Here's a newsflash, Bulls doubters...

GAMBLOR777 · 04-19-11, 01:32 AM

Let me guess, you were all over the cavs last year at this point

chantrain · 04-19-11, 01:34 AM

Bulls = Cavs, that's your argument? Because its a poor one

Bulls are demonstrably not the Cavs. I know this because they have different players, a different coach and a different team name

FindTheLock · 04-19-11, 01:43 AM

8 on 5 against the 8th seed in the east barely squeezing out single digit wins on your home court with home cooking in the oven. Take off those homer glasses and smell what the refs are cooking. This series could very well be 2-0 the other way and the pacers are the worst team that made the playoffs. I am not a bulls hater, but I can tell you one thing, the bulls are not who you thought they were, and The refs let them off the hook.

chantrain · 04-19-11, 01:44 AM

oh PLEASE, its the same old "refs" argument, not even going to dignify that with a real response.

Bulls win so it must be the refs, OF COURSE....smh

Avenger · 04-19-11, 01:46 AM

Dude, too many people bet on Bulls winning the whole thing. You think Vegas is going to pay out all those winners?

It has nothing to do with skill. NOTHING. C'mon man, look at the past few days, you can't tell me this is a regular playoff year.

Once MJ said Rose was his MVP and everyone got on Thib's you-know-what about his great defense and COY, it was ALL OVER for the Bulls. It's got square written all over it.

FindTheLock · 04-19-11, 01:47 AM

ask anyone who isn't a bulls fan. Any non biased observer. I mean of course as long as your team is winning and getting those calls late in the games it's ok with you, but if that phantom offensive foul was called against the bulls, or if the refs called that push in the back out of bounds in crunch time against the bulls, the only time when refs can permanently impact the game. Then you wouldn't be ok with those calls either.

chantrain · 04-19-11, 01:49 AM

Originally posted by FindTheLock

ask anyone who isn't a bulls fan. Any non biased observer. I mean of course as long as your team is winning and getting those calls late in the games it's ok with you, but if that phantom offensive foul was called against the bulls, or if the refs called that push in the back out of bounds in crunch time against the bulls, the only time when refs can permanently impact the game. Then you wouldn't be ok with those calls either.

I have seen many peoples opinions on tonights game, many non-bulls fans are not blaming the refs, infact many are saying there were poor calls but poor calls on both teams, so no clear advantage.

I really hate when people complain about the refs so can we move on to a different topic? it really pisses me off when people whine about reffing.

refs are crap but they're ALWAYS crap and they make crappy calls for both teams

FindTheLock · 04-19-11, 01:52 AM

The NBA is a joke. I love the sport of basketball, but I do not like the way the NBA runs their front office. I say the same thing about the celtics ending and the thunder ending too. It isn't just the Bulls, it's the entire NBA...

chantrain · 04-19-11, 01:56 AM

the refs did not decide this game....

kobstopa · 04-19-11, 02:00 AM

well, it shouldn't be a surprise that they'll loss one on the road in either G3 or G4. The pacers is closing in, they had used inside foul quiet effective on Noah today.

The Pacers can be tough at home in these coming games.
I think the future line will be more sharper than it is now as the game is getting closer within 4 to 7 points margin.

FindTheLock · 04-19-11, 02:04 AM

so that hibbert dunk getting taken off the board and the loss of possession inside of the final minute in a single possession game had no effect on the final outcome? How about the offensive foul called on Carmello? Then on Bostons "trip" down the court Garnett sticks his foot out to free allen on the screen leveling the knicks defender is a no call? That game winning shot being wide open didn't effect the game either did it? Come back down to earth. I was an official for basketball and football when I was 16-19 years old, so I know how hard it is to call a perfect game. But some of these calls are just too obvious not to point out. The refs severely impacted the ending of this game and many others in the past. Seems like a lot of times people want to throw a foil cap on anyone who points out the obvious. Swallowing the whistle one way and blowing it on phantom calls the other is just downright nasty business.

chantrain · 04-19-11, 02:06 AM

what about the refs calling D.Rose for fouling of a 3 point shooter late in the game? that doesnt fit into your agenda of arguing that the refs are in bulls favor, does it?

That made up for that uncalled hibbert and 1.

refs have been shit but theyve been shit in an unbiased way

D.Rose had 4 fouls...

FindTheLock · 04-19-11, 02:11 AM

Have you ever been a ref before? If you have then you would know how easy it is to Dr up a game. You have to call that foul because the guy is an NBA shooter who shot an air ball because Rose smacked his arm. That's not a make up call that's a legitimate foul on a 3 point shooter. lol I'm not the one with the agenda. the bulls have a nice market and having them progress in the playoffs is good for the NBA. Hell I even like the bulls so I am not saying this out of hate or because I lost money. I've been taking the points following the trend and it has been working out so far. I am not bitter I am just making logical observations. There is no agenda a foul is a foul is a foul and it should be called the same way for both teams no matter how much time is left on the clock.

chantrain · 04-19-11, 02:13 AM

so what are you saying exactly, that Bulls will win every game but will never cover? I need to write this down for my bets tomorrow. You seem to have all the answers

tbizzle2 · 04-19-11, 02:15 AM

Indiana provides a tough matchup for the bulls, thats all. They are long but the bulls will win in 5. I think the bulls match up alot better against the other teams in the east like the celtics and heat. But the pacers and hawks who we could see soon provide a length issue for us. As a bulls fan i took the pacers in game 1 and 2 because they always play close games and im interested to see the game 3 line because the bulls are awful at indiana the last ten years ats.

FindTheLock · 04-19-11, 02:18 AM

I am not saying any such thing. I am just following trends and watching the games. So far the dogs have been howling. So if you go by that logic then howl along with them. To me I just want to see a fairly officiated game that doesn't leave so many causal observers crying foul. I just want to see basketball played the way it is supposed to be played and the better team winning because they earned it. I hate watching the stuff that went down in the final minute of this game. Even the announcers were calling BS on those calls!

chantrain · 04-19-11, 02:19 AM

I tried to go with the "dogs" theory too, but then the Heat blew out the hapless 76ers and my bet got screwed

wtf, i say.

FindTheLock · 04-19-11, 02:22 AM

I took heat 1H, but then I took 6ers +9.5 for the game. Paid the juice, but I got the heat 1H juiced at -105 so it wasn't as bad as it could've been. Just a bad time to bet on that dog. So far the majority of the dogs have covered the number with ease. Some even winning the games outright. Grizz and hornets

tbizzle2 · 04-19-11, 02:23 AM

you gotta love sports conspiracy theories.

Avenger · 04-19-11, 02:29 AM

Dude, how can you say conspiracy theory, ESPN has two front page stories on it!

tbizzle2 · 04-19-11, 02:41 AM

I'm not seein that anywhere. I think if you look at the game from either side there are non calls everywhere.

GAMBLOR777 · 04-19-11, 04:07 AM

tbizzle, chantrain, it's people like you that allow David Stern to get away with daylight robbery every single day of the NBA season.