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  • cleaveland
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    • 04-04-10
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    #1
    Why are the Spurs dogs to Chicago?
    Spurs +2 looks so easy it looks like a trap, someone please explain it.
  • hawley
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    • 05-10-10
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    #2
    Bulls will be home dogs very rarely

    The last time they were home dogs was against the Magic

    I think Bulls win either way
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    • hawley
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      • 05-10-10
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      #3
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      • demens
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        • 10-22-10
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        #4
        why
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        • lyon804
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          • 11-02-09
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          #5
          Last road game of a 10 game trip, maybe? Last game on the road before All star break, maybe? home teams were 8-4 ATS tonite, take out the Bucks Wolves,Rockets, and Jazz they were 8-0 ATS.. the reason I said that is because 3/4 teams that didnt cover tonite are very incompetent.
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          • t-wizzle
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            • 12-18-09
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            #6
            Bulls win tomorrow night. This is a big game for them and it's at home. They usually step up in these situations.
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            • Dark Horse
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              • 12-14-05
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              #7
              CHI is 24-4 SU at home. Spurs are 21-7 SU on the road. Game is a tossup. Stay away.
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              • demens
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                • 10-22-10
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                #8
                Or how about the Bulls having the 2nd best home record in the league? Or being 9-1 against teams over 500 at home? Or being a dog at home just two times all year and winning both of those games? But yeah, as usual.ITS A TRAP, HIDE YO KIDS.
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                • onlooker
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                  • 08-10-05
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                  #9
                  Because they should be. Line is about right. I pass, unless the Bulls become underdogs, which they shouldn't.
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                  • lyon804
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                    • 11-02-09
                    • 6526

                    #10
                    This has been traditionally a throw away game for a talented road team that has All- Stars such as the Spurs. Spurs are good but I think CHI will want to play this game at a higher level than the Spurs are willing to go. Talent wise/advantage Spurs Motivation / Bulls and it is at home. Who knows? I think CHI wins.
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                    • ParlayKing
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                      • 02-02-10
                      • 774

                      #11
                      Originally posted by demens
                      Or how about the Bulls having the 2nd best home record in the league? Or being 9-1 against teams over 500 at home? Or being a dog at home just two times all year and winning both of those games? But yeah, as usual.ITS A TRAP, HIDE YO KIDS.

                      HahahahHHa.. Anyway either side shouldn't be big play, either team can win this, Chicago has the revenge factor and that should be enough to warrant them as the side to make a play on
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                      • Dark Horse
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                        • 12-14-05
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                        #12
                        I honestly don't know any other sports where the players care less about the game more often than in the NBA. The season is too long. The players don't care. But the show must go on night after night.

                        Curling gets greater intensity than NBA ball.
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                        • demens
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                          • 10-22-10
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                          #13
                          I think Bulls win too, but i dont think its a throw away game for the Spurs just cause its the end of the trip and its all-star break. If they were playing some crap team i can see that being the case but the Bulls are a serious opponent especially at home and the Spurs are a proud team so i'm sure they are not looking past them just yet.

                          Of course if the Bulls are up by 10 in the 3rd i can see Pop benching everyone like on Christmas and catching an early flight leaving the scrubies to finish the game with a random Bulls fan from the 3rd row coaching.
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                          • demens
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                            • 10-22-10
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Dark Horse
                            I honestly don't know any other sports where the players care less about the game more often than in the NBA. The season is too long. The players don't care. But the show must go on night after night.

                            Curling gets greater intensity than NBA ball.
                            Ehh baseball no? I dont know cause i dont go anywhere near that boring shit, just thinking 160 or whatever games they play would probably not make them care much about 1 or 2.

                            Agree though, NBA would be better with less games. Shane Battier even had a proposal about it, dont remember what it was for exactly, maybe he was trying to be the players union president or something. Anyway, it'll never happen, all about money, and no not vegas money. Stern would never allow that, leagues losing money as it is anyway, cut down the season and half your ad revenue disappears. Not a chance, who cares if the product is shit.
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                            • lyon804
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                              • 11-02-09
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by demens
                              I think Bulls win too, but i dont think its a throw away game for the Spurs just cause its the end of the trip and its all-star break. If they were playing some crap team i can see that being the case but the Bulls are a serious opponent especially at home and the Spurs are a proud team so i'm sure they are not looking past them just yet.

                              Of course if the Bulls are up by 10 in the 3rd i can see Pop benching everyone like on Christmas and catching an early flight leaving the scrubies to finish the game with a random Bulls fan from the 3rd row coaching.

                              Well, if you feel the Spurs bring it 100% then you might not want to bet CHI. I like CHI and they are a good home team but lets face it the Spurs are just better. CHI is a much better version of the Bucks Which is to say they have a tendancy to struggle offensively at times where as the Spurs usually score points. My chrystal ball says CHI wins, will see.
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                              • jcubs55
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                                • 04-18-10
                                • 1023

                                #16
                                Because we are the best home team in the NBA besides the team that is playing on the road in this game...
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                                • Pauulzcappin
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                                  • 04-23-10
                                  • 20295

                                  #17
                                  Because everyone on their mother will be on the Spurs.
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                                  • DarkMage
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                                    • 05-20-09
                                    • 736

                                    #18
                                    I like Spurs +2 alot I'm taking it, should be a fantastic game
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                                    • demens
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                                      • 10-22-10
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                                      #19
                                      I wouldn't be soo sure that the road version of Spurs is better then the home version of the Bulls. Bulls are elite at home, as elite as anyone in the league.
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                                      • Pauulzcappin
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                                        • 04-23-10
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                                        #20
                                        CHI wins if they take it as a statement game, otherwise...
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                                        • Jshap1515
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                                          • 02-16-09
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                                          #21
                                          Spurs are an old team. Finishing a road trip AND finishing the first half of the season, Bulls or no play
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                                          • t-wizzle
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                                            • 12-18-09
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                                            #22
                                            I wanted to grab this thing out of the shoot but my book opened at 2

                                            We've already seen this line move from Bulls -1 to -2. Do you guys think that enough money will come in on SA to bring it back to the 1/1.5 range or does it stay or 2, possibly even go to 3?
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                                            • lyon804
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                                              • 11-02-09
                                              • 6526

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by demens
                                              I wouldn't be soo sure that the road version of Spurs is better then the home version of the Bulls. Bulls are elite at home, as elite as anyone in the league.


                                              Not disagreeing with that either but the Bulls did not build there home record playing the likes of the Spurs. They do have some nice wins at home but fortunately caught some of the good teams in bad spots. I like the Bulls also just trying to present the truth. They are not quite as "elite" as there home record would suggest.
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                                              • vyomguy
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                                                • 12-08-09
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                                                #24
                                                bulls win tomorrow.
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                                                • cleaveland
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                                                  • 04-04-10
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by demens
                                                  Or how about the Bulls having the 2nd best home record in the league? Or being 9-1 against teams over 500 at home? Or being a dog at home just two times all year and winning both of those games? But yeah, as usual.ITS A TRAP, HIDE YO KIDS.
                                                  It's a classic trap scenario, I like the Spurs here.
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                                                  • gohabsgo
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                                                    • 03-19-10
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                                                    #26
                                                    Chicago are 24-4 at home, 2nd best home record in the league.
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                                                    • vyomguy
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                                                      • 12-08-09
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by cleaveland
                                                      It's a classic trap scenario, I like the Spurs here.
                                                      How is it trap...its a fair line of -2. Spurs dont care about this game. Bulls will be much more motivated for this game to prove they can compete with the elite teams.
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                                                      • Dark Horse
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                                                        • 12-14-05
                                                        • 13764

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by demens
                                                        Ehh baseball no? I dont know cause i dont go anywhere near that boring shit, just thinking 160 or whatever games they play would probably not make them care much about 1 or 2.
                                                        Baseball has much greater intensity than the NBA. Players stand around a lot, but when it's their turn at bat or to field a ball, they're very intense.

                                                        Players run around a lot in the NBA, but the intensity is mostly at practice level. Especially from January 1st to the ASB.
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                                                        • demens
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                                                          • 10-22-10
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by lyon804
                                                          Not disagreeing with that either but the Bulls did not build there home record playing the likes of the Spurs. They do have some nice wins at home but fortunately caught some of the good teams in bad spots. I like the Bulls also just trying to present the truth. They are not quite as "elite" as there home record would suggest.
                                                          Dont know, some of these "new" great teams that are trying to get to the elite status start at home. Thibs coming from Boston knows how important home court is. not everyone can just sign 3 all-stars.

                                                          Bad spots or not 9-1 vs 500+, which includes Orlando, Lakers, Celtics, Mavs and Heat. So yeah, teams likes the Spurs did contribute to the Bulls home record.

                                                          What about the Spurs not playing defense and shooting too many 3s and not really being an elite team anyway? Changing your mind about that a bit?
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                                                          • lyon804
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                                                            • 11-02-09
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                                                            #30
                                                            Yes Demons I agree with you. The Bulls should win. I was just making the case that there home record is a little deceiving. But right now teams like Orlando and Lakers are not worthy of being mentioned in the same breath as the Spurs.
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                                                            • craigpb
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                                                              • 06-19-08
                                                              • 705

                                                              #31
                                                              Bulls playing really well last few games; should have little problem.
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                                                              • cleaveland
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                                                                • 04-04-10
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by vyomguy
                                                                How is it trap...its a fair line of -2. Spurs dont care about this game. Bulls will be much more motivated for this game to prove they can compete with the elite teams.
                                                                I think it's a classic trap scenario and that doesn't mean it's a trap, I'm going on line movement and experience. That's just my opinion and still not exactly sure which side is being "trapped".

                                                                LVSC started with the line Spurs -1 so not everyone agrees that the Bulls should be favored here. Line movement says the market is favoring the Bulls and I've noticed that when the market changes the favorite from the LVSC's favorite the new favorite tends to lose (especially in nationally televised games).

                                                                Several factors make me think this is a classic trap scenario, feel free to disagree.
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                                                                • t-wizzle
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                                                                  • 12-18-09
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Spurs still play very good defense. The stats don't tell the story as they are now more of an up-tempo team. Consequently they allow more points. And they don't shoot too many 3s because they are the best team in the league with the 3-ball.
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                                                                  • paco
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                                                                    • 05-07-09
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Spurs will win. Spurs ml
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                                                                    • masticore
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                                                                      • 07-24-09
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by t-wizzle
                                                                      I wanted to grab this thing out of the shoot but my book opened at 2

                                                                      We've already seen this line move from Bulls -1 to -2. Do you guys think that enough money will come in on SA to bring it back to the 1/1.5 range or does it stay or 2, possibly even go to 3?
                                                                      Why grab a pick earlie?? Yes, the line can move you out..and you will have no bet.

                                                                      But I still think its better to analyse it from ground..and if you miss the "good" line...so what - no bet is better than a random pick

                                                                      And if you are so sure about a pick..then can you buy back the line..the doesnt matter then because you are sure about it

                                                                      regards
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