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  • imgv94
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    • 11-16-05
    • 17192

    #1
    PHX -2.5 *SUNS Burn Nets*
    PHOENIX (47-21) AT NEW JERSEY (39-28)

    PHX 108.4 / 101.6
    NJ 93.8 / 93.1

    FG%
    PHX 47.9%
    NJ 44.3%

    FT%
    PHX 81.3%
    NJ 75.5%

    3PT%
    PHX 39.2%
    NJ 33.8%

    PHX vs against Atlantic division opponents 7-1
    NJ vs against Pacific division opponents 4-5

    PHX against non conf foes 20-5
    NJ against non conf foes 13-14

    PHX as a road favorite of 3 points or less 6-1
    ATS & SU

    As you can see the numbers do not lie. NJ just had
    a hard game yesterday vs the Pistons. Do you really
    think NJ is going to beat Pistons and suns on
    back to back nights. That is a tall order. even at
    home. They have been winning alot of nail bitters
    Games that have been hard on them, all that
    catches up with them and they beat a tired beat
    up Nets team!!
  • imgv94
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    • 11-16-05
    • 17192

    #2
    I love the suns!! Damn!!
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    • juuso
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      • 10-04-05
      • 2896

      #3
      I disagree with you buddy. Nets shouldn't be too tired because of b2b, this is only 4th game in 7 days for them and they had 2 days rest before yesterdays game. I just see value in the home team. They were impressive at Detroit yesterday and they are on a 8 game winning streak, playing the best basket they have in the whole season. Nets is a strong home team and i personally rate this pretty much a pick'em game so i will take the 3 points. Good luck anyway.
      Last edited by juuso; 03-27-06, 08:37 AM.
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      • imgv94
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 11-16-05
        • 17192

        #4
        PHX vs against Atlantic division opponents 7-1
        NJ vs against Pacific division opponents 4-5

        If the Nets win this game I will give u credit. for having the
        balls to bet a team that already beat the best team in the NBA
        on the road of all things and have to travel back home the next day
        to face a fast Suns team- with amare back no less. GL
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        • adriano
          SBR MVP
          • 11-10-05
          • 1081

          #5
          i think you shouldn't bet this game at all guys. anything can happen, why gamble?
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          • juuso
            SBR MVP
            • 10-04-05
            • 2896

            #6
            B2B is the factor that is speaking for the Suns, but other than that i really like the Nets. It's true Nets starters played quite big minutes yesterday, but the game tempo was quite low and Nets had 2 days rest before yesterdays game. Line is up to 3.5 and i will wait a little if it goes up even more. I'm willing to take 3 or over anyway.

            Nets are on a 8 game winning streak and is a strong home team with 23-9 SU record at home.

            Suns are 6-4 last 10 straight up and have been all but impressive in recent away games. 1-3 in last 4 away, losing to Portland, Utah and San Antonio. Also Amare is not 100% yet.

            3rd place in west is pretty much sure for the Suns, while Nets are battling for the 3rd place in the east with Cavaliers a half game ahead of them.
            Last edited by juuso; 03-27-06, 09:32 AM.
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            • isetcap
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              • 12-16-05
              • 4006

              #7
              Going up against the Pistons at The Palace and coming out victorious is NEVER an easy night for your starters. You're stretching for valid reasoning if you really think that is the case. Having said that, I'm not in love with the way Phoenix is playing during this stretch and although it may very well pay off in the post season, having Amare back right now is not helping the chemistry this team HAD on offense.

              When I look at the matchups in this game, I see very little opportunity for the Nets to win and if Amare's knee is feeling strong, the Suns will win by 20. So if I had to play this one, it would be with the Suns but the best advice is probably adriano's.
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              • Razz
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 08-22-05
                • 5632

                #8
                Originally posted by isetcap
                although it may very well pay off in the post season, having Amare back right now is not helping the chemistry this team HAD on offense.
                This is a great point.
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                • Dark Horse
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                  • 12-14-05
                  • 13764

                  #9
                  Nets are peaking right now. They look to be in a battle for home court with CLE (should they meet in the playoffs).

                  Suns have little to play for here. Their focus is on getting ready for the playoffs with Amare.

                  Suns are excellent on the road and they may run away with this, but the motivation arrow points at the Nets.
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                  • The Great One
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 02-08-06
                    • 792

                    #10
                    Originally posted by imgv94
                    I love the suns!! Damn!!

                    Should I play this? The last three times I've played one of your picks, I've lost?


                    If I win my tennis parlay, I'll take a chance on it. Hard to go against the Suns right now.
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                    • imgv94
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 11-16-05
                      • 17192

                      #11
                      Originally posted by The Great One
                      Should I play this? The last three times I've played one of your picks, I've lost?


                      If I win my tennis parlay, I'll take a chance on it. Hard to go against the Suns right now.
                      I have been losing NCAA tourney games that alot
                      of pros stay away from. Nova killed me twice. I really
                      like the Suns and line movement is great for anyone
                      who took advantage @ -2.5
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                      • nolovenodie
                        SBR Hustler
                        • 01-19-06
                        • 56

                        #12
                        Originally posted by imgv94
                        I have been losing NCAA tourney games that alot
                        of pros stay away from. Nova killed me twice. I really
                        like the Suns and line movement is great for anyone
                        who took advantage @ -2.5
                        sup sup img....

                        too bad i didn't get it at -2.5, now it's like -3.5 ...is it still ok to take it?

                        Good luck today bro...I really hope you win today and get back in action.....

                        Thanks again bro
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                        • Razz
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                          • 08-22-05
                          • 5632

                          #13
                          NLN, if you can still get 3.5, go ahead and take it. It's 4 almost everywhere now.
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                          • nolovenodie
                            SBR Hustler
                            • 01-19-06
                            • 56

                            #14
                            thanks razz
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                            • hanco21
                              SBR MVP
                              • 01-19-06
                              • 3414

                              #15
                              Suns are shooting 27%. Looks like they are at half speed, pathetic effort.
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                              • imgv94
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 11-16-05
                                • 17192

                                #16
                                Suns shooting 25% WTF? Suns need to wake the fvck up!!
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                                • hanco21
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                                  • 01-19-06
                                  • 3414

                                  #17
                                  Looks like everyone is betting the over in the 2nd half (over 101.5). Looks like a winner to me.
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                                  • hanco21
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 01-19-06
                                    • 3414

                                    #18
                                    Are you kidding me 79-38. Thats an a$$ kicking. Whats the spread at the end of 3. Nets by -45.5.
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                                    • David
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 08-11-05
                                      • 875

                                      #19
                                      I guess it's not a good idea to bet against the Nets.
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                                      • imgv94
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 11-16-05
                                        • 17192

                                        #20
                                        I am taking a break. This is crazy. WOW!! Sorry for sucking so much
                                        lately.
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                                        • Lucas
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 12-20-05
                                          • 1062

                                          #21
                                          Now is everybody smart. Thank god I hedged it 2 minutes before the start when the line moved against Nets.
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                                          • goldengoat
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 11-25-05
                                            • 3239

                                            #22
                                            i didn't bet it thank god but had suns on the bowmans pickem

                                            very shocking to me that they no showed

                                            suns have been in all games i think besides this 1 and 1 other earlier this year

                                            i think they rebounded after their last no show

                                            http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/recap?gid=2006011723 (their last no show)
                                            Last edited by goldengoat; 03-27-06, 09:37 PM.
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                                            • Razz
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                                              • 08-22-05
                                              • 5632

                                              #23
                                              Holy shit.
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                                              • kgrock
                                                SBR High Roller
                                                • 01-25-06
                                                • 165

                                                #24
                                                usually when the public likes a team like they did phoenix(check wagerline.com) its a trap and most of them will lose more often than not, so that was a dangerous play for anyone picking the suns
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                                                • goldengoat
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                                                  • 11-25-05
                                                  • 3239

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by kgrock
                                                  usually when the public likes a team like they did phoenix(check wagerline.com) its a trap and most of them will lose more often than not, so that was a dangerous play for anyone picking the suns

                                                  i'm not sure i buy that

                                                  i think people just point it out more when it happens
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                                                  • kgrock
                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                    • 01-25-06
                                                    • 165

                                                    #26
                                                    the truth is the books win more than the public does so its better to fade the public
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                                                    • goldengoat
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 11-25-05
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by kgrock
                                                      the truth is the books win more than the public does so its better to fade the public
                                                      the odds are in the books favor though
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                                                      • The Great One
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 02-08-06
                                                        • 792

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by imgv94
                                                        I am taking a break. This is crazy. WOW!! Sorry for sucking so much
                                                        lately.

                                                        Man, you fuc kin suck. geeze, Nice freakin pick.



















                                                        We've all been there. But I can't beleive how that game went. It seems every team will have a couple of those a season. Thats the NBA for you. They could play again tomorrow night and the Suns would probably win by 9.
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                                                        • kgrock
                                                          SBR High Roller
                                                          • 01-25-06
                                                          • 165

                                                          #29
                                                          well the line was set at -2.5 last night and the public jumped all over it, but it was a trap to entice them and consequently the line moved up to -4

                                                          really no respect showed to the nets who are on fire already beating detroit and how is a good team at a home listed as a underdog

                                                          I'm glad i didn't wager on this game, I know a lot of ppl lost a shitload of money on this
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                                                          • kgrock
                                                            SBR High Roller
                                                            • 01-25-06
                                                            • 165

                                                            #30
                                                            Yeah the odds are in the books favor considering you wager 110 to win 100, but I'm just taking strictly the lines that are set, if the public jumps all over one side, its better to go against them
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                                                            • goldengoat
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 11-25-05
                                                              • 3239

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by kgrock
                                                              well the line was set at -2.5 last night and the public jumped all over it, but it was a trap to entice them and consequently the line moved up to -4

                                                              really no respect showed to the nets who are on fire already beating detroit and how is a good team at a home listed as a underdog

                                                              I'm glad i didn't wager on this game, I know a lot of ppl lost a shitload of money on this
                                                              ok i see what you are saying
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                                                              • The Great One
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 02-08-06
                                                                • 792

                                                                #32
                                                                I just think the NBA is by far the hardest sport to get a consistant feel on. This game tonight is proof of that. Like I stated above, if they played tomorrow, Phoenix would probably win.

                                                                This same kind of thing happened to the Pacers/Clippers earlirt this year. Two lopsided victories. One by each team. Rarely happens in any other sport.
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                                                                • Lucas
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                                                                  • 12-20-05
                                                                  • 1062

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Anyway, I think it was a good pick. The line was moving in it´s direction, so that is proof of good pick. I do not agree with kgrock. Bookies know why they shift their lines, the lines are moving because some line is weak. For example Pinnacle has database of all their clients and if they have positive history (they were winners-sharps) and they bet on some event, the line is moving much more than in case of public bettor. Pinnacle was the first line mover at this match (close to the begin it was somwhere between -4.5 and -5 @ Suns). So this line movement was product of sharps (probably also public).
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                                                                  • imgv94
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                                                                    • 11-16-05
                                                                    • 17192

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Yeah This game was B.S. Sorry
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                                                                    • Razz
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                                                                      • 08-22-05
                                                                      • 5632

                                                                      #35
                                                                      I'm concerned about a trap when the public is all over one side, and the line doesn't move, or moves the other way. When the line moves, I don't really give it a second thought.
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