From the book that the NBA does NOT want you to read....

**blanco** · 04-02-12, 03:00 PM

Yeah. Disgusting

**brainfreeze0** · 04-02-12, 03:14 PM

pretty pitiful stuff there

**CHAZ** · 04-02-12, 03:15 PM

You can buy the book for about $10 at the store.

**hawley** · 04-02-12, 03:37 PM

guy is a piece of shit, who is to know if any of this is true or if he is just trying to ruin other reputations alongside his?

**all4themoney** · 04-02-12, 03:43 PM

How could you trust the integrity of pro sports before you read this? After I read some of the book last year I felt much more informed. As dirty as he was, there's a minimal amount of appreciation for the info he divulged. Just helps us out making more informed decisions. I check the ref assignments before game and run it against this ref stat sheet http://www.sportsbookgurus.com/sport...tatistics.html .

**Masu485** · 04-02-12, 03:48 PM

So much of this still happens. It's quite obvious there's still corruption, but it will never be revealed because the public (including most members on this forum), are too naive to believe it. Sports is like Santa Claus to most people and they'd rather hold on to the story and fantasy than face reality.

**alamo** · 04-02-12, 04:04 PM

Donaghy is as bent as they come. Obviously one bitter cat and out to destroy others. Wouldnt believe half of what was in his book. Pure drivel designed to shock and therefore sell more....

**Punter101** · 04-02-12, 04:08 PM

no one is argueing for Donaghy's case or suggesting that NBA ain't....tainted with slightly.....if their not something is wrong with them or their just naive as masu said

**Frisco** · 04-02-12, 04:19 PM

I would love to see how many units Donaghy was up over is his career lol

**Frisco** · 04-02-12, 04:20 PM

Originally posted by alamo

Donaghy is as bent as they come. Obviously one bitter cat and out to destroy others. Wouldnt believe half of what was in his book. Pure drivel designed to shock and therefore sell more....

Idk a lot of what he was talking about most of us have personally witnessed.

**greenhippo** · 04-02-12, 04:25 PM

Spurs needing a win at home over Denver who was playing for nothing, they win by 26 and the credit should go to crooked officiating? Come on now

**brainfreeze0** · 04-02-12, 04:44 PM

Originally posted by Frisco

I would love to see how many units Donaghy was up over is his career lol

He said on 60 minutes he was up about 100k

**BernardMadoff** · 04-02-12, 05:00 PM

Read this before, not shocking to me, was talking to someone last night that I may go ahead and buy the book.

**brainfreeze0** · 04-02-12, 05:11 PM

I will say this, the fact that he was up so much to the point the mob was using him and the FBI got him is telling. His bets were on games he wasnt involved in just as much which means he had a sure edge in those games. How else could the officials not have been doing what he stated? If he didn't know the officials tendencies he would have no more of an edge than any of us or the mob could have had. To say it was all lies is just naivety and ignorance. The only reason Stern and Co. couldn't be investigated on it was due to the statute of limitations.

**thebestthereis** · 04-02-12, 05:25 PM

Now you will realize the power of inside information, the late breaking variety is key and extremely critical.

**Frisco** · 04-02-12, 05:36 PM

Originally posted by thebestthereis

Now you will realize the power of inside information, the late breaking variety is key and extremely critical.

No such thing as 'fair markets' or no-arbitrage.

**SASH** · 04-02-12, 05:48 PM

i was on the wrong side of it BIGTIME yesterday. What happend yesterday in the new orleans/phoenix game yesterday was literally criminal! Its beyond me how noone is looking into this!! I had a 2 team 6 point tease (-130) risking $455 with new orleans +16 and golden state +16. New orleans lost by 17 and gs covered the 16 so i lost my bet. At one point in the in the new orleans/phoenix game phoenix had attempted 21 free throws compared to new orleans 1!!! How the **** does this happen??!! 21 attempts for one team and 1 attempt for the other??!! Im still fuming mad over this and it will take me some time to get over, not because of the amount that I lost...ive lost much larger bets, but its how the whole thing went down and how that game was oooozing with blatant and utter corruptness!! Like ive said before **** the nba, it stinks. The entire league stinks of foul play, ive seen it with my own two eyes. I try and stay as far away as i can from the nba, hardly ever wager on that \*\*\*\*\*\* league

**Frisco** · 04-02-12, 05:51 PM

That's the nature of the Beast Sash. Nothing we can do about it

**SASH** · 04-02-12, 05:56 PM

^^you follow the nba more than I do Frisco. I dont watch it, I dont keep up with it, hardly ever bet, in fact I hate the nba. So you tell me, have you ever heard of or seen something so skewed as 21 to 1 free throw attempts?? I mean I know some of these games are fixed by the refs/league/whoever but that blatantly???? Just seems way to outrages

**Speedy88** · 04-02-12, 05:59 PM

Read his book last week while on vacation. Definitely a great read, not sure how much of it is true. However, I do remember at one point in the book he says that the FBI forced him to take a polygraph test that further backed up a lot of his accusations about the NBA being fixed.

**Frisco** · 04-02-12, 06:00 PM

Didn't watch the game so hard to comment on whether the foul disparity was justified.

**brainfreeze0** · 04-02-12, 06:02 PM

Originally posted by Speedy88

Read his book last week while on vacation. Definitely a great read, not sure how much of it is true. However, I do remember at one point in the book he says that the FBI forced him to take a polygraph test that further backed up a lot of his accusations about the NBA being fixed.

Did you gain any edge after reading that makes it worth buying?

**Frisco** · 04-02-12, 06:03 PM

Originally posted by Speedy88

Read his book last week while on vacation. Definitely a great read, not sure how much of it is true. However, I do remember at one point in the book he says that the FBI forced him to take a polygraph test that further backed up a lot of his accusations about the NBA being fixed.

Definitely have to question whether an admitted cheating, degenerate gambler would tell the truth in his book. I tend to believe the book consisted of slivers of truths and a lot of personal theories about other refs cheating that he believed to be true... rightly or wrongly.

**SASH** · 04-02-12, 06:05 PM

^^fair enough Frisco, i buy that. Anyone else see the no/phx game that can chime in? Because like Frisco, I didnt see the game either. I was following the box score on my computer

**Speedy88** · 04-02-12, 06:13 PM

Ok I even broke out the book for you SBR people:

When Donaghy was hooked up to the Polygraph, they asked him 4 questions, all which passed:

1. Did Dick Bavetta tell you the NBA put him on certain games throughout the years to make sure a certain team won?
ANSWER: Yes

2. Did Don Vaden make contact and discuss confidentital information with Jeff Van Gundy about the 2005 playoff series?
ANSWER: YES

3. Did Mike Marso tell you that "incorrect calls" were changed on the computer system for certain referees to keep their stats up?
ANSWER: YES

4. Did referees bet on who would call the first foul in an NBA game?
ANSWER: YES

This book was also endorsed by Phil Scala, an FBI agent who was on the case. He wrote the foreward to the book as well. If that means anything. I think that adds some credibility to the book.

**blanco** · 04-02-12, 06:24 PM

I believe most of it. My guess is he was in the ring of the more corrupt refs and they obviously aren't all dong this. It's almost too easy though. why not?

**blanco** · 04-02-12, 06:25 PM

When the commissioner is not only letting it happen but most likely encouraging a lot of the fixing..

**Mikail** · 04-02-12, 06:25 PM

It's a reality that many would rather not know.

**brainfreeze0** · 04-02-12, 06:35 PM

interesting polygraph results

**Masu485** · 04-02-12, 07:35 PM

Exactly what Im' saying. Now that it's been PROVEN to be fixed, still no one wants to listen. The naive clowns just keep saying "Show me proof, show me proof". When you show them proof, they brush it aside because it doesn't coincide with their beliefs.

**br33ze** · 04-03-12, 12:24 PM

Just bought the book and gonna have a read through it this weekend!

**CHAZ** · 04-03-12, 12:40 PM

Good book. Pretty interesting but don't expect any kind of "inside" info lol

**BigBurk** · 04-03-12, 12:49 PM

Pretty interesting! Where can the book be bought exactly?

**CHAZ** · 04-03-12, 01:23 PM

http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/personal-foul-tim-donaghy/1100302557?ean=9780615362632&itm=1&usri=tim+donaghy

Amazon.com

http://www.amazon.com/Personal-Foul-First-Person-Account-Scandal/dp/061536263X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1333477426&sr=8-1