Is Dirk Nowitzki the Best Shooter the NBA Has Ever Seen?

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  • Eating Bookies
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 01-04-11
    • 710

    #36
    He has the height advantage
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    • NYSportsGuy210
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 11-07-09
      • 11347

      #37
      Originally posted by ManBearPig
      Career TS% (Active and Retired)
      Checkout the complete list of NBA & ABACareer Leaders and Records for and more on Basketball-Reference.com


      Career EFG% (Active and Retired)


      Mind you this will include those who camp around the basket and get a lot of 3' ftrs but you can easily distinguish who's who...there are some surprising on the list.
      Again....according to this list, Dirk is higher than Ray Allen in career true FG%. Dirk's mechanics are flawless though.
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      • rsnnh12
        SBR MVP
        • 09-26-10
        • 3487

        #38
        Originally posted by NYSportsGuy210
        Again....according to this list, Dirk is higher than Ray Allen in career true FG%. Dirk's mechanics are flawless though.
        It also has Shaq higher than both
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        • NYSportsGuy210
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 11-07-09
          • 11347

          #39
          Dirk is the truth that's all I know. Turning into the Charles Barkley/Karl Malone of the new millenium unless he can get a ring on his finger this year.
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          • PlatinumBerg
            SBR MVP
            • 03-01-10
            • 1058

            #40
            Dirk is a good shooter, and being 7 foot tall gives him a huge advantage. I never understood why more 7 footers don't try to develop a shot like Dirk. It seems like there is a unwritten rule that if you are 7 feet tall, you can only develop your game "down-low" and you should leave the shooting to the guards...
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            • NYSportsGuy210
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 11-07-09
              • 11347

              #41
              It's cause what Dirk does takes a certain level of skill and God given talent. He was already a terrific shooter as a youth and only honed his skills later on as he developed in life. Most 7 footers don't have that gift to begin with.
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              • moses27
                SBR MVP
                • 03-01-09
                • 1190

                #42
                hell yeah
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                • VTranX
                  SBR MVP
                  • 02-02-10
                  • 1975

                  #43
                  Originally posted by NYSportsGuy210
                  According to this list, Dirk is higher than Ray Allen in career true FG%.
                  Dirk is a PF/C he will can gets shot in the post (higher percentage) which would obviously reflect on his FG%. Ray allen is a pure shooter. Hr will drive ounce in a while but his true strength comes from his stroke. Ray Allen is a better shooter no doubt about it.
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                  • ManBearPig
                    SBR MVP
                    • 12-04-08
                    • 2473

                    #44
                    Remember those lists I posted include everyone of all types so it doesn't take into account height/position/quality of team or other factors that go into it. I mean Shaq is #1 in EFG% but no one would go as far to say that he is one of the top shooters of all-time.

                    This is why these lists are almost impossible to nail down because unless you define a set of parameters to make said list you could come up with a multitude of reasons to fit a player in to the discussion. I believe it comes down to more than stats, there are intangibles that make great shooters...like their ability to come off screens and get that hint of daylight...watch Ray Allen or Rip Hamilton, they were masters. Dirk could doesn't have to be great coming off screens...he's 7' tall so it's much easier to get a shot off. The measurables are only part of the equation.

                    I think that's why you have to respect Ray Allen and Reggie Miller's shooting ability...they are afterall 1 & 2 in career 3-pointers. Hell even Jason Kidd could be considered a good shooter as he's #3 all-time 3's.
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                    • meckis
                      SBR Sharp
                      • 06-08-09
                      • 438

                      #45
                      Dirk is on the best shooters ever, and with his height adavantage all teams have a lot of problems in defense, they have rebuild their defense because no team has shooter like this in pf and that creates more problems. Really good player and he deserves a ring.
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                      • NYSportsGuy210
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 11-07-09
                        • 11347

                        #46
                        Originally posted by VTranX
                        Dirk is a PF/C he will can gets shot in the post (higher percentage) which would obviously reflect on his FG%. Ray allen is a pure shooter. Hr will drive ounce in a while but his true strength comes from his stroke. Ray Allen is a better shooter no doubt about it.

                        Obviously you haven't seen Nowitzki play with that statement.
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                        • politicin
                          Restricted User
                          • 01-14-11
                          • 1647

                          #47
                          Originally posted by BrewVegas
                          Uhhhhhh Ray Allen anyone?
                          Pretty much this.

                          Greatest shooting 4 is arguable right up there with Bird only.
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                          • VTranX
                            SBR MVP
                            • 02-02-10
                            • 1975

                            #48
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                            • St8Ca$homie
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                              • 04-07-11
                              • 161

                              #49
                              NO
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                              • NYSportsGuy210
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 11-07-09
                                • 11347

                                #50
                                Dirk 8 of 9 FG in first half so far in game 1 of Western Conference Playoffs.

                                Just sayin....
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                                • TheLock
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 04-06-08
                                  • 14427

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by NYSportsGuy210
                                  Night in and night out this guy has the most accurate shot I have EVER SEEN in the last 20 years. He has led the Mavericks to 11 straight 50+ win seasons too. That high arcing J-shot is so pretty too. I have only been watching the NBA since 1992 but I have to tell you....I have seen Michael Jordan, Reggie Miller, Mitch Richmond, Tim Hardaway, Peja Stojakivic (Kings days)....this guy hands down can knock down a jumper ANYWHERE ON THE COURT more consistently better than any of these guys.

                                  Anyone disagree or agree with me?


                                  Hi.

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                                  • DemoralizdDreamr
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 02-04-11
                                    • 4319

                                    #52
                                    SO SEXY!!!!
                                    that shot is just mmmm.....
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                                    • SportsPedagogy
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 02-13-11
                                      • 3691

                                      #53
                                      Dirk is having a good game, but lets stay level here. Also, alot of names and Kerr has only been mentioned once :/
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                                      • lakerboy
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 04-02-09
                                        • 94379

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by TheLock





                                        LMAO - he had so many other guys to get attn unlike Dirk. Bird played in the scoring era. Dirk is a better shooter than Bird.
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                                        • politicin
                                          Restricted User
                                          • 01-14-11
                                          • 1647

                                          #55
                                          Great game, but still no. 20 for 20 ftl is always juicy though.
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                                          • rsnnh12
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 09-26-10
                                            • 3487

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by SportsPedagogy
                                            Dirk is having a good game, but lets stay level here. Also, alot of names and Kerr has only been mentioned once :/
                                            This. One amazing game doesn't make someone the greatest ever. He's easily top 5, prob top 3, but I can't put him ahead of Bird and RayRay
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                                            • rsnnh12
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 09-26-10
                                              • 3487

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by lakerboy


                                              LMAO - he had so many other guys to get attn unlike Dirk. Bird played in the scoring era. Dirk is a better shooter than Bird.
                                              You're right, no one else on the Mavs gets attention

                                              Except Kidd, Terry, Peja, etc etc etc

                                              There's a reason this Mavs TEAM dominated the Lakers
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                                              • HustleGetPaid
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 10-28-09
                                                • 1199

                                                #58
                                                Best pure shooter is Ray Allen, Dirk is close tho...
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                                                • NYSportsGuy210
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 11-07-09
                                                  • 11347

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by rsnnh12
                                                  This. One amazing game doesn't make someone the greatest ever. He's easily top 5, prob top 3, but I can't put him ahead of Bird and RayRay

                                                  One amazing game? Wow....clearly you do not watch a lot of NBA. Why would I write a post about a guy who had ONE AMAZING game?

                                                  Once again my pallet for NBA talent goes justified.....Dirk is the truth.
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                                                  • lakerboy
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 04-02-09
                                                    • 94379

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by rsnnh12
                                                    You're right, no one else on the Mavs gets attention

                                                    Except Kidd, Terry, Peja, etc etc etc

                                                    There's a reason this Mavs TEAM dominated the Lakers
                                                    Ur comparing those guys to mchale/parrish/dj and ainge among others? LOL
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                                                    • rsnnh12
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 09-26-10
                                                      • 3487

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                      Ur comparing those guys to mchale/parrish/dj and ainge among others? LOL
                                                      I'm not comparing them... you said Dirk gets all of the attention, and that's completely false. Hell, how many double-teams did he face tonight? Very very few, because there are so many other weapons on that team
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                                                      • rsnnh12
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 09-26-10
                                                        • 3487

                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by NYSportsGuy210
                                                        One amazing game? Wow....clearly you do not watch a lot of NBA. Why would I write a post about a guy who had ONE AMAZING game?

                                                        Once again my pallet for NBA talent goes justified.....Dirk is the truth.
                                                        You bumped this thread because of one amazing game. Clearly that's what I was talking about. Did I bump this thread when Ray lit it up? Or any other great shooter? No, because they all have great games.

                                                        And LOL at your "pallet" for NBA talent... who the hell didn't have Dirk as one of the best in the league?
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                                                        • NYSportsGuy210
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 11-07-09
                                                          • 11347

                                                          #63
                                                          Oh....there's another AMAZING GAME.....
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                                                          • Goat Milk
                                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                            • 03-24-10
                                                            • 25850

                                                            #64
                                                            you should bump the thread JJ Gold made where he said Dirk is not a winner. Guy is a monster.
                                                            Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                                                            • NYSportsGuy210
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 11-07-09
                                                              • 11347

                                                              #65
                                                              Since he came in the league he has been hitting shots left and right.....guy gets no love.
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                                                              • NYSportsGuy210
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 11-07-09
                                                                • 11347

                                                                #66
                                                                Second finals appearance in five years....hit a money three under 2:00 to seal it for Dallas. Wow....
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                                                                • SportsPedagogy
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 02-13-11
                                                                  • 3691

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by NYSportsGuy210
                                                                  Second finals appearance in five years....hit a money three under 2:00 to seal it for Dallas. Wow....
                                                                  Come on man, he missed the first one, and was lucky his team got the rebound. What if OKC got it and won the game ? Would you have considered him choking ? I think Dirk is a great player, but people are getting carried away with the "Insert Name is the best INSERT TALENT Ever !!" Threads
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                                                                  • dynamite140
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                                                                    • 07-05-08
                                                                    • 4958

                                                                    #68
                                                                    dan majerle

                                                                    Ello
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                                                                    • NYSportsGuy210
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 11-07-09
                                                                      • 11347

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by SportsPedagogy
                                                                      Come on man, he missed the first one, and was lucky his team got the rebound. What if OKC got it and won the game ? Would you have considered him choking ? I think Dirk is a great player, but people are getting carried away with the "Insert Name is the best INSERT TALENT Ever !!" Threads

                                                                      Great another hater.....
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                                                                      • SportsPedagogy
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 02-13-11
                                                                        • 3691

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by NYSportsGuy210


                                                                        Great another hater.....
                                                                        Is that how it is ? Either hate or worship ?
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