Do the Lakers get revenge Thursday vs. Boston???

zogdog · 02-10-11, 01:47 AM

I think I like the Lakers. Celtics haven't been playing well, plus both O'Neals are out I believe. Lakers are healthy, on the other hand.

forzuto13 · 02-10-11, 01:48 AM

Originally posted by politicin

Really tough game to call. My initial lean was Lakers though, for the revenge factor, and the possible value in the line due to them being the away team.

WTF, that's what I was thinking. Gonna take Lakers and cross my fingers they keep it down to the wire.

lyon804 · 02-10-11, 01:53 AM

Why do you people expect the lakers to beat Boston?

No coincidences · 02-10-11, 01:56 AM

Originally posted by lyon804

Why do you people expect the lakers to beat Boston?

I think it's because they're the champs.

I, for one, don't think this is the same LA team anymore. Kobe's getting old and worn down. Gasol's still an enigma. The rest of these cats are who they are. Unless Kobe goes ballistic, LA's not in the C's league right now -- and I'm not sure Kobe has it in him anymore to do so. They've done a horrible job of building around him and bridging the gap for a future without him.

I personally think Boston wins comfortably here, though I'm not betting it.

HoulihansTX · 02-10-11, 01:59 AM

B/c their is value in a team that people have lost faith in.

revenge.

They have beaten this team in the playoffs twice

Lakers are loaded with talent. Trust they are loaded, b/c Derek Fisher starts for this team, and it doesnt hurt them

Derek Fisher wouldnt start for any other team in the NBA. Not even the CAVS.

No coincidences · 02-10-11, 02:01 AM

Originally posted by HoulihansTX

B/c their is value in a team that people have lost faith in.

revenge.

They have beaten this team in the playoffs twice

Lakers are loaded with talent. Trust they are loaded, b/c Derek Fisher starts for this team, and it doesnt hurt them

Derek Fisher wouldnt start for any other team in the NBA. Not even the CAVS.

I don't buy this at all, Houli. There may be talent there, but it's getting to be stale talent.

HoulihansTX · 02-10-11, 02:06 AM

I would love to see a team have three 7footers, that could legitimately start for any other team in the NBA.

Bynum/Gasoft/Odom

nobody else has this when it comes to having a frontline.

lyon804 · 02-10-11, 02:08 AM

Originally posted by HoulihansTX

B/c their is value in a team that people have lost faith in.

revenge.

They have beaten this team in the playoffs twice

Lakers are loaded with talent. Trust they are loaded, b/c Derek Fisher starts for this team, and it doesnt hurt them

Derek Fisher wouldnt start for any other team in the NBA. Not even the CAVS.

goddamn houli i like you and think you are a bright fella but the reasons you just have to be the worst ever to make a wager. I would rather flip a coin if that was all I had to go off of.

Kobe= Still can score with the best of them, but defense is not what it was.

Fisher= Derek Fisher

Artest= Offensive Liability, without the lock down D currently

Gasol= Still a pussy but does not get utilized enough

Bynum= Clearly not the same guy,slower than dog shit

Bench

S. Brown= D-Leaguer with amazing hops, good game every now and then.

Blake= Steve Blake

Lamar Odum= Valiable player that is counted on as a starter that plays starters minutes of the bench.

HoulihansTX · 02-10-11, 02:10 AM

Fisher= Derek Fisher

Dude Blows. The fact that he starts on this team, and they have won multiple championships is puzzling to say the least.

Revenge is actually one of the better reason to bet a team though.

lyon804 · 02-10-11, 02:18 AM

Originally posted by HoulihansTX

Fisher= Derek Fisher

Dude Blows. The fact that he starts on this team, and they have won multiple championships is puzzling to say the least.

Revenge is actually one of the better reason to bet a team though.

All true, but look at the core of the team. All 30+ somethings other than Bynum and with his bum knee he might as well be. Not just 30+ but with many miles on those legs. I wonder how many minutes Kobe has played, practiced since HS. Couting Reg Season, playoffs, summer olympics, practice,etc.. Wonder why he has no cartilage in his knees.

Revenge factors are highly overrated. You forget these are multi-millonaires, that fukk the same groupies and many have the same agents, and share vacation homes with one another in the off season. The NBA is a fraternity. Sure there are some rivalries such as Celtics/Lakers but most of the time there are no revenge and season series are swept year in and year out across the leauge with better players/coaches than there opposistion.

whadeeb · 02-10-11, 02:32 AM

Every time I bet on the Lakers I lose lol, so here I go again

Bradyd · 02-10-11, 02:37 AM

Originally posted by HoulihansTX

I would love to see a team have three 7footers, that could legitimately start for any other team in the NBA.

Bynum/Gasoft/Odom

nobody else has this when it comes to having a frontline.

The Lakers are playing the other team on Thursday night...

MarcBBC · 02-10-11, 02:42 AM

I took the over of 187

hawley · 02-10-11, 02:44 AM

Originally posted by MarcBBC

I took the over of 187

These two teams put up over 200 just a week or so ago

Why is the total so low now?

HoulihansTX · 02-10-11, 02:44 AM

Originally posted by Bradyd

The Lakers are playing the other team on Thursday night...

You are talking about Shaq, and Perkins?

here you go: Over the hill // hustle player.

Bradyd · 02-10-11, 02:55 AM

Originally posted by HoulihansTX

You are talking about Shaq, and Perkins?

here you go: Over the hill // hustle player.

Well, labels can go both ways. It's not like Bynum stays healthy and Odom is just a role player, but that is not the point. You wanted another team who has the big men to compete with the Lakers and Boston is that team..

adam3248 · 02-10-11, 04:50 AM

I lean celtics & under

sweetjones55 · 02-10-11, 02:52 PM

Originally posted by HoulihansTX

B/c their is value in a team that people have lost faith in.

revenge.

They have beaten this team in the playoffs twice

Lakers are loaded with talent. Trust they are loaded, b/c Derek Fisher starts for this team, and it doesnt hurt them

Derek Fisher wouldnt start for any other team in the NBA. Not even the CAVS.

How does Fisher starting for the Lakers this year not hurt LA? The guy is supposed to run the offense. He doesn't hit open shots, doesn't create shots for others, doesn't push fast breaks, doesn't penetrate the defense, and his defense is terrible. He is a top 3 worst shooting PG in the NBA this year. He is downright terrible.

HoulihansTX · 02-10-11, 03:34 PM

Originally posted by sweetjones55

How does Fisher starting for the Lakers this year not hurt LA? The guy is supposed to run the offense. He doesn't hit open shots, doesn't create shots for others, doesn't push fast breaks, doesn't penetrate the defense, and his defense is terrible. He is a top 3 worst shooting PG in the NBA this year. He is downright terrible.

They have won 5 championships with him starting.

I know he sucks. But the proof is in the pudding.

If you want to argue five championships, then lets agree to disagree.

Afrodiziak · 02-10-11, 03:51 PM

Originally posted by sweetjones55

How does Fisher starting for the Lakers this year not hurt LA? The guy is supposed to run the offense. He doesn't hit open shots, doesn't create shots for others, doesn't push fast breaks, doesn't penetrate the defense, and his defense is terrible. He is a top 3 worst shooting PG in the NBA this year. He is downright terrible.

I think SJ meant this year. We all know what Fisher did for Lakers previous years! Even last year when he beat Celtics at their home! But this year he's yet to show us some of his magic when it's most important, that is in playoff games where I never doubt in him!

Ralphie1412 · 02-10-11, 03:52 PM

I like the celtics a lot. They are so much better than the lakers. The lakers suck. Artest is poison. Ray lights em up and takes Reggies crown tonight.

HoulihansTX · 02-10-11, 04:08 PM

Originally posted by Afrodiziak

I think SJ meant this year. We all know what Fisher did for Lakers previous years! Even last year when he beat Celtics at their home! But this year he's yet to show us some of his magic when it's most important, that is in playoff games where I never doubt in him!

I know he sucks.

Dear God, how many times do I have to say that?

My point is that they are 36-16 with him in the starting lineup, and that's a testament to the talent that surrounds him. Lakers are loaded.

HoulihansTX · 02-10-11, 04:10 PM

Originally posted by Bradyd

Well, labels can go both ways. It's not like Bynum stays healthy and Odom is just a role player, but that is not the point. You wanted another team who has the big men to compete with the Lakers and Boston is that team..

Nobody is interested in Shaq, and Perkins other than the Celtics.

I'm sure many teams would love to have Lamar Odom, and Bynum in their lineups.

At least 28 of the 32 teams in the NBA would love to have Bynum in their starting lineup.

sweetjones55 · 02-10-11, 04:16 PM

Originally posted by HoulihansTX

They have won 5 championships with him starting.

I know he sucks. But the proof is in the pudding.

If you want to argue five championships, then lets agree to disagree.

Yes they are 36-16 this year but they have lost to all of the elite teams Boston, SA twice, Dallas, and Miami. We are not arguing the Lakers as a franchise, their 5 championships, and what they have accomplished. The title of this thread is, "Do Lakers get revenge Thursday". This is about who is going to win TONIGHT between the current Lakers and current Celtics. Right now, Fisher is killing the Lakers. Bynum is still having the knee problem and is not 100%. Gasol has said he is not playing up to his expectations. Brown/Blake/Artest have been downright terrible this year. Even big game Kobe has been held below 21 points in 4 of those 5 games vs the NBA's elite this year. The one game he goes for over 21 and drops 41 points, they get mopped by the Celtics at home by 13.

Four of the five losses to the elite teams were by 9 points or more. Even when they hold SA to 41% shooting and hold down the Big 3 for the entire 1H, they still lose at home by 1.

Adr3nalin3 Ru5h · 02-10-11, 04:21 PM

Originally posted by Pauulzcappin

I'll be on Lakers ML. Homer wagering at its best.

HoulihansTX · 02-10-11, 04:23 PM

The guy has sucked for the past 3 years. Fisher being a below average player is not anything new.

Bynum being INJ is not new.

Gasoft not getting enough shots, b/c Kobe plays half of the game in Iso is not new.

Ron Artest had one good playoffs series last year, and sucked in the Championships. So thats not new.

Win or lose. I like the Revenge spot. I wish everyone luck.

bh9889 · 02-10-11, 04:30 PM

You know.....I'm not quite sure I understand all this "If the lakers make it they will get embarrassed" shit, because the Lakers were in the same position this year as they were in last year dropping games around this time of the year. Just believe Bryant when he says he will have the team ready, and tonight is one of those "told ya so" games for the Lakers. Lakers + 2 1/2

BillMing · 02-10-11, 04:58 PM

Boston -2.5 is a LOCK. And i think under is the play, not as confident though. But last time they routed the Lakes they shot 60% and only just got over 100, so confident they will shoot 50% and win 93-88.

BillMing · 02-10-11, 05:01 PM

Originally posted by hawley

These two teams put up over 200 just a week or so ago

Why is the total so low now?

Because it is at the Garden. All 3 games from the finals that were @ Boston were under this total. I know that doesn't mean much because there was a lot more riding on those game and a lot more pressure and so forth, but still something to think about. Boston always steps up the D at home. Unless Kobe has a 40+ game and shoots over 45% i think Boston and the Under are locks.

Bradyd · 02-10-11, 05:15 PM

Originally posted by HoulihansTX

Nobody is interested in Shaq, and Perkins other than the Celtics.

I'm sure many teams would love to have Lamar Odom, and Bynum in their lineups.

At least 28 of the 32 teams in the NBA would love to have Bynum in their starting lineup.

Once again, all you said was, as I quote "I would love to see a team have three 7footers, that could legitimately start for any other team in the NBA.". Those were your words.. Shaq, Perkins, and KG all could, legitimately start for other NBA teams. This isn't about who wants who, or who doesn't want who. This is about who can legitimately start for other NBA teams. Celtics match up with the Lakers really well..

HoulihansTX · 02-10-11, 05:23 PM

Originally posted by Bradyd

Once again, all you said was, as I quote "I would love to see a team have three 7footers, that could legitimately start for any other team in the NBA.". Those were your words.. Shaq, Perkins, and KG all could, legitimately start for other NBA teams. This isn't about who wants who, or who doesn't want who. This is about who can legitimately start for other NBA teams. Celtics match up with the Lakers really well..

Agreed. I see your point.

I think having the Lakers bigs is better than the Celtics, but that was not my original argument.

BayArea888 · 02-10-11, 05:48 PM

Starters:
Fisher < Rondo
Bryant > Allen
Artest < Pierce
Gasol > Garnett
Bynum > Perkins

Bench:
Blake < Robinson
Brown > Avery or Wafer
Walton = Harangody
Odom > Davis
??? ???

William Walters · 02-10-11, 06:00 PM

A lot of "know it alls" in this thread. Nobody was talking about the Lakers being too old, slow, or any of that shit until after "Mr Clutch" went public with his opinion on the state of the Lakers. Now, some will say JW meant what he said.........others will say he was trying to fire up the Lakers (because he'll always bleed purple & gold). Either way, now we have a bunch of wannabe sports reporters/GM's spewing from their pie holes about the Lakers and where they are lacking.

This team is BUILT FOR THE PLAYOFFS. We've been hearing about how Fisher is "too slow" and a "liability" for so many years I lost count. Yet, come playoff time...........he gets the job done. Same with Pau being "soft".....well.....guess what.....Pau is good for a solid 19 & 11 per game come playoff time.

Sure, this thread is about tonights game, but too many blow hards are talking about the demise of the Lakers WAY TOO SOON. Will they win tonight......in Boston......where the leprechauns have been close to unbeatable this season? Who knows....Vegas says they wont. Personally, I think they'll get it done. Lets just all keep in mind that until somebody knocks the Purple & Gold out of the playoffs......they are still YOUR DADDY!

William Walters · 02-10-11, 06:05 PM

Originally posted by Bradyd

Once again, all you said was, as I quote "I would love to see a team have three 7footers, that could legitimately start for any other team in the NBA.". Those were your words.. Shaq, Perkins, and KG all could, legitimately start for other NBA teams. This isn't about who wants who, or who doesn't want who. This is about who can legitimately start for other NBA teams. Celtics match up with the Lakers really well..

You've got to be kidding me about Shaq being able to "start for any other NBA team". Dude is fat, slow, and decrepit. NO WAY could Shaq hold up over the course of a season playing starters minutes.

goblinburner · 02-10-11, 06:10 PM

taking lakers for 70 ml 120