This may sound racist, but

No coincidences · 03-02-12, 11:24 PM

Corbin.
Gentry.
Hollins.
Smart.
Jackson.

Just turrible.

Pauulzcappin · 03-02-12, 11:24 PM

Hollins is not all bad. Agree with the rest though.

No coincidences · 03-02-12, 11:26 PM

Originally posted by Pauulzcappin

Hollins is not all bad. Agree with the rest though.

I'm not impressed with Hollins. Never have been.

Don't get me wrong -- there are horrible white coaches in the league as well.

But this list doesn't do the stereotypes any favors.

t-wizzle · 03-02-12, 11:28 PM

Why are they awful no coin?

Pauulzcappin · 03-02-12, 11:29 PM

Grizzlies should do better in the regular season with all the talent they have. From 1 to 5 they have great talent and a bench player who would start in 2/3 of the league.

MoneyLineDawg · 03-02-12, 11:29 PM

Sharp Thread actually.....But coaching all around is at an all-time low.....I can count on one hand the amount of actual GOOD NBA coaches right now

No coincidences · 03-02-12, 11:29 PM

Originally posted by t-wizzle

Why are they awful no coin?

Have you watched the way they manage games?

Of course, part of the blame is putting these guys in HC positions before they are ready. Not sure you can make an argument that any of these cats were anywhere near "seasoned" enough to be NBA coaches.

No coincidences · 03-02-12, 11:30 PM

Originally posted by MoneyLineDawg

Sharp Thread actually.....But coaching all around is at an all-time low.....I can count on one hand the amount of actual GOOD NBA coaches right now

True.

t-wizzle · 03-02-12, 11:31 PM

Originally posted by No coincidences

Have you watched the way they manage games?

Of course, part of the blame is putting these guys in HC positions before they are ready. Not sure you can make an argument that any of these cats were anywhere near "seasoned" enough to be NBA coaches.

What do you mean by manage games?

MidgetTossers · 03-02-12, 11:32 PM

players make coaches in the association and those coaches dont have much talent bro..guess spolstra and brooks are great coaches right?

No coincidences · 03-02-12, 11:32 PM

Originally posted by t-wizzle

What do you mean by manage games?

What do you mean what do I mean?

Which of these coaches would you disagree with?

Add the two most recent Hawks coaches to the list -- Woodson and Drew. Forgot about them.

No coincidences · 03-02-12, 11:33 PM

Originally posted by MidgetTossers

players make coaches in the association and those coaches dont have much talent bro..guess spolstra and brooks are great coaches right?

Maybe that's why these teams are so erratic -- egomaniac players aren't being "coached" at all.

Maybe that should be the theme to this thread.

t-wizzle · 03-02-12, 11:34 PM

Originally posted by No coincidences

What do you mean what do I mean?

Which of these coaches would you disagree with?

Add the two most recent Hawks coaches to the list -- Woodson and Drew. Forgot about them.

What caused you to make this thread? You thought the jazz were going to lose, right?

It comes down to players, not coaches.

MidgetTossers · 03-02-12, 11:36 PM

Originally posted by No coincidences

Maybe that's why these teams are so erratic -- egomaniac players aren't being "coached" at all.

Maybe that should be the theme to this thread.

well i know i would be a better coach if i had lebron, dwade, bosh, durant, westbrook, etc...

No coincidences · 03-02-12, 11:36 PM

Originally posted by t-wizzle

What caused you to make this thread? You thought the jazz were going to lose, right?

It comes down to players, not coaches.

Again, that's what's wrong with this league right now.

When's the last time a "players" team won an NBA title?

MidgetTossers · 03-02-12, 11:37 PM

on another note..lebron passed the ball again with the game on the line..lol

t-wizzle · 03-02-12, 11:38 PM

Originally posted by No coincidences

Again, that's what's wrong with this league right now.

When's the last time a "players" team won an NBA title?

Not sure what a "players" team is... the Mavs were a better team last year but the Heat had better talent obviously. What is a "players" team?

No coincidences · 03-02-12, 11:38 PM

Originally posted by MidgetTossers

on another note..lebron passed the ball again with the game on the line..lol

Here's a question for all of you: do you think the Heat can win the NBA title with Spoelstra as their coach?

MidgetTossers · 03-02-12, 11:39 PM

Originally posted by No coincidences

Again, that's what's wrong with this league right now.

When's the last time a "players" team won an NBA title?

won't ever happen again..this isnt baseball or football we are talking about..thats why nba is 3rd in my eyes when it comes to sports

MidgetTossers · 03-02-12, 11:39 PM

Originally posted by No coincidences

Here's a question for all of you: do you think the Heat can win the NBA title with Spoelstra as their coach?

no doubt in my mind

No coincidences · 03-02-12, 11:40 PM

Originally posted by t-wizzle

Not sure what a "players" team is... the Mavs were a better team last year but the Heat had better talent obviously. What is a "players" team?

You just said it's a "players" league -- now you want to know what I mean by "players" teams?

The Mavs had Carlisle. The Heat had Spoelstra. The end.

Do you think it's just a coincidence that the NBA title is won year in and year out by teams with elite coaches?

No coincidences · 03-02-12, 11:41 PM

Originally posted by MidgetTossers

no doubt in my mind

So you think that, when the Heat get into inevitably tight playoff games against the Bulls or whoever comes out of the West, Spoelstra will deliver with late plays out of timeouts?

MidgetTossers · 03-02-12, 11:41 PM

rick carlisle is elite?

t-wizzle · 03-02-12, 11:41 PM

Originally posted by No coincidences

You just said it's a "players" league -- now you want to know what I mean by "players" teams?

The Mavs had Carlisle. The Heat had Spoelstra. The end.

Do you think it's just a coincidence that the NBA title is won year in and year out by teams with elite coaches?

Why did the pistons win when carlisle left? The Mavs had dirk. The Heat had lebron. The end.

Did the Lakers not have the best team in '09 and '10?

No coincidences · 03-02-12, 11:42 PM

Originally posted by MidgetTossers

rick carlisle is elite?

Rick Carlisle is widely considered to be a great bench coach, yes.

MidgetTossers · 03-02-12, 11:43 PM

Originally posted by No coincidences

So you think that, when the Heat get into inevitably tight playoff games against the Bulls or whoever comes out of the West, Spoelstra will deliver with late plays out of timeouts?

sure..either he or his asst coaches will...they dont just hand out nba jobs to anyone and i trust that pat reilly of all people knows a bit more than us about coaching

thebestthereis · 03-02-12, 11:43 PM

It starts at the top from the owner, management, to coaching to the players. The players win but if the people in charge don't have a clue is doesn't mean squat.

No coincidences · 03-02-12, 11:44 PM

Originally posted by t-wizzle

Why did the pistons win when carlisle left? The Mavs had dirk. The Heat had lebron. The end.

Carlisle was getting there and he was a very good coach who won a lot of games in Detroit. Larry Brown had the championship pedigree and delivered a title. Carlisle was that much more seasoned when he coached the Mavs to the title last year.

Did the Lakers not have the best team in '09 and '10?

Debatable.

MidgetTossers · 03-02-12, 11:44 PM

Originally posted by No coincidences

Rick Carlisle is widely considered to be a great bench coach, yes.

i wouldnt put him anywhere near an elite coach but each to their own

No coincidences · 03-02-12, 11:45 PM

Originally posted by thebestthereis

It starts at the top from the owner, management, to coaching to the players. The players win but if the people in charge don't have a clue is doesn't mean squat.

Which is why there are so many pretenders out there who can look great at times but really have no shot of winning a title.

Until they prove otherwise, the Heat fall into that category because they have a star who can't close and a head coach who doesn't have the experience necessary to win a championship.

No coincidences · 03-02-12, 11:45 PM

Originally posted by MidgetTossers

i wouldnt put him anywhere near an elite coach but each to their own

By today's standards at least -- how many are better in the NBA?

t-wizzle · 03-02-12, 11:46 PM

Originally posted by No coincidences

Carlisle was getting there and he was a very good coach who won a lot of games in Detroit. Larry Brown had the championship pedigree and delivered a title. Carlisle was that much more seasoned when he coached the Mavs to the title last year.

Debatable.

Brown had pedigree, but not the pedigree of a winner, usually because he had inferior teams like the sixers in '01. He finally had a championship caliber team in detroit and he got it done. I'm not saying coaching doesn't matter because 2004 was a combination of a great team and a great coach but in the end I am a firm believer that it's players, not plays.

Which teams were better in 2009/10 than the lakers?

No coincidences · 03-02-12, 11:49 PM

Originally posted by t-wizzle

Brown had pedigree, but not the pedigree of a winner, usually because he had inferior teams like the sixers in '01. He finally had a championship caliber team in detroit and he got it done. I'm not saying coaching doesn't matter because 2004 was a combination of a great team and a great coach but in the end I am a firm believer that it's players, not plays.

Which teams were better in 2009/10 than the lakers?

The Heat and/or Thunder have every chance in the world to prove that this season, because if history proves anything, I wouldn't count out a Bulls/Spurs final.

MidgetTossers · 03-02-12, 11:50 PM

Originally posted by No coincidences

By today's standards at least -- how many are better in the NBA?

not sure but i wouldnt put him in the same category as phil jackson and larry brown, popovich to name a few