John Morrison 2011-12 NBA Thread

**stickbit** · 01-20-12, 08:11 PM

Originally posted by Wallco99

No thanks!

Why no thanks?

**Wallco99** · 01-20-12, 09:55 PM

Originally posted by stickbit

Why no thanks?

I agree.

**jcygts6** · 01-20-12, 10:30 PM

wow 4 point move on the warriors/indy game.... I think I need to take warriors now. Something is going on with that kind of move

**dlunc3** · 01-21-12, 12:46 AM

wowwwwww

anyone watching this indy/gs game?????

**thelimit0310** · 01-21-12, 12:46 AM

Knicks have been terrible lately

**thelimit0310** · 01-21-12, 12:52 AM

JM January 20

V1 INDIANA pk @ Golden State (B) WIN
V3 SACRAMENTO +14 @ San Antonio (A) WIN

RESULTS PER VERSION

Version 1
A: 7-4
B: 2-2
C: 2-0

Version 2
A: 1-2
B: 2-0
C: 0-0

Version 3
A: 9-7
B: 5-2
C: 2-0

Totals
A: 17-13
B: 9-4
C: 4-0

**jcygts6** · 01-21-12, 12:53 AM

As mark jackson would say... "Pants down, Man down!"

**Swan4brownlow** · 01-21-12, 01:33 AM

Another 4 units to the kitty thanks to Wallco's 1-3-5 method

Also thanks to thelimit for posting each days plays!

**J.M. Disciple** · 01-21-12, 05:11 AM

Hey all, just stopping in to say hi. I'm on my phone so can't really scroll through all the pages I missed. Just wondering if Wallco posted back test results for the 1-3-5 strategy. Also how's chase110 doing? I see JM is now 30-0 is that correct? How many units are you up wallco with 1-3-5?

**dratk00l** · 01-21-12, 08:03 AM

Right before the IND game last night my book went to +1.5. Placed a huge wager, having some faith and re-assurance on the B bet. Hope everyone made out alright!

Thanks to thelimit for posting. And to Wallco, of course.
-D

**manutd19** · 01-21-12, 09:05 AM

Thelimit, are you only playing the B & C bets? It seems the A bets are doing well atm. Which is better wallco 1, 3, 5 or thelimit 4 & 6?

**jcygts6** · 01-21-12, 09:43 AM

Do ya'll buy points with the 1,3,5 system

**Valand** · 01-21-12, 10:39 AM

Hi well i have been playing 2 labby lines with 4 numbers A and B/C. But today I divided all my numbers by 9 and split them into 3 lines 4 num A B C. And if I get a D bet im gonna bet to win Cx1.6 losing that bet I will divide the lose by 9.

**patocarranza84** · 01-21-12, 10:56 AM

Pato"s System
28-1 Since I started playing it
Yesterday:
Fade LA Clippers (B) Risk 2.2 units Win
Fade Toronto Raptors Risk 1.1 units (A) Win

Today:
Fade Cleveland Cavaliers (A) Risk 1.1 units

I have back tested my system since the beginning of the year and it goes
(40-1)
A: 25-16
B: 10-6
C: 4-2
D: 1-1

**Wallco99** · 01-21-12, 11:01 AM

Originally posted by jcygts6

Do ya'll buy points with the 1,3,5 system

No, all -110.

**knugen** · 01-21-12, 11:04 AM

can u plz stop post this plays in here, in this thrwad we post JM:s and wallcos system and nothing else

**brih** · 01-21-12, 11:07 AM

is Pato's System listed in SBR forum, did a search and it didn't come. can you let me know? Thanks.

**knugen** · 01-21-12, 11:14 AM

Im sure he can, in a PM or in another thread..

**1gamer** · 01-21-12, 11:14 AM

Originally posted by patocarranza84

Pato"s System 28-1 Since I started playing it Yesterday: Fade LA Clippers (B) Risk 2.2 units Win Fade Toronto Raptors Risk 1.1 units (A) Win Today: Fade Cleveland Cavaliers (A) Risk 1.1 units I have back tested my system since the beginning of the year and it goes (40-1) A: 25-16 B: 10-6 C: 4-2 D: 1-1

You forgot fade the Lakeshow win

**patocarranza84** · 01-21-12, 11:24 AM

The system goes when a team goes under 80 points
you fade them for the next 4 games

**thelimit0310** · 01-21-12, 11:27 AM

Originally posted by manutd19

Thelimit, are you only playing the B & C bets? It seems the A bets are doing well atm. Which is better wallco 1, 3, 5 or thelimit 4 & 6?

Yes in my method I play only Official(!) B and C bets. The 4/6 method I use should actually be 5/7. Thats 5 units on the B bet and net 7 units on the C bet. I am only using 4/6 this season as a means of testing it without giving up as many units if anything unexpected happens.

Currently the 4/6 is outperforming the 1-3-5 method because the 1-3-5 has suffered 2 losses already (they were unofficial), while the 4/6 method is still undefeated. Long term they seem to go about the same give or take a few units.

However my method should really be played at 5/7. And will be played that way starting next season. This way is as of this moment the most profitable way to play the JM NBA system. To compare: last season the 1-3-5 method finished +162 units. Not bad at all, however the 5/7 method finished at +220 last season, about a 60 unit differential.

The A bets are on a win streak, it will even out later in the season, it always does.

**Wallco99** · 01-21-12, 11:27 AM

Wallco NBA Chase 110
2011-12 System to date: 18-0 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +18.00 units (fin. series)
Current open series: 1 (-12.33 units)

(1/20/12):
#18 N.Y. Knicks (M/L) (B) - Loss
#19 Milwaukee (+4½) (A) - Win

v1 Plays
(A) 13-6
(B) 2-4
(C) 2-1
(D) 1-0

V2 Plays
In production

Games for (1/21/12):
#18 Denver @ N.Y. Knicks (+2½) (C) (7:35 pm EST)

We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a zero point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day, if the lines change, but it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from my post. On occasion, we will have plays that go head-head. The system will grade ALL bets, regardless of opponents, how you wish to play these games is your choice.

**thelimit0310** · 01-21-12, 11:29 AM

JM January 21

No Plays

**jcygts6** · 01-21-12, 11:39 AM

I i have question for you the limit, so are those unit amounts from buying the 3 points or just betting the soread for the jm nba system?

**jcygts6** · 01-21-12, 11:40 AM

I i have question for you the limit0310, so are those unit amounts from buying the 3 points or just betting the spread for the jm nba system?

**GGPLAYER** · 01-21-12, 11:56 AM

I wish there was something solid I could tease the Knicks with. They are making my week stressful!

**Sandwich** · 01-21-12, 12:49 PM

Hey theLimit, you mentioned you only play the B&C official bets. I actually had Indiana push yesterday at -3, and was curious on what the rules for the 4/6 or 5/7 method would be, considering a push with no points bought. Really appreciate the new method by the way, thanks for the hard work. BOL

**thelimit0310** · 01-21-12, 01:09 PM

Originally posted by jcygts6

I i have question for you the limit0310, so are those unit amounts from buying the 3 points or just betting the spread for the jm nba system?

The method above is played on the base spread, not buying 3 points. It would not be nearly as profitable played at 3 points bought because the losses would cost significantly more.

**thelimit0310** · 01-21-12, 01:13 PM

Originally posted by Sandwich

Hey theLimit, you mentioned you only play the B&C official bets. I actually had Indiana push yesterday at -3, and was curious on what the rules for the 4/6 or 5/7 method would be, considering a push with no points bought. Really appreciate the new method by the way, thanks for the hard work. BOL

Thanks!

Indiana pushed with me too. I will be playing it as a loss and betting the C bet tomorrow. However I will most likely only bet the amount usually assigned to the B bet. Another great thing about the 5/7 method is, when your unit amount is set correctly (recommended 1% or below) you can take a great deal of losses. The way I'm playing it now, my base roll can take 11 losses without going bust, and that's without any bets winning. Just 11 series losses right from the get go. It is very unlikely such an event would ever happen.

**manutd19** · 01-21-12, 01:17 PM

Thank you thelimit. Wil be nice if you let us know the official bet. I assume you don't play the unofficial bet

**stickbit** · 01-21-12, 02:24 PM

Nice job Pato! Keep em coming!

**1gamer** · 01-21-12, 02:32 PM

Originally posted by stickbit

Nice job Pato! Keep em coming!

A quick backtest of the regular season looks good. But both Cleveland and Atlanta scored less than 80 points last night.

Are you fading ATS or ML?

**Wallco99** · 01-21-12, 02:36 PM

Originally posted by patocarranza84

Pato"s System
28-1 Since I started playing it
Yesterday:
Fade LA Clippers (B) Risk 2.2 units Win
Fade Toronto Raptors Risk 1.1 units (A) Win

Today:
Fade Cleveland Cavaliers (A) Risk 1.1 units

I have back tested my system since the beginning of the year and it goes
(40-1)
A: 25-16
B: 10-6
C: 4-2
D: 1-1

Four teams scored under 80 points yesterday, including Atlanta, which happens to be Cleveland's opponent today. Why are you playing the Cleveland fade and completely ignoring the Atlanta fade?

**stevex** · 01-21-12, 02:56 PM

Why are we bringing another system in here folks?

If you have a new system, start a new thread, just like in the NHL forum.

This isn't a hard thing to do...

**Wallco99** · 01-21-12, 03:09 PM

Originally posted by 1gamer

A quick backtest of the regular season looks good. But both Cleveland and Atlanta scored less than 80 points last night.

Are you fading ATS or ML?

I also did a test of the 2010-11 season for this under 80 points system, I have to admit, it looked pretty good. But keep in mind, that is only 1 season. It went 96-2 for a net profit of +59.12 units. However, I applied the 1/3/5 and 5/7 methods to this system, and both of them did incredible, the 5/7 (+126 units) outperformed the 1/3/5 (+110 units). This is only playing to C bet, and not playing the (A) bets for the 5/7. You may be on to something with this 5/7, Mr. limit. I am going to continue testing 5/7 for other systems. The only problem I see is seasons which may have a large amount of (A) bet wins, especially if they are coupled with more losses, since they are more expensive. This is the one and only time I am mentioning this under 80 points system, I agree with Steve, a new thread is a wise move.