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  • Tennispro
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 01-13-09
    • 512

    #1
    Who doesn't take Mavs +6.5 should not gamble on nba
    Mavs is still a good team yea they need to gel a lil more but they will come to play tonight.
    After a 0-2 start they will be focused and ready, Mavs is a great road team so traveling won't be an issue.
    Okc will want revenge ofc but after a great 3-0 start and playing b2b the revenge factor will not be that effective if you know what i mean.
    I think Mavs take this one but i will gladly take the 6.5 thnx Vegas.
  • EaglesPhan36
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 12-06-06
    • 71662

    #2
    Mavs suck bro. No chemistry. No defense. I don't bet full games, but until Dallas actually competes in a game, I think you're asking for it.
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    • Tennispro
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 01-13-09
      • 512

      #3
      It's all about when to bet a team, Dallas in a great spot tonight just like Bobcats yesterday.
      You don't bet a team when they are on a winning streak and bookies are setting the lines way to high, you bet when a good team like Dallas gets no respect and is focused to play.
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      • basenock
        SBR Hustler
        • 10-21-11
        • 54

        #4
        Originally posted by Tennispro
        It's all about when to bet a team, Dallas in a great spot tonight just like Bobcats yesterday.
        You don't bet a team when they are on a winning streak and bookies are setting the lines way to high, you bet when a good team like Dallas gets no respect and is focused to play.
        Even if Mavs are focused.. they just suck.. slow.. they got no D.. got no depth..
        Bball is all about match up..
        whos gonna guard KD and Westbrook?
        JKidds 40 yrs old and Vince Carter is slow fat and old
        Mavs have nobody to guard the paint.. Brendan Haywood? He sucks!!
        They will get out rebounded by young and atheletic combo of Perkins and Ibaka
        Plus Westbrook had sorry game yesterday so he'll come to play plus they're at home
        Only thing Mavs have is Dirks one leg up ugly looking fadaway jumper but he aint scoring 50 pts

        Okahoma should win this game by 10+ pts
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        • HoulihansTX
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 02-12-09
          • 30566

          #5
          Mavs blow dick. Deal with it.
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          • ksnooksk
            SBR MVP
            • 11-18-11
            • 2890

            #6
            This is a set up. Everyone will auto pick the Mavs here. Thunder by 12.
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            • Tennispro
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 01-13-09
              • 512

              #7
              Originally posted by basenock
              Even if Mavs are focused.. they just suck.. slow.. they got no D.. got no depth..
              Bball is all about match up..
              whos gonna guard KD and Westbrook?
              JKidds 40 yrs old and Vince Carter is slow fat and old
              Mavs have nobody to guard the paint.. Brendan Haywood? He sucks!!
              They will get out rebounded by young and atheletic combo of Perkins and Ibaka
              Plus Westbrook had sorry game yesterday so he'll come to play plus they're at home
              Only thing Mavs have is Dirks one leg up ugly looking fadaway jumper but he aint scoring 50 pts

              Okahoma should win this game by 10+ pts
              Wow thinking like that will not make you money what about yesterday who was going to guard Lebron, Wade and Bosh ohh wait good teams don't always play good what a shock.....
              In nba everyone can play, the sooner you realize that the sooner you will make money...
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              • Tennispro
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 01-13-09
                • 512

                #8
                Originally posted by ksnooksk
                This is a set up. Everyone will auto pick the Mavs here. Thunder by 12.
                Public is almost 50/50 on this one i never pick over 60% public play.
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                • PAULYPOKER
                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                  • 12-06-08
                  • 36581

                  #9
                  If the Mavs lose are you gonna quit gamblin?
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                  • Tennispro
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 01-13-09
                    • 512

                    #10
                    Originally posted by PAULYPOKER
                    If the Mavs lose are you gonna quit gamblin?
                    K Pauly if the Mavs lose by 7 or more i will quit.
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                    • basenock
                      SBR Hustler
                      • 10-21-11
                      • 54

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Tennispro
                      Wow thinking like that will not make you money what about yesterday who was going to guard Lebron, Wade and Bosh ohh wait good teams don't always play good what a shock.....
                      In nba everyone can play, the sooner you realize that the sooner you will make money...
                      Thinking like "ohhh Mavs just lost 2 games so they should win the 3rd" will make you go broke.
                      Bobcats are young and fresh, they can keep up and run fast tempo game all day with any team.
                      Plus they were at home.
                      Mavs are slow, fat, old and ummmm slow.. thats why young and fast teams like the Heat and Denver was able to run up the score.

                      Mavs 78 Thunder 95
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                      • mikea33
                        SBR MVP
                        • 11-14-11
                        • 2149

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Tennispro
                        Mavs is still a good team yea they need to gel a lil more but they will come to play tonight.
                        After a 0-2 start they will be focused and ready, Mavs is a great road team so traveling won't be an issue.
                        Okc will want revenge ofc but after a great 3-0 start and playing b2b the revenge factor will not be that effective if you know what i mean.
                        I think Mavs take this one but i will gladly take the 6.5 thnx Vegas.

                        i dont know what you mean
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                        • adamo1018
                          SBR Sharp
                          • 01-16-11
                          • 451

                          #13
                          A lot of good points here but what I've noticed a lot lately in this forum is people going off the deep end after like a bad game or two. The last time I checked the mavs are world champs and only got better with the addition of odom. Theyll be a top 4 team in the west when it's all said and done and I just think this line tonight seems pretty sharp, so good luck, but I think I'll stay away.
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                          • BigDofBA
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 09-30-09
                            • 19313

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Tennispro
                            Mavs is still a good team yea they need to gel a lil more but they will come to play tonight.
                            After a 0-2 start they will be focused and ready, Mavs is a great road team so traveling won't be an issue.
                            Okc will want revenge ofc but after a great 3-0 start and playing b2b the revenge factor will not be that effective if you know what i mean.
                            I think Mavs take this one but i will gladly take the 6.5 thnx Vegas.
                            I typically fade people that write like third graders. GL though.
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                            • basenock
                              SBR Hustler
                              • 10-21-11
                              • 54

                              #15
                              Originally posted by adamo1018
                              A lot of good points here but what I've noticed a lot lately in this forum is people going off the deep end after like a bad game or two. The last time I checked the mavs are world champs and only got better with the addition of odom. Theyll be a top 4 team in the west when it's all said and done and I just think this line tonight seems pretty sharp, so good luck, but I think I'll stay away.
                              Alot of young superstars like KD, Westbrook, Lebron etc were playing in summer leagues, summer tour, overseas etc etc.
                              What did Mavs do during the lock out? Drink beer and celebrate their one and only never to be repeated championship.
                              They're physically not ready to run. Again, Mavs are old, fat and slow. Fade them for another month or so.
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                              • suicidekings
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 03-23-09
                                • 9962

                                #16
                                Looking at the Mavs first two games, the first was against a Heat team out for revenge that had a long time to prepare for the game (Dallas had no chance in that game), followed the next night by a matchup against a high-tempo Nuggets team playing their first game of the year. Not an easy opening set, even if the team hadn't undergone significant roster moves in the offseason, so it's kind funny that people have made up their minds about the Mavs after 2 games...

                                The Thunder, after controlling the Magic nicely, have won by 4 over the Wolves, and by 3 over the Grizz (who were missing Conley). They haven't really been dominant thus far and are now walking into their 4th game in 5 days. Westbrook doesn't appear to have learned anything in the offseason and Durant is coming off a 32 point, 38 minute game.

                                I like the Mavs to win this game.
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                                • No coincidences
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 01-18-10
                                  • 76300

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by suicidekings
                                  Westbrook doesn't appear to have learned anything in the offseason and Durant is coming off a 32 point, 38 minute game.

                                  I like the Mavs to win this game.
                                  He actually seems to have gotten worse.

                                  Of course I say that and he'll hang 40 on me tonight.

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                                  • M.W.
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 09-07-08
                                    • 1668

                                    #18
                                    1. Carlisle knows how to stop Westbrook.
                                    2. The officiating crew seems to favor the Mavs.
                                    3. OKC could take the Mavs lightly after two easy wins over the Mavs in the preseason followed by the Mavs' pathetic performances against Miami and Denver.
                                    4. This is OKC's 4th game in 5 days.

                                    All that should keep this one close. I'll say OKC by 20.
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                                    • BigDofBA
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 09-30-09
                                      • 19313

                                      #19
                                      You really think OKC will take the defending champs lightly after Dallas ended their season last year?

                                      People think Westbrook is worse than last year?

                                      We are only 3 games in people!!!! Geez.
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                                      • shawnjohn5
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 01-13-10
                                        • 836

                                        #20
                                        This is a definite stay away game for anyone wagering. If you think Dallas rolls you might be mistaken, and if you think they cover you might be right but this game could easily be a 15 point game at the half. Be very careful, if you want a much easier game Sacramento is the best play on the board.
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                                        • ShogunRua
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 12-23-09
                                          • 4668

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by adamo1018
                                          The last time I checked the mavs are world champs and only got better with the addition of odom.
                                          Losing Chandler and Barea??
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                                          • shawnjohn5
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 01-13-10
                                            • 836

                                            #22
                                            Dont forget their BEST perimeter defender in Stevenson, cmon Adamo this is a very ignorant statement and you might wanna do a little more research. Dallas looks like the team they used to be, average team with Dirk scoring a lot and them not winnning a lot.
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                                            • BigDofBA
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 09-30-09
                                              • 19313

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by ShogunRua
                                              Losing Chandler and Barea??
                                              No kidding. The Mavs lose three key players and get blown out at home twice to start the year yet they're a better team?

                                              I love this place.
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                                              • Swan4brownlow
                                                SBR High Roller
                                                • 12-23-11
                                                • 120

                                                #24
                                                The Mavs have looked terrible their first 2 games. I don't think a few days is enough time for things to turn around enough for them to be able to get within 6 of OKC. Yeh it might be OKC's 4th in 5 nights but they're a young team, the fatigue factor wouldn't be as strong as if they were a veteran team, plus Durant can score at will anyway. Add 6th man of the year in Harden, a fired up Westbrook after his performance last night and some rebounding beasts in Perkins and Ibaka up against Haywood (lol) and I think OKC wins by double digits.
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                                                • jabro21
                                                  SBR Hustler
                                                  • 12-29-11
                                                  • 58

                                                  #25
                                                  suicidekings, i had the same analysis almost exactly. i think okc could lead the league in wins this yr, but this is a tough spot for them considering the wkend they've had and the fact that they've been barely beating teams in the last couple games. they are young and have horses, but what worries me about taking dallas is they may not be over the championship hangover yet. the most obvious win of the entire yr was miami in that opening game, and the hangover for dal was still there in game 2, so the thinking is a championship team(for all intents and purposes) with all its players healthy should come to play in game 3 when they're still winless. However dallas hasn't shown a heartbeat yet, and has had some player movement. and the line seems high against them, which tells me something is up. also when plays seem to obvious to me, they usually are. would love it if dallas wins this outright, just for my sanity.
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                                                  • IllyPhilly[DOC]
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 07-18-10
                                                    • 2512

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Tennispro
                                                    Mavs is still a good team yea they need to gel a lil more but they will come to play tonight.
                                                    After a 0-2 start they will be focused and ready, Mavs is a great road team so traveling won't be an issue.
                                                    Okc will want revenge ofc but after a great 3-0 start and playing b2b the revenge factor will not be that effective if you know what i mean.
                                                    I think Mavs take this one but i will gladly take the 6.5 thnx Vegas.
                                                    I hear what your saying, but the Mavs aren't up to par this year. Those old mofo's partied all break long.... CHAMPS BABY! Give them couple more games or another week. OKC are young, but had a nice playoff stretch. If Westbrook doesnt take more than 15 shots OKC will cover. OKC or no play for me
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                                                    • EaglesPhan36
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 12-06-06
                                                      • 71662

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Tennispro
                                                      It's all about when to bet a team, Dallas in a great spot tonight just like Bobcats yesterday. You don't bet a team when they are on a winning streak and bookies are setting the lines way to high, you bet when a good team like Dallas gets no respect and is focused to play.
                                                      I think you're off one one thing, Dallas being a good team my man. I don't know what you've seen from them that indicates they are a good team? The pieces they lost in the off-season have crippled what this team did well last year. No Chandler, no enforcer in the middle to protect the paint. No Barea, no fast break. The pieces they added have not meshed at all so far. Carter looks as old as he's ever looked. Odom doesn't seem like he knows his role yet. Scorer? Rebounder? Distributor? This team may come together at some point, but questionable that is any time in the next few weeks until they get a better feel for each other.
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                                                      • linedrivr
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 01-04-10
                                                        • 2223

                                                        #28
                                                        Mavs blow. Wouldn't wager a loaf of bread on them much less any coin.
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                                                        • suicidekings
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 03-23-09
                                                          • 9962

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by EaglesPhan36
                                                          I think you're off one one thing, Dallas being a good team my man. I don't know what you've seen from them that indicates they are a good team? The pieces they lost in the off-season have crippled what this team did well last year. No Chandler, no enforcer in the middle to protect the paint. No Barea, no fast break. The pieces they added have not meshed at all so far. Carter looks as old as he's ever looked. Odom doesn't seem like he knows his role yet. Scorer? Rebounder? Distributor? This team may come together at some point, but questionable that is any time in the next few weeks until they get a better feel for each other.
                                                          Any analysis based on two games is severely flawed. I agree that it's a matter of when the team jells, but two days off after a tough B2B to start the year against a team on 4in5 is a great spot for that chemistry to take a big step forward at a price that you would never get 10-20 games into the season.
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                                                          • suicidekings
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 03-23-09
                                                            • 9962

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by jabro21
                                                            suicidekings, i had the same analysis almost exactly. i think okc could lead the league in wins this yr, but this is a tough spot for them considering the wkend they've had and the fact that they've been barely beating teams in the last couple games. they are young and have horses, but what worries me about taking dallas is they may not be over the championship hangover yet. the most obvious win of the entire yr was miami in that opening game, and the hangover for dal was still there in game 2, so the thinking is a championship team(for all intents and purposes) with all its players healthy should come to play in game 3 when they're still winless. However dallas hasn't shown a heartbeat yet, and has had some player movement. and the line seems high against them, which tells me something is up. also when plays seem to obvious to me, they usually are. would love it if dallas wins this outright, just for my sanity.
                                                            IMO, you really have to be capping games at this point on your preseason ratings, without any current season data included yet. It just doesn't mean anything to me that Dallas started slow against two tough opponents. I like the spot and the line enough to play it, and I freely admit it might blow up in my face with a 20 point Thunder win. I think we're on the right side here. GL tonight.
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                                                            • shawnjohn5
                                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                                              • 01-13-10
                                                              • 836

                                                              #31
                                                              I don't need two games to see the mavs lost a huge huge piece in chandler (dirk said he was the heart of their defense). They also lost best defender on the wing. Your thinking is exactly whydallas is getting 6.5. Why do you think this isn't closer to a 2 or 3 point spread. Okc main players Durant westbrook harden ibaka all under 25 and perkins is what 27? Do you really think these guys will be that effected by this schedule just 3 games in? They've had 6 months off man, they will be ready. Again I'm not playing this game because their are better plays out there, but it doesn't take a genius to see how much Dallas lost without even having to watch a game. Butler, chandler, Jj, Stevenson, three of those guys are usually starters and the fourth is a big factor off the bench. What am I missing?
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                                                              • suicidekings
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 03-23-09
                                                                • 9962

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by shawnjohn5
                                                                I don't need two games to see the mavs lost a huge huge piece in chandler (dirk said he was the heart of their defense). They also lost best defender on the wing. Your thinking is exactly whydallas is getting 6.5. Why do you think this isn't closer to a 2 or 3 point spread. Okc main players Durant westbrook harden ibaka all under 25 and perkins is what 27? Do you really think these guys will be that effected by this schedule just 3 games in? They've had 6 months off man, they will be ready. Again I'm not playing this game because their are better plays out there, but it doesn't take a genius to see how much Dallas lost without even having to watch a game. Butler, chandler, Jj, Stevenson, three of those guys are usually starters and the fourth is a big factor off the bench. What am I missing?
                                                                Butler missed the majority of last season, so let's just leave him out of this conversation. Barea was big for them last year, but Roddy Beaubois provides a similar energy, with less experience (but probably a higher ceiling). Barea brought very little to the table at the defensive end. I don't see this change as a big downgrade now, and it will eventually be a plus for the Mavs. Stevenson will be missed, no doubt, however last year it was Shawn Marion that did the majority of the work in defending Durant and he actually did a very good job. Durant still got his points, but Marion made him work for them. Harden is the other guy that needs to be contained/challenged regularly for the Mavs to be successful.

                                                                Chandler is obviously the one that's missed the most and Haywood is a downgrade, however Lamar Odom is a solid help defender with size that's capable of stepping up and playing physical in the paint as well as playing man to man against strong offensive players. If he can be a presence in helping clog up the paint tonight, it's going to result in the Thunder having difficulty driving into the lane, forcing Westbrook to shoot more from 17ft+. The Mavs now have the ability to really put a big lineup on the floor, with Dirk/Odom capable of working either high or low successfully. It's a different look for sure, but I'm not convinced that this team is worse than last year's team. Perhaps just less hungry.

                                                                I only have 1u on the Mavs ML, so it's a small play. Should be an interesting and revealing game regardless.
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                                                                • Suarez
                                                                  SBR Rookie
                                                                  • 12-23-11
                                                                  • 26

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by suicidekings
                                                                  Butler missed the majority of last season, so let's just leave him out of this conversation. Barea was big for them last year, but Roddy Beaubois provides a similar energy, with less experience (but probably a higher ceiling). Barea brought very little to the table at the defensive end. I don't see this change as a big downgrade now, and it will eventually be a plus for the Mavs. Stevenson will be missed, no doubt, however last year it was Shawn Marion that did the majority of the work in defending Durant and he actually did a very good job. Durant still got his points, but Marion made him work for them. Harden is the other guy that needs to be contained/challenged regularly for the Mavs to be successful. Chandler is obviously the one that's missed the most and Haywood is a downgrade, however Lamar Odom is a solid help defender with size that's capable of stepping up and playing physical in the paint as well as playing man to man against strong offensive players. If he can be a presence in helping clog up the paint tonight, it's going to result in the Thunder having difficulty driving into the lane, forcing Westbrook to shoot more from 17ft+. The Mavs now have the ability to really put a big lineup on the floor, with Dirk/Odom capable of working either high or low successfully. It's a different look for sure, but I'm not convinced that this team is worse than last year's team. Perhaps just less hungry. I only have 1u on the Mavs ML, so it's a small play. Should be an interesting and revealing game regardless.
                                                                  Like your analysis and agree with a lot of the points. The Mavs will miss Chandler's defensive intensity and leadership, but I really think it's only a matter of time before they come together and start playing just as well as they did last season.
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                                                                  • shaneel02
                                                                    Restricted User
                                                                    • 12-28-10
                                                                    • 21

                                                                    #34
                                                                    good luck
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                                                                    • rdkjglsk
                                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                                      • 12-29-11
                                                                      • 253

                                                                      #35
                                                                      i like OKC but westbrook is playing like an immature child. you can see that his cold shooting streak has really upset him and he passes the ball and plays defense like he just doesn't care anymore.
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