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  • Love The Action
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    • 11-08-10
    • 10952

    #1
    Why Is Bulls Warriors Game Off the Board?
    I use a local with an online site and the Bulls/Warriors game was taken off the board. I don't see any injury info. Anyone know what's up? Thanks.
  • demens
    SBR MVP
    • 10-22-10
    • 2785

    #2
    Monta Ellis has diarrhea.
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    • manu4life
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      • 01-30-11
      • 132

      #3
      Originally posted by demens
      Monta Ellis has diarrhea.
      lol really??
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      • Love The Action
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        • 11-08-10
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        #4
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        • demens
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          • 10-22-10
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          #5
          Stomach problems/Stomach virus/Upset stomach...sounds like diarrhea to me. Missed shoot around.
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          • Love The Action
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            • 11-08-10
            • 10952

            #6
            He's been crying about not making the all star team too...
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            • ugabooga
              SBR MVP
              • 12-27-10
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              #7
              Any word on if he's playing?
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              • Love The Action
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                • 11-08-10
                • 10952

                #8
                Yep...I believe he is...which explain why the line jumped a point about an hour ago.
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                • ugabooga
                  SBR MVP
                  • 12-27-10
                  • 1088

                  #9
                  The line has moved out to 4 so i'm gonna try and play the middle.

                  Bulls win by 3 or 4 are my best results.Assuming i've calculated it right haha. Good luck.
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                  • demens
                    SBR MVP
                    • 10-22-10
                    • 2785

                    #10
                    Originally posted by ugabooga
                    The line has moved out to 4 so i'm gonna try and play the middle.

                    Bulls win by 3 or 4 are my best results.Assuming i've calculated it right haha. Good luck.

                    Ehh, what? The line was never under 3 and there is no middle between 3 and 4 guy. Are you stupid or just crazy, because this is throwing money away.
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                    • ugabooga
                      SBR MVP
                      • 12-27-10
                      • 1088

                      #11
                      Originally posted by demens
                      Ehh, what? The line was never under 3 and there is no middle between 3 and 4 guy. Are you stupid or just crazy, because this is throwing money away.
                      Oh shit, this is what i've got...let me know if i've f*cked up

                      My bets-
                      $67 Bulls –3
                      $33 Bulls –3.5
                      $100 GSW +4

                      $200 outlay

                      If Bulls win by 2 or lose, return Bet3 = +191
                      If Bulls win by 3, B1 push, B3 pays = 67 + 191 = +258
                      If Bulls win by 4, B1 + B2, B3 push = +291
                      If Bulls win by 5+, B1 + B2 = 191

                      Risking 9 to win $58 or $91
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                      • hawley
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                        • 05-10-10
                        • 14270

                        #12
                        Thats taking a huge punt mate, good luck
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                        • ugabooga
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                          • 12-27-10
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                          #13
                          Have i got my numbers wrong? Man i'm tripping out...as far as i can see, i'm risking $9 to win up to $91?
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                          • demens
                            SBR MVP
                            • 10-22-10
                            • 2785

                            #14
                            Originally posted by ugabooga
                            Oh shit, this is what i've got...let me know if i've f*cked up

                            My bets-
                            $67 Bulls –3
                            $33 Bulls –3.5
                            $100 GSW +4

                            $200 outlay

                            If Bulls win by 2 or lose, return Bet3 = +191
                            If Bulls win by 3, B1 push, B3 pays = 67 + 191 = +258
                            If Bulls win by 4, B1 + B2, B3 push = +291
                            If Bulls win by 5+, B1 + B2 = 191

                            Risking 9 to win $58 or $91

                            So the most you can possibly make is $91 and you have to hope the game ends in a 4 point Bulls win. You can also make $58 if the Bulls win by exactly 3. ANY OTHER SCORE and you are losing money.

                            No offense but this might be the dumbest bet i've ever seen someone make.
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                            • demens
                              SBR MVP
                              • 10-22-10
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by ugabooga
                              Have i got my numbers wrong? Man i'm tripping out...as far as i can see, i'm risking $9 to win up to $91?
                              Yeah, expect you have about a hell freezing over' shot at winning that 91.
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                              • Le_Donk
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 02-13-10
                                • 627

                                #16
                                he also forgot that if bulls win by 3 that his 2nd bet is a loss
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                                • ugabooga
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                                  • 12-27-10
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                                  #17
                                  I don;t see how you can say it's dumb.

                                  I don't play the middle, i risk $100 to win 91.
                                  I play the middle, i risk $9 to win exactly the same amount.

                                  I'm no Harvard scholar but it would seem playing the middle would be my better play.
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                                  • ugabooga
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                                    • 12-27-10
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Le_Donk
                                    he also forgot that if bulls win by 3 that his 2nd bet is a loss
                                    Nah i didnt include any lost bets in that equation.

                                    I'll admit that the chances of it happening are slim but i made a relatively big play on Dallas so i'm just looking to consolidate.
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                                    • fury
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                                      • 02-20-10
                                      • 1651

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by ugabooga
                                      Oh shit, this is what i've got...let me know if i've f*cked up

                                      My bets-
                                      $67 Bulls –3
                                      $33 Bulls –3.5
                                      $100 GSW +4

                                      $200 outlay

                                      If Bulls win by 2 or lose, return Bet3 = +191
                                      If Bulls win by 3, B1 push, B3 pays = 67 + 191 = +258
                                      If Bulls win by 4, B1 + B2, B3 push = +291
                                      If Bulls win by 5+, B1 + B2 = 191

                                      Risking 9 to win $58 or $91
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                                      • ugabooga
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                                        • 12-27-10
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                                        #20
                                        Basic arithmetic....can you dig it?

                                        I don't play the middle, i risk $100 to win 91.
                                        I play the middle, i risk $9 to win exactly the same amount.

                                        I've even bolded the most relevant parts for you
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                                        • hawley
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                                          • 05-10-10
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                                          #21
                                          Most peoples idea of a middle wouldnt be -3 and +4
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                                          • ugabooga
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                                            • 12-27-10
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                                            #22
                                            No of course i know that and the chances of this happening are slim to none...but when i put it like i did 1 post up, i can't see why I don't do it. Anyway i'll probably feel a little bit of regret if Bulls cover but i guarantee i feel a whole lot more regret if i dont make the play. Each to their own i guess.
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                                            • fury
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                                              • 02-20-10
                                              • 1651

                                              #23
                                              Yeah I got that part, I'm just trying to figure out why anyone would make such a stupid bet.
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                                              • hawley
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                                                • 05-10-10
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                                                #24
                                                Why did you hedge your original bets?

                                                Whatdo you think the result will be?
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                                                • ugabooga
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 12-27-10
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by fury
                                                  Yeah I got that part, I'm just trying to figure out why anyone would make such a stupid bet.
                                                  Rather than say it's stupid,...why don't u explain to me why it is so i don't make such stupid plays in the future...

                                                  In other words, explain to me why i should risk more to win exactly the same amount.


                                                  Originally posted by hawley
                                                  Why did you hedge your original bets?

                                                  Whatdo you think the result will be?
                                                  The main reason i hedged was because Ellis was confirmed a starter but more money came in for Chicago...i dunno it didn't make sense to me. I saw the hedge angle, it made sense mathematically to me so i made the play.

                                                  Obviously a little unconvential and unlikely to happen but on pure mathematics...it made sense.

                                                  Not saying Bulls can't cover...and they probably will...just made sense to me.
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                                                  • demens
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                                                    • 10-22-10
                                                    • 2785

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by ugabooga
                                                    Rather than say it's stupid,...why don't u explain to me why it is so i don't make such stupid plays in the future...

                                                    In other words, explain to me why i should risk more to win exactly the same amount.
                                                    Are you seriously that slow? You risk more to win the same amount because the odds of winning are about a million % better. My basic arithmetic might be off my a few % but not much. At least give yourself a chance when you middle. Playing between 3 and 4 is not middling. You have a better shot at hitting a 10 team parlay and guess what, should be right up your alley because you'll risk even less to win exactly the same amount.
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                                                    • ugabooga
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                                                      • 12-27-10
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                                                      #27
                                                      Read my post above, i did say the chances are slim....and to say it's the same chance of hitting 10 team parlay..surely you're taking the piss?

                                                      Next time i'll just say i cancelled my bet for a small loss..with a slight chance of winning a full bet...than use the term 'middle'...ok.,..you f*cken c*ckhead.
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                                                      • Le_Donk
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 02-13-10
                                                        • 627

                                                        #28
                                                        let me show you ( took the push % from the sbr tools section )
                                                        92,69 % of the time u lose the $ 9 ( any other score then bulls by 3 or 4 )
                                                        3,83 % of the time u win $ 25 ( bulls win by 3 )
                                                        3,48 % of the time u win $ 91 ( bulls win by 4 )
                                                        your expected return : (0,0383 *25 ) +( 0,0348 * 91 ) + (0,9269 * -9 ) = -4,8276
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                                                        • ugabooga
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 12-27-10
                                                          • 1088

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Le_Donk
                                                          let me show you ( took the push % from the sbr tools section )
                                                          92,69 % of the time u lose the $ 9 ( any other score then bulls by 3 or 4 )
                                                          3,83 % of the time u win $ 25 ( bulls win by 3 )
                                                          3,48 % of the time u win $ 91 ( bulls win by 4 )
                                                          your expected return : (0,0383 *25 ) +( 0,0348 * 91 ) + (0,9269 * -9 ) = -4,8276
                                                          Thanks, yeah that looks about right. Out of curiosity, what range does it set as possible or likely outcomes? Does it take lines into consideration?

                                                          Seems like a pretty handy tool.
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                                                          • Le_Donk
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 02-13-10
                                                            • 627

                                                            #30
                                                            i think it doesnt take the line into consideration
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