Celtics will not win another championship without Perkins

beerman2619 · 02-24-11, 04:26 PM

Yeah kind of thought that was the reason they lost last year in the finals no Perkins. This guy is tough damn good center. Really surprised by this move by Boston.

Bradyd · 02-24-11, 04:46 PM

Lots of overreaction on this board.

1. Perkins isn't the key to the championship for Boston. There defense is good with or without him. Boston didn't lose to LA because of Perkins. A contributing factor was them having to reshuffle their roster in a short period of time. But they lost because they couldn't get a basket to save their life when it counted. Sure Boston was out rebounded, but that has nothing to do with their ability to hit a freakin shot!!

2. Howard has a limited offensive game, one on one coverage is all that is needed for him.

3. And lastly, Perkins was valuable to an extent. But how many talented offensive centers are there in the league?? I havent seen many destroy Boston without Perkins.. And if Boston championship hopes relied on Perkins, than Boston was never a championship contender to begin with...

vyomguy · 02-24-11, 04:51 PM

Boston's veteran players are furious over this trade.

Taka · 02-24-11, 05:24 PM

I hope boston does not protest this trade by intentionaly not playing well tonight

Whippit · 02-24-11, 05:30 PM

time to exit the time machine, pal....this team ain't won since 07

lunchbawks · 02-24-11, 05:36 PM

Originally posted by vyomguy

Boston's veteran players are furious over this trade.

Which boston celtic isn't a veteran?

Get my point?

hawley · 02-24-11, 05:36 PM

Originally posted by lunchbawks

Which boston celtic isn't a veteran?

Get my point?

Rondo

DemoralizdDreamr · 02-24-11, 06:07 PM

This team just gets bigger and bigger. They might be lacking guys to strech the floor, ray allen and PP are their only legit outside shooters. Maybe Nate but he plays limited minutes.

HCBoone · 02-24-11, 06:13 PM

This thread is pointless. Celtics can beat any team with or without Perkins. Crazy deal, but it wont make them a bad team who wont compete for a championship.

vyomguy · 02-24-11, 06:17 PM

Originally posted by HCBoone

This thread is pointless. Celtics can beat any team with or without Perkins. Crazy deal, but it wont make them a bad team who wont compete for a championship.

who is gonna guard howard...shaq?...davis?

DemoralizdDreamr · 02-24-11, 07:41 PM

im liking the heat's chances now even more

rsnnh12 · 02-24-11, 07:51 PM

Originally posted by vyomguy

who is gonna guard howard...shaq?...davis?

You're assuming they even meet up with the Magic in the playoffs. And yes, Shaq can guard him. Before you laugh that off, I'll just add that Rondo did a damn good job guarding Lebron last game, partially because of this- the Celtics D plays the best team defense in basketball. Who would've thought Rondo could guard Lebron? It doesn't matter who is matched up 1 on 1, the Cs collapse their D and rotate players better than anyone.

The Celtics will be fine without Perk. He only played in a dozen games this year, and they seemed to do okay without him.

It will be interesting to see who they sign. Sheed? Murphy? Posey? Who knows

Pauulzcappin · 02-24-11, 07:55 PM

Celtics are matching up against the Heat and the Bulls. They realized Orlando is gonna be a non-factor on the playoffs.

Bradyd · 02-24-11, 08:15 PM

Originally posted by rsnnh12

You're assuming they even meet up with the Magic in the playoffs. And yes, Shaq can guard him. Before you laugh that off, I'll just add that Rondo did a damn good job guarding Lebron last game, partially because of this- the Celtics D plays the best team defense in basketball. Who would've thought Rondo could guard Lebron? It doesn't matter who is matched up 1 on 1, the Cs collapse their D and rotate players better than anyone.

The Celtics will be fine without Perk. He only played in a dozen games this year, and they seemed to do okay without him.

It will be interesting to see who they sign. Sheed? Murphy? Posey? Who knows

I agreed with almost everything you said. But you should stop that "Rondo did a good job of guarding Lebron" mess. Lebron shot almost 50% from the field that game, something he doesn't normally do against the Celtics..

Bradyd · 02-24-11, 08:18 PM

Originally posted by Pauulzcappin

Celtics are matching up against the Heat and the Bulls. They realized Orlando is gonna be a non-factor on the playoffs.

Not really sure why they are concerned about the Bulls.. Bulls and Magic are cut from the same cloth: Pretenders

rsnnh12 · 02-24-11, 08:21 PM

Originally posted by Bradyd

I agreed with almost everything you said. But you should stop that "Rondo did a good job of guarding Lebron" mess. Lebron shot almost 50% from the field that game, something he doesn't normally do against the Celtics..

Did you watch the game? Lebron gave up the ball a lot more than usual when Rondo was on him. This is also because of the team defense, but Rondo did frustrate Lebron. It was fairly obvious, just by watching his demeanor on the court. Lebron didn't dominate the game, like he is capable of

GmCrazy · 02-24-11, 08:25 PM

41-14, I didn't thing they'd have a good record like this prior to the season.

Bradyd · 02-24-11, 08:29 PM

Originally posted by rsnnh12

Did you watch the game? Lebron gave up the ball a lot more than usual when Rondo was on him. This is also because of the team defense, but Rondo did frustrate Lebron. It was fairly obvious, just by watching his demeanor on the court. Lebron didn't dominate the game, like he is capable of

Yeah I watched the game, and I know how good Lebron was during that game. No, Lebron didn't dominate but I don't know of many players who dominate Boston. You may have a great game here and there, but your stats will normally go down playing against that Boston team.. Rondo may have frustrated Lebron, but frustrating a player isn't hard to do. The defending part is where it gets tough and Rondo was far away from doing a good job on Lebron..

WileOut · 02-24-11, 11:47 PM

Boston could not lose any starters and win the championship. They lost a chance at the championship with this trade. Perkins must be hurt worse than we know because on paper the trade makes no sense.

MendozaLine · 02-24-11, 11:52 PM

This is like Rondo's 5th season. Rondo is a veteran

Originally posted by hawley

Rondo

lunchbawks · 02-24-11, 11:58 PM

Originally posted by DemoralizdDreamr

This team just gets bigger and bigger. They might be lacking guys to strech the floor, ray allen and PP are their only legit outside shooters. Maybe Nate but he plays limited minutes.

Nate got traded today

Manaconda · 02-25-11, 12:10 AM

i wish they kept nate, he was an important part of a few key playoff games last year and they really have only one point guard now in rondo.. like jeff green, he will take some minutes from pierce and hopefully keep him fresh through the playoffs

rsnnh12 · 02-25-11, 12:17 AM

Originally posted by Manaconda

i wish they kept nate, he was an important part of a few key playoff games last year and they really have only one point guard now in rondo.. like jeff green, he will take some minutes from pierce and hopefully keep him fresh through the playoffs

They still have Delonte, who the Cs used as a PG when he first came into the league. He is a serviceable backup, and Pierce/Allen/Wafer can run the offense on occasion too if needed. One benefit to having so many vets is that they don't necessarily NEED a true PG for all 48 minutes... as long as Rondo can play 38+, and Delonte can do a few, they will be fine