Clippers are Very Square

[Sport_Fish]

Its starting to seem that fading 'square plays' may not be as profitable as one might think. I don't know if anyone has records of this, but it seems not too many 'square' plays have lost and 'sharp' plays have won, or vice versa. It's just about picking the right team/side - any square play can and has won on any given day.

BW's record might somewhat prove this wrong but I think he's just chosen the best spots to fade the public and that's why his record is good so far. Same could be done by choosing the right spots for square plays. I think only in the long long run u might see a slight advantage on fading square plays, simply because of the 'vegas wins at the end' angle.

[Speedy88]

Oh yes, let's single out the "haters" who responded to a thread calling our picks "square"... face facts, the know-it-all who bashed our bets with his "your picks are square" nonsense LOST. By starting this type of thread, he was open game.

"The Right Play" was not Portland, BTW. You see, they lost and failed to cover.

Why do you come in here just to stir up trouble? You won your bet, good job But you don't have to come in and bash BW just because he was wrong. Why do people on SBR feel the need to rub their own wins in the faces of people who picked the wrong side? Nobody is against each other on SBR, we are against the books.

[loungee]

Oh yes, let's single out the "haters" who responded to a thread calling our picks "square"... face facts, the know-it-all who bashed our bets with his "your picks are square" nonsense LOST. By starting this type of thread, he was open game. "The Right Play" was not Portland, BTW. You see, they lost and failed to cover.

Last I checked, BW didn't call you out personally and said you were sqaure. He said a certain team was sqaure, which, by its title, doesn't infer that anyone who picked the Clips were idiots. If you actually looked around or noticed threads that didn't start with "LAC" or "OKC" then you would know BW starts every thread with ______ are Very Square. The fact of the matter is you're getting very defensive over absolutely nothing, which makes me believe you probably shadowed BW on his bad streak and is not a pissy 12 year old. He lost a game. You ever lose a game you cap? I haven't seen any of your threads with your picks. Count me shocked. And I'll state this again as I've stated in another thread: POR was the right play. Just because it loses doesn't mean it wasn't the right play. If every angle, stat, situation and line movement points one way, and that particular play doesn't win, does that make it the wrong play? Nevermind. Dumb question. You keep betting OKC, LAC and MIA blindly and see how your profits turn out. Don't sit there and attack me, BW or anyone else because clearly you lack knowledge in capping, gambling, basketball and life. You tail other people and get pissed off if they don't hit 100% of the time. Make your own thread and make your own picks. I'd love to see your intelligence at work.

[loungee]

Its starting to seem that fading 'square plays' may not be as profitable as one might think. I don't know if anyone has records of this, but it seems not too many 'square' plays have lost and 'sharp' plays have won, or vice versa. It's just about picking the right team/side - any square play can and has won on any given day.

BW's record might somewhat prove this wrong but I think he's just chosen the best spots to fade the public and that's why his record is good so far. Same could be done by choosing the right spots for square plays. I think only in the long long run u might see a slight advantage on fading square plays, simply because of the 'vegas wins at the end' angle.

It's not that he is going out of his way to say "you're square and an idiot if you bet this team." It's the name of his thread. It almost always the name of his thread. It's just how he identifies himself. People need to stop blindly tailing people and do their own research, and if it doesn't add up, don't play. I can't remember what thread I saw it in, but it was a video from Snatch, basically saying, If I throw you a bone, I don't wanna know how it tastes. Bottom line.

[YouHave2outs]

people in this thread are drunk

[CallMeMrOMac]

I tail who?

I pick who blindly?

I think you're thinking of bleek.

I DO start my own threads. I don't put "Lock" or anything in them. I give my picks and converse.

Fact is, when you start a cocky "This team is square" thread, you're telling every poster that "Hey, guess what, that team you might be picking? They're square. You're going to lose." So we have every right to call someone out for their cockiness. I said my piece.

which makes me believe you probably shadowed BW on his bad streak and is not a pissy 12 year old.

Check the "Tail Me" thread and see otherwise.

I just hate these types of "Hey squares..." threads. They are cocky and more times than not, end up with the OP having egg on their face. I'd like to see SBR change for the better.

"He calls all his threads _____ are square" is not a defense. Fact is, he's stating "Your pick is wrong" plain and simple. You reap what you sow.

Peace, BOL tomorrow.

Why do people on SBR feel the need to rub their own wins in the faces of people who picked the wrong side?

"I like POR tonight" = I don't click. Someone's hunch is wrong.

"Clippers are square" = Someone is basically saying they know something you don't and their pick is better than yours. Fair game.

FWIW, my only real "bashing" was saying "This thread was square." Didn't think I was being an ass.

[YouHave2outs]

mr o mac are you drunk? calm down man

[GoBlue77]

hasnt he lost several in a row now?

i was right. BW is ice cold. lost his texas CBB play, lost this one. after the hot start he's been cold.

[freakydave]

Picking a team in the third game of a b2btob isn't very profitable especially when the opponent is over 500 on the road.Why are so many people here so shocked by the "choke" job by Portland in the 4thQ?The Clippers played as bad a game as they possibly could have & still covered.

[Speedy88]

I tail who? I pick who blindly? I think you're thinking of bleek. I DO start my own threads. I don't put "Lock" or anything in them. I give my picks and converse. Fact is, when you start a cocky "This team is square" thread, you're telling every poster that "Hey, guess what, that team you might be picking? They're square. You're going to lose." So we have every right to call someone out for their cockiness. I said my piece. Check the "Tail Me" thread and see otherwise. I just hate these types of "Hey squares..." threads. They are cocky and more times than not, end up with the OP having egg on their face. I'd like to see SBR change for the better. "He calls all his threads _____ are square" is not a defense. Fact is, he's stating "Your pick is wrong" plain and simple. You reap what you sow. Peace, BOL tomorrow. "I like POR tonight" = I don't click. Someone's hunch is wrong. "Clippers are square" = Someone is basically saying they know something you don't and their pick is better than yours. Fair game. FWIW, my only real "bashing" was saying "This thread was square." Didn't think I was being an ass.

Dude you are way off on all your comments. First off, calling BW "cocky" is almost laughable. After he wins, he rarely says anything more than a sentence. He usually just posts a Second of all, square does not have any negative connotation. Square means the obvious and public play. I don't get why so many people get offended with the term square on here. There are already plenty of people on SBR heads dancing around saying "I'm Proud To Be A Square!" If you are actually butt-hurt over him calling other people's picks square then that is just sad.

[moshi]

The more I think about, neither Portland, nor the Clippers was the 'right' play. It could've gone either way and it was a MIRACLE Clippers managed to cover (just). The right play was the UNDER. End of story.

[moshi]

Dude you are way off on all your comments. First off, calling BW "cocky" is almost laughable. After he wins, he rarely says anything more than a sentence. He usually just posts a Second of all, square does not have any negative connotation. Square means the obvious and public play. I don't get why so many people get offended with the term square on here. There are already plenty of people on SBR heads dancing around saying "I'm Proud To Be A Square!" If you are actually butt-hurt over him calling other people's picks square than that is just sad.

I think we can both agree BW is a man of few words, but you're kidding yourself if you think 'square' does not have a negative connotation, especially on betting boards. Like it or not, people think its a good thing to 'fade the public' because the public loses longterm. There are also loads of threads on here where people have used it as an insult (far more than those saying 'proud to be square').

[loungee]

I tail who?

I pick who blindly?

I think you're thinking of bleek.

I DO start my own threads. I don't put "Lock" or anything in them. I give my picks and converse.

Fact is, when you start a cocky "This team is square" thread, you're telling every poster that "Hey, guess what, that team you might be picking? They're square. You're going to lose." So we have every right to call someone out for their cockiness. I said my piece.

Check the "Tail Me" thread and see otherwise.

I just hate these types of "Hey squares..." threads. They are cocky and more times than not, end up with the OP having egg on their face. I'd like to see SBR change for the better.

"He calls all his threads _____ are square" is not a defense. Fact is, he's stating "Your pick is wrong" plain and simple. You reap what you sow.

Peace, BOL tomorrow.

"I like POR tonight" = I don't click. Someone's hunch is wrong.

"Clippers are square" = Someone is basically saying they know something you don't and their pick is better than yours. Fair game.

FWIW, my only real "bashing" was saying "This thread was square." Didn't think I was being an ass.

Jesus man.. I don't know where to start. But I'm not. I'm gonna say this though: BW, since I've been around, has always started his threads the same way. If you feel that one post or a couple of words has such an influence over you that when you read "________ is Square" you go into a fit of rage, you need to relax. He's not stating that you are wrong. He's not saying you're an idiot for picking against him. He's not stating anything mean or degrogatory. It is his way of stating his opinion in a different way, ya know, other then "OKCCCCCCC IS BIG MONEY DAWG STUUUFFFFFFF" like most idiotic threads I see on here. You need to relax and stop taking offense because he calls a TEAM square. Remember.. he's not calling you or anyone backing that team square, or stupid, or bad dressers.

BOL tomorrow though. I hope you can continue to build your sucess off of LAC tonight.

[Speedy88]

I think we can both agree BW is a man of few words, but you're kidding yourself if you think 'square' does not have a negative connotation, especially on betting boards. Like it or not, people think its a good thing to 'fade the public' because the public loses longterm. There are also loads of threads on here where people have used it as an insult (far more than those saying 'proud to be square').

Square truly means picking the obvious and public play, but I am aware that it floats around on these boards with a negative connotation. So I do apologize for saying that it didn't. But for MrMac to get butt-hurt and take offense to it like he is a child is humorous.

I just ask myself, why do people get the urge to go into other people's threads and talk down on them because they lost? Makes no sense to me. Didn't your mother tell you, if you don't have anything nice to say, then don't say anything at all.

Can't believe this guy actually called BW cocky. He is actually the exact opposite of cocky. It actually weirds me out a bit that BW doesn't talk his record up more. The guy started the NBA season with a record of 17-2 or something close to that. From what I can recall, I don't once remember him stating his season record. A lot of people have asked, but he never once mentioned it.

[loungee]

Thank you. BW doesn't brag when he wins, he didn't brag when he had his incredible streak, he just doesn't brag. He makes his makes to the best of his ability and moves on. And I'm amazed when people are negative if a play loses (as in Dad's thread). Dad started off like 17-0 (or something) and then ended up losing, what, 3 in 5, and some people in HIS thread wanted to hang him? I don't get the negativity, first of all. Second of all, people like Dad, BW, and even very good cappers with not such polished records (Lakerboy, NoCoin) give up FREE picks, and very good picks, with no monetary (sp?) return. People want to come into BW's thread and bash, fine. Make your own thread and I will keep a meticlious record so the whole world knows what it is. It's absurd to bash people for losing, its more absurd to bash good cappers, and its fukkin ridiclious to do both in said cappers own thread. Grow up and give me some winners RIGHT NOW!

[Mocknroll]

The more I think about, neither Portland, nor the Clippers was the 'right' play. It could've gone either way and it was a MIRACLE Clippers managed to cover (just). The right play was the UNDER. End of story.

You are correct that the under was the right play, because it came in.

You are incorrect however in saying that neither Clippers or Blazers were the right play. The Clippers covered, therefore they were the right play, no matter how ugly the game was, but I do think it depends on which angle you took the Clippers as to whether you made the right play for the right reasons.

If you took the Clippers because you thought you were getting unbelievable value and they would smash the Blazers, then I believe you misstepped and were lucky to come away with a win.

If you took Clippers because you were fading a tired team on a b2b2b who were without their star who have not been playing great ball then you absolutely made the right play, and that is exactly how the game panned out.

[loungee]

You are correct that the under was the right play, because it came in.

You are incorrect however in saying that neither Clippers or Blazers were the right play. The Clippers covered, therefore they were the right play, no matter how ugly the game was, but I do think it depends on which angle you took the Clippers as to whether you made the right play for the right reasons.

If you took the Clippers because you thought you were getting unbelievable value and they would smash the Blazers, then I believe you misstepped and were lucky to come away with a win.

If you took Clippers because you were fading a tired team on a b2b2b who were without their star who have not been playing great ball then you absolutely made the right play, and that is exactly how the game panned out.

That was said pretty well and I agree.. on most part. But I do appreciate some intelligent input and not the usual "Clips win! WHAT UP?!? THEY'LL NEVER LOSE AND WILL ALWAYS COVER" mentality.

[dwluv3333]

let's be honest there were times during this game when bettors on either side POR/LAC both would have cancelled their bets if they had the option to (excluding live hedging here). that game was straight up ugly, honestly both teams deserved to lose that game straight up. point total missed under by 43 pts lmao you can't tell me vegas capped that one correctly.

[Mocknroll]

I totally agree that some input and and breakdown of the game would be constructive. I guess my point was just to clarify the the 'right' pick cannot be the losing side. I think anyone who picked Portland here made a well justified and researched wrong pick, if that makes sense.

I wanted to pull the trigger on Clippers but opted not to. I generally like to play a side that I think make a good case for why they will cover as opposed to fading teams. In this case, whilst I would have hit, I didn't think fading Portland at home was a strong enough play for me to put any money down. Each to their own, I just find it bemusing that people that lost their money betting on a sporting result somehow made the right play???

[Finch Dinero]

You guys need to stop trying so hard to be sharp....Clippers was the EASY pick here.

[dwluv3333]

You guys need to stop trying so hard to be sharp....Clippers was the EASY pick here.

is this what you were thinking when clippers were down 18 with 8 min left in the 3rd quarter

[Finch Dinero]

Lol actually I fell asleep in the third quarter. But the fact that people took Portland on a b2b2b without their best player against a healthy Clippers team....ill take this "square" victory.

[dwluv3333]

i really didnt see the portland angle either... other than the fact that they are really good at home...

aldridge goes out and they lose convincingly to wizards... then barely beat a monta ellis-less warriors (sick, didn't play well and sat out entire 4th quarter)... then have to play griffin/jordan with no aldridge... and on b2b2b... at best this was a pick-em but by no means a sure pick for the blazers.

[Avenger]

I'm telling ya, SBR is a front for the books. I've seen this so many times, a capper gets really hot then he goes ice cold.

I see it on SBR way more than Covers or Rx. So, it's not variance-is-a-bitch theory.

BW: why don't you start posting your fades? Maybe you can name the thread, "X Team is too sharp" or something like that?

Guys, maybe we should stop the BW nut-hugging, and give him some room. BW, you'll make a comeback, you always do.

[loungee]

I'll quote my man dwluv3333 from a different thread:
"..the "right play" is the play that you make after rationalizing, and the one that even after seeing the result, you still think if you had to do it again, you'd make the same play. honestly IMO just putting in the effort and reasoning before choosing a play makes it "sharp" decision. after that, 50% (or more) is totally out of our control and totally depends on if the players are having a good day."

Which, to sum up, is to say after going over angles, situations, stats, etc., and coming to the conclusion that a certain play is the "right play," and it loses, doesn't mean it was the wrong play. The public (i.e. people like you who basically only bet OKC, LAC, MIA) will lose in the long run. Fine. You won tonight on the wrong play. But over the course of the season, as you ride those three teams (cause lets be honest, we all know thats what you do every night), you will lose more money then I (or any other smart/sharp capper on here i.e. LTA, LB, NC, CK). So enjoy you win tonight. I seriously congrat you.

[loungee]

I'm telling ya, SBR is a front for the books. I've seen this so many times, a capper gets really hot then he goes ice cold.

I see it on SBR way more than Covers or Rx. So, it's not variance-is-a-bitch theory.

BW: why don't you start posting your fades? Maybe you can name the thread, "X Team is too sharp" or something like that?

Guys, maybe we should stop the BW nut-hugging, and give him some room. BW, you'll make a comeback, you always do.

Oh I agree. I'm not trying to "nut-hug" or anything like that. Nor am I trying to play nice, or defend him, necessarily. He can stand up for himself I'm sure. I guess, for me at least, when I see threads like "BW is 1-3-1 his last 5: he's square" or when fellow posters bash him when he gets one wrong, it's irratating. I thought we were all here to help each other make money, not rag on each other. If somebody wins you 12, 13, 14, or whatever in a row, and then loses a couple, does that give you a right to be a douche? No. That was the point I was trying to get across. That's all bud.

[RawBillyIce]

Portland was the right pick! LAC got lucky with CP3 at very end. Portland dominated the whole game

Let bygones be bygones. I got TOR -7 at home against Bobcats as soon as lines came out last night.

Feel free to fade that

[m11chen]

Portland was the right pick! LAC got lucky with CP3 at very end. Portland dominated the whole game

You don't "get lucky" with CP3. Lucky is when Ron Artest drains a game winning 3 or something. When CP3 does it, it's just a regular night...

[RawBillyIce]

ha ha I hear ya !

[RawBillyIce]

...don't u mean....................WORLD MUTHA FKIN PEACE!

[CallMeMrOMac]

Portland dominated the whole game

Which quarter did they dominate more? The 2nd (16 points), 3rd (17 points), or 4th (11 points).

Last I checked, scoring 44 points over THREE QUARTERS is not dominating.

Portland's performance was more akin to someone buying a brand new tire for their car, then running over 7 nails on the way out of the parking lot.

Congrats, Clippers pickers. The right pick won.
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[loungee]

A blanket statement basically reiterating your stupidity about all things gambling. Thank you for proving my point. What's your thread name again? YTD Record? +/- Units?

[CHAZ]

is this what you were thinking when clippers were down 18 with 8 min left in the 3rd quarter

Exactly lol


Bad beat for the Portland backers and lucky for the Clippers

[CallMeMrOMac]

A blanket statement basically reiterating your stupidity about all things gambling. Thank you for proving my point. What's your thread name again? YTD Record? +/- Units?

YTD record is 28-22 (nasty 0-6 skid two weeks ago)
+20.5 units
1 unit = $150

Worst loss = 11 units on DEN vs. MEM (the epic 11 point lead blown late in 4th, went to OT, DEN misses runner end of reg...sigh)
Best win = 13 units ML on NYG vs. Pats (Super Bowl) And NO, I didn't count this in my NBA +/- units.
Best NBA win = 9 units on POR vs. Bobcats (98-50 scores with time to go are excellent)

I didn't make a blanket statement, I posted facts and an analogy.

Calm down, you're just salty you took the Blazers and your little "square" OP is getting what he deserves for his weak-ass "I know something you don't know!" threads.

Maybe you are BettingWizard's "sock puppet" account because he's too ashamed to show his face.

[SpreadSniper]

Guys lose one bet and act like the sky is falling. Act like you've won/lost a bet before u fukkin clowns