Anyone like Pistons +5.5?

hawley · 02-19-12, 05:17 AM

Like the over here

I honestly have no idea which Celtics team will turn up each day. does revenge angle still apply if you lost to a pretty shitty team?

actually where is NoCoin....he loves himself a +5.5 home dog

Speedy88 · 02-19-12, 05:50 AM

I think the Pistons confidence outweighs the revenge factor for the Celts. And I don't think there is much of a "revenge factor" when you lose to a weak team like Detroit. Pistons are playing better ball than the Celts right now. Celts have lost 4 of their last 5 games, and Detroit has won 6 of their last 8 games.

The line seems a bit high. Celts were -9.5 just a few days ago at home against the Pistons, and now they are -5.5? Taking into account home court, shouldn't this line be more like Celts -3.5?

Either way, I'll take whatever points I can get. I'm sure the ML is worth a good shot as well.

www.hentaisports · 02-19-12, 05:52 AM

Take Pistons +5.5!!

thebestthereis · 02-19-12, 08:30 AM

Joe public is more heavily involved on Sundays so the books inflate lines a point or two sometimes. Yes the line should be -3.5 or so but making it 5.5 will give them more balanced money here. Teasers/exotics out the ying-yang on the Celtics.

kgindy · 02-19-12, 12:01 PM

I think Boston is 4-1 Ats on Sunday.

djpremier36 · 02-19-12, 02:00 PM

I'm on this one too Speedy. BOL.

Snowball · 02-19-12, 02:14 PM

i can see why you're thinking this way, the line is BOS -5 now

it's a hard game to call either way... but the Celtics usually get "up"
for Sunday games.. good luck..

TheSituation559 · 02-19-12, 02:58 PM

How does the Boston ML look? I don't think they'll over look the Pistons today. They just lost to them

Speedy88 · 02-19-12, 04:57 PM

Line just dropped to BOS -4.5 at pinnacle

YouHave2outs · 02-19-12, 05:01 PM

Originally posted by Speedy88

I've been fading the Celts all season and making good money off of them.

you've been picking the right spots for sure. you'd be up 1.7 units if you flat faded em every game.

BigDofBA · 02-19-12, 05:02 PM

Detroit is one of the five worst teams in the league. They are also coming off an emotional win against the Kings.

Boston has had some rest and they are probably ready to avenge the loss Detroit handed them in Boston.

Just some things to ponder.

Speedy88 · 02-19-12, 05:05 PM

Originally posted by BigDofBA

Detroit is one of the five worst teams in the league. They are also coming off an emotional win against the Kings. Boston has had some rest and they are probably ready to avenge the loss Detroit handed them in Boston. Just some things to ponder.

I think you may be looking into too many factors. I don't think a young and weak Pistons team is really due for a letdown. If this were a veteran team, I think you could say that, but I think all this recent success has given the team confidence. They are no longer intimated by Boston. Boston has no business being 5 point favs on the road.

SalvadorC · 02-19-12, 05:06 PM

Originally posted by Speedy88

Line just dropped to BOS -4.5 at pinnacle

Garnett (hip) expected to miss game

Speedy88 · 02-19-12, 05:07 PM

Originally posted by SalvadorC

Garnett (hip) expected to miss game

thank you sir.

Deuce · 02-19-12, 05:12 PM

Pistons are shit. GL

BigDofBA · 02-19-12, 05:15 PM

Originally posted by Speedy88

I think you may be looking into too many factors. I don't think a young and weak Pistons team is really due for a letdown. If this were a veteran team, I think you could say that, but I think all this recent success has given the team confidence. They are no longer intimated by Boston. Boston has no business being 5 point favs on the road.

Originally posted by Deuce

Pistons are shit. GL

That's a good a point. I was just throwing in my two cents.

The line move was most likely attributed to the Garnett situation and not sharp money coming in on Detroit.

I'm just warning people that shit teams like the Pistons will burn you more times than not.

Speedy88 · 02-19-12, 05:17 PM

Originally posted by BigDofBA

That's a good a point. I was just throwing in my two cents. The line move was most likely attributed to the Garnett situation and not sharp money coming in on Detroit. I'm just warning people that shit teams like the Pistons will burn you more times than not.

Yeah the line movement was due to KG. IMO, the Pistons at home w/ a fully healthy roster now is better than a Celts team on the road w/o KG.

Keep in mind, BOS has to travel to DAL tomorrow whereas DET doesn't play until Tuesday.

BigDofBA · 02-19-12, 05:23 PM

Originally posted by Speedy88

Yeah the line movement was due to KG. IMO, the Pistons at home w/ a fully healthy roster now is better than a Celts team on the road w/o KG.

I haven't made a play on this game yet but I disagree.

The Pistons are almost dead last in the NBA offensively and the Celtics are #2 defensively. Boston should own them on the glass as well.

Boston will have the three best players on the court today so I'm not sure where you are getting that Detroit has a better roster. Also, the Celtics almost have as many road wins as the Pistons have home wins.

The Palace is not a tough place to play in anymore.

moshi · 02-19-12, 05:25 PM

Detroit won against them 5 days ago by about 10 points but majority is still on Boston ML and spread...

BigDofBA · 02-19-12, 05:27 PM

Originally posted by moshi

Detroit won against them 5 days ago by about 10 points but majority is still on Boston ML and spread...

That doesn't mean anything. The Wizards beat the Thunder and the Nets beat the Bulls.

That doesn't mean you take the Wizards and Nets next time those teams play each other.

Detroit is also 10-22.

riskyProps · 02-19-12, 05:28 PM

I like Detroit here as well. They have the confidence that they can beat this Celtic team and will not give up until the end.

Speedy88 · 02-19-12, 05:29 PM

Originally posted by BigDofBA

I haven't made a play on this game yet but I disagree. The Pistons are almost dead last in the NBA offensively and the Celtics are #2 defensively. Boston should own them on the glass as well. Boston will have the three best players on the court today so I'm not sure where you are getting that Detroit has a better roster. Also, the Celtics almost have as many road wins as the Pistons have home wins. The Palace is not a tough place to play in anymore.

Well to be honest, I'm a big BOS doubter. I just think they are a really weak team. They are 15-14 in a pretty shallow eastern conference. Put this team in the West and they'd probably be down in the standings near PHX and GS.

And as for BOS having the 3 best players on the court, I disagree with that. Ray Allen is not better than Greg Monroe or Stuckey. I would even take Ben Gordon over Ray. Ray is old, he rarely scores 20+ anymore. His scoring is wayy down this year. And if he werent' playing with one of the NBA's best passing PG's, he'd probably be scoring closer to 10 points than 15.

the grim · 02-19-12, 05:32 PM

na sorry got boston -5 $300

riskyProps · 02-19-12, 05:32 PM

Originally posted by BigDofBA

That doesn't mean anything. The Wizards beat the Thunder and the Nets beat the Bulls.

That doesn't mean you take the Wizards and Nets next time those teams play each other.

Detroit is also 10-22.

True, they are 10-22 but they are killing it ATS lately. They are at home and rested and Boston has Dallas tomorrow.

BigDofBA · 02-19-12, 05:33 PM

Originally posted by Speedy88

Well to be honest, I'm a big BOS doubter. I just think they are a really weak team. They are 15-14 in a pretty shallow eastern conference. Put this team in the West and they'd probably be down in the standings near PHX and GS. And as for BOS having the 3 best players on the court, I disagree with that. Ray Allen is not better than Greg Monroe or Stuckey. I would even take Ben Gordon over Ray. Ray is old, he rarely scores 20+ anymore. His scoring is wayy down this year.

That's cool. We just have differeing opinions.

I don't think Boston is a world beater by any means, but I think the Pistons are one of the worst teams in the league. I'll take Rondo, Pierce, Allan and Rivers over Monroe, Stuckey, Gordon, and Frank.

As for your comments regarding the East, it may actually be better than the West this year. Miami and Chicago are pretty decent teams.

I think Boston will suffocate the Pistons defensively and own them on the glass. Detroit comes back down to earth this game and Boston avenges it's loss earlier in the week.

Speedy88 · 02-19-12, 05:41 PM

Originally posted by BigDofBA

That's cool. We just have differeing opinions.

I don't think Boston is a world beater by any means, but I think the Pistons are one of the worst teams in the league. I'll take Rondo, Pierce, Allan and Rivers over Monroe, Stuckey, Gordon, and Frank.

As for your comments regarding the East, it may actually be better than the West this year. Miami and Chicago are pretty decent teams.

I think Boston will suffocate the Pistons defensively and own them on the glass. Detroit comes back down to earth this game and Boston avenges it's loss earlier in the week.

West > East

West is much deeper. If playoffs started today, the 9 through 13 seeds in the west would be: POR, UTA, MIN, GS, PHX. The 9 through 13 seeds in the East are MIL, CLE, DET, NJ, TOR. Teams like Phili, ATL, IND, etc. get these nice looking records because they beat up on the vast list of weak eastern conference teams. There are about 6 really bad teams in the east, only 2 really bad teams in the west (NOH and SAC).

But I do agree that the two best teams in the NBA are in the east.

the grim · 02-19-12, 05:41 PM

yeah good stuff Big D

the grim · 02-19-12, 05:47 PM

good shit speedy 88 ...boston not great but enough to beat clev 103 - 94

BigDofBA · 02-19-12, 05:50 PM

Originally posted by Speedy88

Well to be honest, I'm a big BOS doubter. I just think they are a really weak team. They are 15-14 in a pretty shallow eastern conference.

Aren't the Pistons 10-22 in the "shallow" East?

Didn't they lose at home to Washington by 21?

Boston isn't the same team they were a few years ago but they are still the better team here.

Speedy88 · 02-19-12, 05:53 PM

Originally posted by BigDofBA

Aren't the Pistons 10-22 in the "shallow" East? Didn't they lose at home to Washington by 21? Boston isn't the same team they were a few years ago but they are still the better team here.

Yep, but what matters most is what is happening recently. Pistons are 6-2 in their last 8 games. Celts are 1-4 in their last 5. Don't let stuff from 3 months ago dictate how you play today's game.

Good luck to you BigD.

tokio · 02-19-12, 05:55 PM

Boston ML.

hey buddy · 02-19-12, 05:55 PM

Originally posted by SalvadorC

Garnett (hip) expected to miss game

Not that it really matters but Garnett is out due to a family matter according to ESPN. I think this one is close, still lean Boston but gl.

BigDofBA · 02-19-12, 05:56 PM

Originally posted by Speedy88

Yep, but what matters most is what is happening recently. Pistons are 6-2 in their last 8 games. Celts are 1-4 in their last 5. Don't let stuff from 3 months ago dictate how you play today's game. Good luck to you BigD.

I realize the Pistons are 6-2 over the last eight games but I think that's deceptive.

They have beaten the following.

Nets
Nets
Hornets
Kings
Bucks
Celtics

I would like them more had they not beaten Boston five days ago.

Thanks for the kinds words. Hopefully this discussion helped anyone wanting to bet this game. Boston is still a playoff team and the Pistons are still a team that will finish well below .500.

BigDofBA · 02-19-12, 07:09 PM

Boston decided not to play defense.

Nice call on Detroit.