the public pounding BOS spread and ML.
3. Why hasn't this line budged off of -5

chopperocker · 05-12-12, 01:27 PM

PHI is 4-12 SU and 5-10-1 ATS this reg./post-season as Road Dog.

BOS is 15-0 SU and 10-5 ATS as Home Fav since all-star break.

t-wizzle · 05-12-12, 01:27 PM

Originally posted by Speedy88

For those of you taking Boston, before you take them ask yourself these questions:

1. Why am I getting Boston at such a low number against an 8 seed when they were just -7 two days ago against the number 4 seed.
2. Why did the line open at -6 and move to -5 with the public pounding BOS spread and ML.
3. Why hasn't this line budged off of -5

The line is pretty standard given past matchups between these two teams. The public would not have pounded boston until today so it could possibly move to 5.5 although i don't see that happening.

chopperocker · 05-12-12, 01:30 PM

Originally posted by Speedy88

For those of you taking Boston, before you take them ask yourself these questions:

1. Why am I getting Boston at such a low number against an 8 seed when they were just -7 two days ago against the number 4 seed.
2. Why did the line open at -6 and move to -5 with the public pounding BOS spread and ML.
3. Why hasn't this line budged off of -5

how many tickets sold on each side and the total $ amount on each side are 2 entirely different factors.

Speedy88 · 05-12-12, 01:36 PM

Originally posted by chopperocker

how many tickets sold on each side and the total $ amount on each side are 2 entirely different factors.

Very true......and most of the public betting % sites take very small samples from only a few books, but just by looking at this line, I'm sure there will be a ton of action on Boston. Squares are going to eat up BOS -5, and even bigger squares will pay the high juice on the ML.

Anyone notice the ML discrepancies between the PHI/BOS game and DEN/LAL game? There is about a 30 cent discrepancy in the ML's even though the lines are only different by a half point.

chopperocker · 05-12-12, 01:48 PM

Originally posted by Speedy88

Very true......and most of the public betting % sites take very small samples from only a few books, but just by looking at this line, I'm sure there will be a ton of action on Boston. Squares are going to eat up BOS -5, and even bigger squares will pay the high juice on the ML.

Anyone notice the ML discrepancies between the PHI/BOS game and DEN/LAL game? There is about a 30 cent discrepancy in the ML's even though the lines are only different by a half point.

i think theyre might be great value in game 2 with PHI if BOS takes game 1 in dominating form.

Speedy88 · 05-12-12, 01:53 PM

Originally posted by chopperocker

i think theyre might be great value in game 2 with PHI if BOS takes game 1 in dominating form.

I'll take the points w/ Phili. I would feel a whole lot safer getting +5.5, so I'm going to wait and see. Holiday has the length to disrupt Rondo. Unlike Teague and Pargo who sat back and let Rondo pick them apart, Holiday will get into Rondo and pressure him. Iguodala should be able to contain Pierce, especially with his injury. The only guy that the Sixers don't really have an answer for is Garnett. Hopefully Hawes can step up. And the Phili bench has a big advantage over Boston's bench.

BernardMadoff · 05-12-12, 02:23 PM

Originally posted by Speedy88

For those of you taking Boston, before you take them ask yourself these questions:

1. Why am I getting Boston at such a low number against an 8 seed when they were just -7 two days ago against the number 4 seed.
2. Why did the line open at -6 and move to -5 with the public pounding BOS spread and ML.
3. Why hasn't this line budged off of -5

1. Oddsmaker doesnt care about seedings, he knows these teams arnt that far apart, same as with college bball, rankings dont matter when it comes to their lines.

2. People see value in taking Philly, they matchup well with Boston, Boston was only -3.5 on April 8th when they last played.

3. See above.

This game is iffy to me, seems the series is starting too early, both just played in their first series two days ago, wish this was on Sunday and Id be medium on Boston.

BigDofBA · 05-12-12, 02:48 PM

Originally posted by Speedy88

For those of you taking Boston, before you take them ask yourself these questions:

1. Why am I getting Boston at such a low number against an 8 seed when they were just -7 two days ago against the number 4 seed.
2. Why did the line open at -6 and move to -5 with the public pounding BOS spread and ML.

I'm not taking Boston but the line is where it should be.

As for your logic, I'm pretty sure Philly was -3 against the number 1 seed Bulls a few days ago. Everyone on this board was on Philly and they were damn lucky to win by one point. So the bet was a loss when the line was "screaming Philly". "The #8 seed is -3 against the #1 seed." "The line says it all." WRONG!!!!

Lines makers don't care about seeding.

People on this board make bets all of the time because of lines and they lose. See people loading up on Dallas +2 against OKC when OKC was up 3-0 and clearly the better team.

See people loading up on Philly against a depleted Chicago team when Philly was -3.

See people taking the Lakers and then watching them get blown out.

You have to take the line into consideration but it's not the end all be all of betting. So basically, what I'm trying to say is that I think the line is right where it should be. As a result, I don't see a real edge taking either side so i won't play it.

Also, a lot of people were saying Atlanta would beat Boston and that didn't happen despite Boston not having Ray Allen and Rondo for a few games.

Boston may not cover but they will win this series. I don't want to here about how Boston "nearly" blew game 6 when Philly needed to late second free throws to win by one point against a depleted team.

SpreadSniper · 05-12-12, 03:22 PM

Prolly gonna bang the piss outta the 1H... BOL fellas

Hawes UNDER 20.5 pts + rebounds

Speedy88 · 05-12-12, 03:43 PM

Originally posted by BigDofBA

I'm not taking Boston but the line is where it should be.

As for your logic, I'm pretty sure Philly was -3 against the number 1 seed Bulls a few days ago. Everyone on this board was on Philly and they were damn lucky to win by one point. So the bet was a loss when the line was "screaming Philly". "The #8 seed is -3 against the #1 seed." "The line says it all." WRONG!!!!

Lines makers don't care about seeding.

People on this board make bets all of the time because of lines and they lose. See people loading up on Dallas +2 against OKC when OKC was up 3-0 and clearly the better team.

See people loading up on Philly against a depleted Chicago team when Philly was -3.

See people taking the Lakers and then watching them get blown out.

You have to take the line into consideration but it's not the end all be all of betting. So basically, what I'm trying to say is that I think the line is right where it should be. As a result, I don't see a real edge taking either side so i won't play it.

Also, a lot of people were saying Atlanta would beat Boston and that didn't happen despite Boston not having Ray Allen and Rondo for a few games.

Boston may not cover but they will win this series. I don't want to here about how Boston "nearly" blew game 6 when Philly needed to late second free throws to win by one point against a depleted team.

Agreed. I think I just phrased it wrong. Linesmakers obviously don't care about seeding, I just think the average capper will say, "Oh boy, BOS was -7 the other day against ATL, now I can get them at -5 against a lower seeded team, sign me up!" The Hawks were a poor matchup for the Celts, whereas the Sixers matchup great with the Celtics.

I do think the books feel pretty comfortable with Philadelphia covering though. If they didn't, I think this line would be at +5.5 or +6 by now. Still keeping my fingers crossed hoping I can get +5.5.

lakerboy · 05-12-12, 03:53 PM

Don't like the line moving the way it is.

t-wizzle · 05-12-12, 03:55 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

Don't like the line moving the way it is.

I think it's fine. Thought yesterday that it could close at 4.5.

Late money will probably be on philly.

BernardMadoff · 05-12-12, 03:59 PM

Boston 1st half should be ok, putting a little on 1st quarter also.

SpreadSniper · 05-12-12, 03:59 PM

Originally posted by Speedy88

Agreed. I think I just phrased it wrong. Linesmakers obviously don't care about seeding, I just think the average capper will say, "Oh boy, BOS was -7 the other day against ATL, now I can get them at -5 against a lower seeded team, sign me up!" The Hawks were a poor matchup for the Celts, whereas the Sixers matchup great with the Celtics.

I do think the books feel pretty comfortable with Philadelphia covering though. If they didn't, I think this line would be at +5.5 or +6 by now. Still keeping my fingers crossed hoping I can get +5.5.

ask and ye shall recieve

BigDofBA · 05-12-12, 04:05 PM

Originally posted by t-wizzle

Late money will probably be on philly.

Why do you think late money will be coming in on Philly?

I don't think people are giving Boston enough credit here. They are old but they were still one of the best defensive teams in the league. Likewise, it's not like they have to beat an elite team here. This is the 8th seed.

I think Boston covers 5 but I'm not confident enough to play it. Like I've said, I think the line is about right where it should be.

lakerboy · 05-12-12, 05:06 PM

Sixers +2.5 +100 (3x) ( First half)

bleek88 · 05-12-12, 05:07 PM

Lakerboy-auto fade

bleek88 · 05-12-12, 05:07 PM

Him and his air units.

SpreadSniper · 05-12-12, 05:18 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

Sixers +2.5 +100 (3x) ( First half)

wish I could say best of luck....

jmbbarata · 05-12-12, 05:25 PM

Boston ML

t-wizzle · 05-12-12, 05:52 PM

Originally posted by BigDofBA

Why do you think late money will be coming in on Philly?

I don't think people are giving Boston enough credit here. They are old but they were still one of the best defensive teams in the league. Likewise, it's not like they have to beat an elite team here. This is the 8th seed.

I think Boston covers 5 but I'm not confident enough to play it. Like I've said, I think the line is about right where it should be.

Because public money today probably moved the line back to 5.5 ... Sharp money will probably grab the 5.5 again before tip.

BigDofBA · 05-12-12, 06:11 PM

Originally posted by t-wizzle

Because public money today probably moved the line back to 5.5 ... Sharp money will probably grab the 5.5 again before tip.

Interesting.

What makes you think Sharps are on Philly?

dfish · 05-12-12, 06:11 PM

Nice thread gents
Valid points all around
Celtics tonite
Sixers "steal " game two
It goes seven
My two cents.
GL

BigDofBA · 05-12-12, 06:23 PM

I think Philly will win a game in Boston but it won't matter. Boston will win the series.

As for tonight, I don't feel confident in either side but if I had to play something it would be Boston.

GL to everyone on Philly.

Speedy88 · 05-12-12, 06:25 PM

Just read a quote from Doc: "Philly is Atlanta on Steroids"

My book is holding Sixers at +5, hoping they bump them up to +5.5 before tip.

Also seems like Doc isn't very happy with the scheduling. Celts will play 4 games in 6 days, games 1-4 will be every other day.

BigDofBA · 05-12-12, 06:37 PM

Originally posted by Speedy88

Just read a quote from Doc: "Philly is Atlanta on Steroids"

My book is holding Sixers at +5, hoping they bump them up to +5.5 before tip.

Also seems like Doc isn't very happy with the scheduling. Celts will play 4 games in 6 days, games 1-4 will be every other day.

Pinnacle
5dimes
Bovada

Alll have +5.5