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  • No coincidences
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 01-18-10
    • 76300

    #1
    Utah +4.5 vs. the Lakers
    Hard not to at least consider this. Third game in as many days for an old team against a Jazz squad opening the season. Kobe and Gasol are already banged up.

    Utah is a mystery, but we know guys like Harris, Milsap and Jefferson can play. Favors and Hayward look like they have bright futures. Will Josh Howard and Jamaal Tinsley make the most of second chances there? Jazz look like they'll be deep; this isn't a playoff team by any stretch of the imagination, but the fact that they're only +4.5 in LA seems to be saying something.

    Thoughts?
  • bringdownthehous
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 02-14-10
    • 622

    #2
    I really like this bet alot..I will be jumping on this line soon, and I also want a play on the ML....these guys are tired..kobes not completely healthy, and guys like mroberts and gasol have been bruisin for the last 2 nights with guys like boozer, noah, cousins, and hayes...now they have to go up against a deep core of big men like jefferson, favors, and millsap..def takin this one
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    • Speedy88
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 03-19-11
      • 11717

      #3
      Don't forget Enes Kanter.

      This game will play out two ways:

      1. Lakers look tired and fatigued because it is their 3rd game in 3 days and Utah beats them.

      2. Lakers are pissed off after starting the season 0-2 and clobber the Jazz.

      This one is a no play for me.
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      • jeffdane
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 09-20-09
        • 5165

        #4
        i agree.

        end of the game kobe looked to be grabbing his wrist a lot. if he plays it wont be much. imo
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        • horseface2721
          SBR Sharp
          • 12-21-11
          • 438

          #5
          love this bet. as a lakers fan i can already tell it is going to be a long way, my book isn't posting it just yet
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          • jeffdane
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 09-20-09
            • 5165

            #6
            what time does 5dimes put the moneylines up?
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            • demens
              SBR MVP
              • 10-22-10
              • 2785

              #7
              I'm still waiting to get a feel for how teams handle b2b2bs. And more importantly a feel for the actual teams. Lots of changes this season and very little go on without a pre-season.
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              • sportfan
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 12-22-09
                • 10111

                #8
                Lakers own the Jazz for many years
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                • Speedy88
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 03-19-11
                  • 11717

                  #9
                  Originally posted by demens
                  I'm still waiting to get a feel for how teams handle b2b2bs. And more importantly a feel for the actual teams. Lots of changes this season and very little go on without a pre-season.
                  About time someone says this. I think everyone is jumping to conclusions to quick on on these b2b2bs. It's not like Sacramento is a 5 hour flight to and from LA. It's just how will their legs hold up. I've already seen that Dexter is auto fading teams on their 3rd game in a row as long as their opponent has at least 1 day rest. I think that is a bit premature since we are yet to see how a team does in b2b2b situation. Lets be patient and see how this all plays out. But last time I checked, the Lakers still have Kobe and Gasol, and the Jazz were not very good last year, and this is in LA (but LA's home crowd sucks)
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                  • Mikail
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 07-19-09
                    • 21689

                    #10
                    Lakers spread or Jazz ML
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                    • horseface2721
                      SBR Sharp
                      • 12-21-11
                      • 438

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Speedy88
                      About time someone says this. I think everyone is jumping to conclusions to quick on on these b2b2bs. It's not like Sacramento is a 5 hour flight to and from LA. It's just how will their legs hold up. I've already seen that Dexter is auto fading teams on their 3rd game in a row as long as their opponent has at least 1 day rest. I think that is a bit premature since we are yet to see how a team does in b2b2b situation. Lets be patient and see how this all plays out. But last time I checked, the Lakers still have Kobe and Gasol, and the Jazz were not very good last year, and this is in LA (but LA's home crowd sucks)
                      great point.
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                      • No coincidences
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 01-18-10
                        • 76300

                        #12
                        Originally posted by demens
                        I'm still waiting to get a feel for how teams handle b2b2bs. And more importantly a feel for the actual teams. Lots of changes this season and very little go on without a pre-season.
                        True, and it doesn't help Utah hasn't played yet and is a mystery team for the most part.

                        Can't see how a B2B2B will do anything but hinder the Lakers, though. Maybe the motivation of getting on the board will cancel that out, but it seems like this would affect them more than almost every other team. Shouldn't this line be like -7 or even -8?
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                        • bringdownthehous
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 02-14-10
                          • 622

                          #13
                          Although I agree that we should wait before jumping to conlusions on the b2b2b2 games, this is more of me fading a reeling lakers team that is clearly feeling the effects of a transition period into a new offense, loss of lamar odom, and a clear need for andrew bynum to be in the lineup...on the flip side, you have a jazz team that is eager to get the season started and sporting a very solidified front court of jefferson, favors, and millsap who will dominate a tired and weakened front court of mroberts, gasol, and ebanks...along with the addition of josh howard, and devin harris getting more accustomed to this team, they should come out hot and with alot more energy
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                          • KnowingNothing
                            SBR Sharp
                            • 04-11-11
                            • 402

                            #14
                            Originally posted by bringdownthehous
                            Although I agree that we should wait before jumping to conlusions on the b2b2b2 games, this is more of me fading a reeling lakers team that is clearly feeling the effects of a transition period into a new offense, loss of lamar odom, and a clear need for andrew bynum to be in the lineup...on the flip side, you have a jazz team that is eager to get the season started and sporting a very solidified front court of jefferson, favors, and millsap who will dominate a tired and weakened front court of mroberts, gasol, and ebanks...along with the addition of josh howard, and devin harris getting more accustomed to this team, they should come out hot and with alot more energy
                            This exactly. Bynum is still out and how much better does it get than Jefferson and Millsap who are experienced Jazz forwards alongside Favors who has settled in and also Kanter.
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                            • blankoblanco
                              SBR MVP
                              • 11-18-11
                              • 3504

                              #15
                              Originally posted by No coincidences
                              Can't see how a B2B2B will do anything but hinder the Lakers, though. Maybe the motivation of getting on the board will cancel that out
                              i think this is what a lot of people think -- that the lakers will be angry and fired up to go grab a win, and that will overcome how fatigued they will be. i don't buy this though. a b2b2b is gonna do a number on their legs from the very start of the game, especially since they're probably not conditioned as well as they would be in other years. and the bad attitude proliferating the lakers right now, largely bc of kobe, doesn't inspire confidence. i see them playing angry, the problem is that they seem more frustrated-angry than motivated-angry, and that doesn't tend to translate well on the court. jazz are a bit of a question mark but what i do know is they've got millsap, al jefferson, and fresh legs

                              i like utah +4.5
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                              • chinoloco212
                                SBR MVP
                                • 03-24-11
                                • 1095

                                #16
                                im a HUGE laker fan, sadly i think they lose this game, they bad without bynum, gasol is still SOFT! so we have to rely on kobe, and some young kids like gaudelock and ebanks.. jazz+4.5 LARGE
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                                • agendaman
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 12-01-11
                                  • 3743

                                  #17
                                  then why are lakers -4.5/as man earlier said lakers own jazz plus they are pissed off anyway /clobber jazz
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                                  • BernardMadoff
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 12-12-09
                                    • 6679

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by agendaman
                                    then why are lakers -4.5/as man earlier said lakers own jazz plus they are pissed off anyway /clobber jazz
                                    They owned Sactown before last night.
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                                    • cleaveland
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 04-04-10
                                      • 1559

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Speedy88
                                      About time someone says this. I think everyone is jumping to conclusions to quick on on these b2b2bs. It's not like Sacramento is a 5 hour flight to and from LA. It's just how will their legs hold up. I've already seen that Dexter is auto fading teams on their 3rd game in a row as long as their opponent has at least 1 day rest. I think that is a bit premature since we are yet to see how a team does in b2b2b situation. Lets be patient and see how this all plays out. But last time I checked, the Lakers still have Kobe and Gasol, and the Jazz were not very good last year, and this is in LA (but LA's home crowd sucks)
                                      You can do research on 1998.
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                                      • Dan Kelly
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 02-19-11
                                        • 1332

                                        #20
                                        This could be a GREAT 2H bet. If the lakers are up > 6 at halftime you should get excellent value for your 2H bet - BUT the books will know that everyone wants to pound Ut in the 2H and the Lakers UNDER in the 2H, no matter the score.
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                                        • showtiime
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 06-16-11
                                          • 2850

                                          #21
                                          on it.
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                                          • PAULYPOKER
                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                            • 12-06-08
                                            • 36581

                                            #22
                                            I'm going with the tired theory,

                                            All 3 teams that played on opening day did not only cover but got worse ATS.........
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                                            • bdevil
                                              Restricted User
                                              • 02-16-10
                                              • 1807

                                              #23
                                              I'm expecting a change of attitude tonight for the Lakers sincerely. Even if with the mess up and 3 games in 3 days, i'm much more afraid of Utah. Still Corbin says he won't reveal the line-up until game time or last practice session, Utah are kinda shy in my vision. The are building their team and can't see them winning their first match against Lakers. I'm on Lakers side, they've got to bounce back and it's the proper time to do it, i hope. Still won't bet large on this match.
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                                              • beerman2619
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 12-24-09
                                                • 7752

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by bdevil
                                                I'm expecting a change of attitude tonight for the Lakers sincerely. Even if with the mess up and 3 games in 3 days, i'm much more afraid of Utah. Still Corbin says he won't reveal the line-up until game time or last practice session, Utah are kinda shy in my vision. The are building their team and can't see them winning their first match against Lakers. I'm on Lakers side, they've got to bounce back and it's the proper time to do it, i hope. Still won't bet large on this match.

                                                I just don't see it back to back to back games just never happen in the NBA till this season. Utah is a young team to begin with. Lakers look terrible without Bynum again tonight. Kobe and Gasol both dealing with injuries just really like the Jazz to cover in this one good luck all.
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                                                • BigDofBA
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 09-30-09
                                                  • 19313

                                                  #25
                                                  I always thought the tired theory was overrated.

                                                  You're telling me world class athletes that play basketball everyday get tired after playing two basketball games in two days that only last a couple of hours??

                                                  Wouldn't these guys get worn out from practicing??

                                                  Give me a break. That get paid to do this for a living.
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                                                  • bringdownthehous
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 02-14-10
                                                    • 622

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by BigDofBA
                                                    I always thought the tired theory was overrated.

                                                    You're telling me world class athletes that play basketball everyday get tired after playing two basketball games in two days that only last a couple of hours??

                                                    Wouldn't these guys get worn out from practicing??

                                                    Give me a break. That get paid to do this for a living.
                                                    Its one thing if their tired or not...but its another that they have to chase around other world class atheletes...YOUNGER** world class athletes...your telling me fisher is gonna be able to guard devin harris??...please...whos gonna even come close to matching up with Al Jefferson?...guys one of the most underrated big man in the league...
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                                                    • bringdownthehous
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 02-14-10
                                                      • 622

                                                      #27
                                                      "Josh McRoberts suffered a sprained left big toe in Monday's loss to the Kings, and finished with two points on 0-for-2 shooting with five rebounds and three assists in 20 minutes.

                                                      X-rays taken on the toe were negative, and all of a sudden the Lakers' frontcourt has disintegrated. If McBob can't go on Tuesday against the Blazers, look for Troy Murphy to try to turn back the clock."


                                                      Via Rotoworld....so with MRoberts hobbled on prob limited minutes....Troy Murphy on Jefferson, Favors, and Millsap....right...........
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                                                      • NardVa
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                                                        • 10-02-07
                                                        • 8325

                                                        #28
                                                        Lakers are playing their 3rd game in a row but they are in basketball sync. Utah has not played one regular season game. I say Lakers jump out early and Utah wins the game in the 4th.
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                                                        • No coincidences
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 01-18-10
                                                          • 76300

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by BigDofBA
                                                          I always thought the tired theory was overrated.

                                                          You're telling me world class athletes that play basketball everyday get tired after playing two basketball games in two days that only last a couple of hours??

                                                          Wouldn't these guys get worn out from practicing??

                                                          Give me a break. That get paid to do this for a living.
                                                          I agree that it's overrated -- but in the Lakers' case, there may be something to it given the age and general shape of their star players (with Kobe and Pau already banged up).
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                                                          • MARVEL
                                                            SBR High Roller
                                                            • 10-02-11
                                                            • 186

                                                            #30
                                                            The jazz have a very good frontline. They have the advantage at point too. They are the fresher team. I jumped on the +4.5 early. This might be a good ML too.
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                                                            • NYSackExchange
                                                              SBR High Roller
                                                              • 11-08-10
                                                              • 109

                                                              #31
                                                              First team to play the third game of a back to back to back. Not touching this one with a 10 foot pole, anything could happen.
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                                                              • bringdownthehous
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 02-14-10
                                                                • 622

                                                                #32
                                                                would people relax with the "oh its the first b2b2b this season"...Im not jumping on this blindly for the sole fact that the lakers are playing for the third straight night that would be absolutely absurd, I don't think anyone here is suggesting that...for example if the heat played the first b2b2b of the season would I bet against them because of that? No, sh^t I'd prolly bet with them cause they look damn good...I'm playing this because the lakers look old, slow, hurt, and without a very key player in bynum...Ive already done enough explaining here how the jazz front court dominates the lakers tonight, no need to go on....but no one here is saying were "taking the jazz just because its a "back-to-back-to-back"
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                                                                • sportfan
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 12-22-09
                                                                  • 10111

                                                                  #33
                                                                  I'd take Lakers , a limping one handed Kobe still beat the Jazz and I'm not seeing Lakers lose 3 in a row starting the season
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                                                                  • bringdownthehous
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 02-14-10
                                                                    • 622

                                                                    #34
                                                                    guys not so good news for utah backers....millsap is now a game time decision, was suppose to be good to go but now is no guarentee...favors is starting, and has had a strong preseason...check back for updates
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                                                                    • szyy604
                                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                                      • 11-07-11
                                                                      • 107

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by bringdownthehous
                                                                      would people relax with the "oh its the first b2b2b this season"...Im not jumping on this blindly for the sole fact that the lakers are playing for the third straight night that would be absolutely absurd, I don't think anyone here is suggesting that...for example if the heat played the first b2b2b of the season would I bet against them because of that? No, sh^t I'd prolly bet with them cause they look damn good...I'm playing this because the lakers look old, slow, hurt, and without a very key player in bynum...Ive already done enough explaining here how the jazz front court dominates the lakers tonight, no need to go on....but no one here is saying were "taking the jazz just because its a "back-to-back-to-back"
                                                                      i completely agree, anyone who thinks b2b2b matters that much to bet it blindly on the opening week of nba is insane. Do you guys realize the flight from LA to sac is like an hour???

                                                                      Your missing the point here, which is that the lakers lost yesterday because they couldn't contain cousins. Plus, sac shot lights out yesterday. So now you have utah, who's playing their first game today. I know millsap is a game time decision, but they SHOULD win the low post battle. favors+millsap+kanter+ okur will beat gasol and mcroberts any day. Bottom line is vegas got this spot on imo. 4.5 is just enough for utah backers to not want to bet utah ats, really close spread and if lakers win i don't think it'll be that close. Much more value taking the utah ML or bet it live
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