this clown back "goat milk" fade the fuk him all the way 20000$ dallas ml thats it

[NBA_Brosuf]

there is no fixing in nba i hate when every one saying that..

Not at all? Not even one little tiny bit?

Stats once again don't lie. A ref went under investigation for the Kings/lakers 2002 final. what's his name?

Read more about it

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3436401

[No coincidences]

I would expect it to be exactly where its at (-150ish) because the books know who's gonna win this series, and they're not naive to overreact over 1 game. they understand its a 7 game series and they're not giving any cheap prices on the heat to win the series. If they were leaning Dallas Miami would be more like -120 in my opinion.

The price dictates that the books think Miami will win 2/3 in Dallas I think. If they thought Dallas would win 2/3 the price would be -120ish. Last year when the Lakers lost game 5 and went down 3-2 they were still -115 to win the series. If Miami goes down 3-2 I see them being in that +100 range as well....

So Miami would go from -180 to win the series before it started to -120 based on one game when there are still potentially five left to play? That makes zero sense.

I couldn't care less what the Lakers were in Game 5 after they were down 3-2 -- what were they in Game 3 when it was 1-1? And what were they at the start of the series? Why do you keep comparing that series to this one?

[suicidekings]

I would expect it to be exactly where its at (-150ish) because the books know who's gonna win this series, and they're not naive to overreact over 1 game. they understand its a 7 game series and they're not giving any cheap prices on the heat to win the series. If they were leaning Dallas Miami would be more like -120 in my opinion.

The price dictates that the books think Miami will win 2/3 in Dallas I think. If they thought Dallas would win 2/3 the price would be -120ish. Last year when the Lakers lost game 5 and went down 3-2 they were still -115 to win the series. If Miami goes down 3-2 I see them being in that +100 range as well....

Actually, the series price after Game 2 was re-released at Pinnacle in the -125 range and heavy action on Miami has pushed it back up to where it is now (-150).

[suicidekings]

So Miami would go from -180 to win the series before it started to -120 based on one game when there are still potentially five left to play? That makes zero sense.

I couldn't care less what the Lakers were in Game 5 after they were down 3-2 -- what were they in Game 3 when it was 1-1? And what were they at the start of the series? Why do you keep comparing that series to this one?

To follow on this, as I mentioned elsewhere, before last season, the home team was 5-1 in Finals Game 3 over the previous 6 years. Over 10 years they were 5-5. What makes last season so special?

[Goat Milk]

So Miami would go from -180 to win the series before it started to -120 based on one game when there are still potentially five left to play? That makes zero sense.

I couldn't care less what the Lakers were in Game 5 after they were down 3-2 -- what were they in Game 3 when it was 1-1? And what were they at the start of the series? Why do you keep comparing that series to this one?

I can't remember what they were in game 3. There's a ton of similarities with these two series as far as the matchups are concerned and the coaching aspects. That's why I keep comparing. Suicide just confirmed it went to -125 and got pounded so it does make sense.

Actually, the series price after Game 2 was re-released at Pinnacle in the -125 range and heavy action on Miami has pushed it back up to where it is now (-150).

Thanks well now you know where the sharp money is.

[No coincidences]

I can't remember what they were in game 3. There's a ton of similarities with these two series as far as the matchups are concerned and the coaching aspects. That's why I keep comparing. Suicide just confirmed it went to -125 and got pounded so it does make sense.



Thanks well now you know where the sharp money is.

Matchups? How so? And coaching? Who is the Erik Spoelstra of that equation?

[No coincidences]

I guess I'm not surprised at all that the series price is where it is, or that sharp money is on Miami to win the whole thing at a relatively affordable price. I'm also not saying that's mutually exclusive to this game -- which is a toss-up in my mind -- but I also don't think it gives any hints about what is necessarily going to happen tonight either.

I think we can all agree Miami will probably win either Game 3 or Game 4 -- I just think sharp bettors are taking the Heat series price right now just in case the Heat win the former rather than the latter and the series price goes back up again.

[Goat Milk]

Matchups? How so? And coaching? Who is the Erik Spoelstra of that equation?

I said that Doc Rivers was the better coach with adjustments than Jackson and I see Carlisle the same way. THat's why I gave the Mavs a good shot to win game 2 because as i quoted "they are the more cerebral team" and that's why I may take them in game 4, because that switches back to a coaches game. To answer suicide when I look at the matchups of the last 10 years in the finals I can't find two teams with similar matchups. The Lakers had a horrible bench last year save Odom (I.e. Haslem- similar contributions, one stresses defense a bit more). Boston had the more complete, well-rounded team, better depth (bench), and some aging hall of famers (Kidd, Dirk). Miami is the better defensive team just like the Lakers were. Boston was great defensively as the Mavs were (in terms of team defense), but they just didn't have the athleticism to keep up with the Lakers, and win the rebounding battle. I consider Wade and Lebron both bigs when it comes to rebounding in a finals series and I think we'll see that tonight. I would rather take a 6'4 Wade tonight on the rebounds that a 6'7 sean Marion.

The styles are not so different either. You saw last year that the games Boston won, they tried to force the tempo and not let the Lakers get set defensively because they were so long and athletic. Its the same gameplan here for the Mavs, who I believe will struggle offensively tonight.

I just see a lot of similarities between the well roundedness of the mavs and the superstar veterans of the Heat (i.e. bryant, gasol). There are obviously lots of differences too but I see game 3 and games 4 playing out in similar fashion.

[No coincidences]

I said that Doc Rivers was the better coach with adjustments than Jackson and I see Carlisle the same way. THat's why I gave the Mavs a good shot to win game 2 because as i quoted "they are the more cerebral team" and that's why I may take them in game 4, because that switches back to a coaches game. To answer suicide when I look at the matchups of the last 10 years in the finals I can't find two teams with similar matchups. The Lakers had a horrible bench last year save Odom (I.e. Haslem- similar contributions, one stresses defense a bit more). Boston had the more complete, well-rounded team, better depth (bench), and some aging hall of famers (Kidd, Dirk). Miami is the better defensive team just like the Lakers were. Boston was great defensively as the Mavs were (in terms of team defense), but they just didn't have the athleticism to keep up with the Lakers, and win the rebounding battle. I consider Wade and Lebron both bigs when it comes to rebounding in a finals series and I think we'll see that tonight. I would rather take a 6'4 Wade tonight on the rebounds that a 6'7 sean Marion.

The styles are not so different either. You saw last year that the games Boston won, they tried to force the tempo and not let the Lakers get set defensively because they were so long and athletic. Its the same gameplan here for the Mavs, who I believe will struggle offensively tonight.

I just see a lot of similarities between the well roundedness of the mavs and the superstar veterans of the Heat (i.e. bryant, gasol)

I sort of see what you're saying, but I think it's dangerous to use that in capping this game or series. There is also no comparison to Spoelstra, who is in over his head and, relative to the NBA Finals, a virtual deer in headlights. You better hope this game doesn't come down to 1-2 possessions at the very end.

I don't necessarily disagree with your Heat bet -- I would take Dallas personally, but I'm only playing the under and wouldn't be surprised at all if Miami wins. I just find some of your reasoning fascinating.

[suicidekings]

I can't remember what they were in game 3. There's a ton of similarities with these two series as far as the matchups are concerned and the coaching aspects. That's why I keep comparing. Suicide just confirmed it went to -125 and got pounded so it does make sense.

Thanks well now you know where the sharp money is.

Pure speculation. It doesn't take a sharp to hit Miami at a more affordable price, considering they were -350 prior to game 2. There are Miami backers of all different types.

[No coincidences]

Pure speculation. It doesn't take a sharp to hit Miami at a more affordable price, considering they were -350 prior to game 2. There are Miami backers of all different types.

Miami series is the No. 1 public bet at Sportsbook.com right now.

[BetterBizness]

F this... I'm putting 20 Mil on each side and guaranteeing victory!

[suicidekings]

Miami series is the No. 1 public bet at Sportsbook.com right now.

Not really that telling at this point either. Miami is backed heavily by the public all the time...

[GTS925]

Worst airbet ever!

[GoBlue23]

Why don't you two just fade each other and place your wager with me so I can collect some vig. No limit.