Revenge = Garbage

Mriceyman · 03-29-12, 07:21 PM

Bobcats... hahahaha

brainfreeze0 · 03-29-12, 07:22 PM

and how well do the Bobcats actually match up against other NBA teams. Nobody said magical powers. We're talking teams that have the game to be able to do it.

blanco · 03-29-12, 07:25 PM

Originally posted by Crofta

I am so tired of hearing "revenge" as a factor. Please tell me why this is?

Because historically it has proven to matter

Originally posted by Crofta

Just because you lost the last time you played, does that make you play better the next time?

no, but it means you will try harder, and in the NBA regular season, effort wins games.

Originally posted by Crofta

So, if that is the case, load up on the Bobcats each game as I am sure they will want to exact revenge against everytime that beat them last time, right?

the team has to be capable of winning in the first place

Originally posted by Crofta

Usain Bolt wins most times he runs in a 100m. Doesnt matter how much "revenge" the other seven guys lining up against him want, doesnt mean anything if you are not good enough.

Before you jump in and say "Thats not a 1 on 1 match up"...isnt the theory the same?

stupid comparison, again, the team has to be capable of winning in the first place

Originally posted by Crofta

Isnt it implied that you lost last time so you wil try harder and go better?

yes....

Originally posted by Crofta

Why cant the team that won feel the same way and think they own them and be keen to beat up on them again??

most teams just don't have the same fire to win twice as the team that lost does to even it up

brainfreeze0 · 03-29-12, 07:28 PM

Originally posted by blanco

Because historically it has proven to matter

no, but it means you will try harder, and in the NBA regular season, effort wins games.

the team has to be capable of winning in the first place

stupid comparison, again, the team has to be capable of winning in the first place

yes....

most teams just don't have the same fire to win twice as the team that lost does to even it up

Add to that that not having the talent to win 95% of the time doesnt do much to boost morale as in Charlotte's case.

Crofta · 03-29-12, 07:29 PM

Blanco - Tell me, who constitues if the team is capable of winning in the first place? isnt that subjective?

Are you also saying revenge is only in the regular season? If Mavs play Heat this year in the final, will "revenge" be a factor??

PR9 · 03-29-12, 07:30 PM

sure worked for Hornets last night in GS . And for Toronto vs denver, etc etc

and Memphis recently in LA vs the Fakers, not only covering but winning in a blowout

BigDofBA · 03-29-12, 07:31 PM

Originally posted by Crofta

I am so tired of hearing "revenge" as a factor. Please tell me why this is?

Just because you lost the last time you played, does that make you play better the next time?

I think so.

Originally posted by Crofta

So, if that is the case, load up on the Bobcats each game as I am sure they will want to exact revenge against everytime that beat them last time, right?

The Bobcats don't apply because they are the worst team we have seen in years. Revenge typically occurs when one team is comparable to another and just had a bad game. The Bobcats aren't for revenge. They're just trying to win a game.

Originally posted by Crofta

Usain Bolt wins most times he runs in a 100m. Doesnt matter how much "revenge" the other seven guys lining up against him want, doesnt mean anything if you are not good enough.

That's becuase he is the fastest human on the planet. With NBA teams, there is a lot more parity and almost anyone can win on a given night.

Originally posted by Crofta

Why cant the team that won feel the same way and think they own them and be keen to beat up on them again??

Usually the team that won isn't as hungry as the team that got embarrassed. Do you follow the NBA? It's more of trying to figure out which team is going to show up on any given night. The Magic owned the Knicks and then they were down 40 at one point last night.

Revenge isn't the end all be all but it is definitely a factor that should be considered. There are many examples of a team getting blown out and then winning the next matchup.

BigDofBA · 03-29-12, 07:33 PM

I believe it was Cal State Northridge that lost by like 47 points to Cal Poly and then they won the very next time the teams played which was only like a month a part.

Kentucky lost to Indian. Then they beat them by double digits.

PR9 just gave you examples. It happens. Just because a team won the previous matchup doesn't mean you should automatically favor them the next time.

dRavidC · 03-29-12, 07:37 PM

yeah revenge will be on the minds of the lakers but I just don't think they are playing at the level required at the moment to beat the thunder. though this is the NBA so who knows OKC might have a 20 point lead by the third quarter and end up losing...

brainfreeze0 · 03-29-12, 07:38 PM

Its in the same category as a team thats on fire during the game running and hitting shot after shot vs the team thats running cold. Momentum factor. To say that a cold team should just be on fire isnt going to happen. Its not magic that makes it happen. Its just how the human spirit works.

Crofta · 03-29-12, 07:40 PM

I don't dispute that teams that lose (Even blownout) do bounce back, but for everytime this happens, how many work the other way?

Were games 2,3 and 4 revenge for the Lakers agaisnt the Mavs in the playoffs?

Surely after getting beat up, revenge, motivation etc....would be at an all time high?

We both know they had the talent to compete but the next 3 games the same result.

I appreciate that teams would be hungry not to have the same thing happen but how does that make you shoot better?

Yes, you might try harder.....but so many variables involved to winning a game other than effort (Although without it you are not much chance).

I guess if LA win today, I will cop all the "revenge" threads. Time will tell!!

BernardMadoff · 03-29-12, 07:42 PM

I never bet on the revenge angle unless a much better team got beat by a team.

brainfreeze0 · 03-29-12, 07:42 PM

Because both teams were hungry here. Regular season is far different then the playoffs and finals

BigDofBA · 03-29-12, 07:45 PM

The playoffs are different IMO. Teams come to play every night.

The Mavs were going all out every game ad were simply the better team.

During the regular season teams don't bring that type on intensity every night.

I think OKC will show up but I feel like LA will be the more focused team. Hope I'm wrong.

BernardMadoff · 03-29-12, 07:45 PM

Originally posted by BigDofBA

I believe it was Cal State Northridge that lost by like 47 points to Cal Poly and then they won the very next time the teams played which was only like a month a part.

Kentucky lost to Indian. Then they beat them by double digits.

PR9 just gave you examples. It happens. Just because a team won the previous matchup doesn't mean you should automatically favor them the next time.

I took Northridge in that rematch, things like that are anomalies, and Poly hit alot of 3's in the first half of that first game and broke it open, still was the same old Poly team.