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  • mwhit0000
    SBR Rookie
    • 03-20-08
    • 3

    #1
    how are the suns looking tonight?
    I'm thinking of taking them +7 against boston, seems good.

    also, how does this look:

    teaser 3 team:

    pistons +8.5
    hornets +9
    suns +14

    seems foolproof to me
  • ryanXL977
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 02-24-08
    • 20615

    #2
    i am curious as to why the line is so big
    i think boston is better , but 7 pts is a ton
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    • GSW4life
      SBR High Roller
      • 03-10-08
      • 155

      #3
      seems weird to me too...could be a trap, but I took the Suns +7.
      I expect a playoff type atmosphere resulting in a low scoring close game. Both teams are playing for something even though Boston has already clinched. Phoenix trying to prove their toughness and in the midst of the Western Conference playoff mess + Boston has lost 2 in a row at home and hasn't lost 3 in a row at home all year = Close tough fought battle
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      • ryanXL977
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 02-24-08
        • 20615

        #4
        i like boston at pick em, but since it aint pick em i will take the dog
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        • Arnold
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 12-17-07
          • 906

          #5
          I like the Suns. -7 is too much for Boston in this game.
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          • rake922
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 12-23-07
            • 11692

            #6
            Bet on Celtics ...
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            • sir.civic
              SBR High Roller
              • 02-21-08
              • 154

              #7
              boston hir......"outside shooting... fast pace bball...if shaq plays the whole game... its over for them.....
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              • Dark Horse
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 12-14-05
                • 13764

                #8
                The 7 pt line reflects public perception. In my opinion Boston is not nearly as good as perceived. They would not be at the top of the table in the West, and their excellent record is largely the result of playing in the weak East.

                So the Suns giving up 7 pts is almost like free money. I'm trying to decide if the PHX ML is the way to go.
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                • ryanXL977
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 02-24-08
                  • 20615

                  #9
                  oh , i surely think the celts are the best in the league, beat dallas 2x, rockets 2x, spurs 2x, lakers in la, detroit twice

                  they are the best
                  but that doesnt mean they cover tonte
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                  • Dark Horse
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 12-14-05
                    • 13764

                    #10
                    That's not how I would measure it. This is the NBA (regular season). Teams either get up for games or not. In the West teams have so many strong opponents that the frequency of having to get up for a game starts to wear on the intensity. For Boston this is not a problem. Didn't Boston have a pretty horrible extended road trip through the West? That indicates how they would have done in the West much more so than the few big games they did get up for.

                    The weaknesses for Boston are mental softness and lack of a strong point guard. This won't necessarily show up in the regular season, but it will be exposed in the playoffs. The question is: is tonight a playoff game? Or how close to a playoff game is this?
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                    • Illusion
                      Restricted User
                      • 08-09-05
                      • 25166

                      #11
                      Phoenix always plays Boston tough. I am taking the points tonight.
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                      • Wyndham
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 02-09-08
                        • 598

                        #12
                        It's amazing to me that people are so fickle with spreads. Do you not watch the sport you bet on? Here's an example which shows why nothing is fool-proof or half as good as it ever looks: It's a close game for 44 minutes. Boston leads by two with four minutes to play. The teams swap buckets for a couple of minutes. With a couple to play, Ray Allen sinks a three-pointer, Steve Nash follows with a turnover and then Boston gets an easy layup. It's now 100-93, a seven-point difference. The teams more or less swap buckets for another 90 seconds and then Phoenix starts fouling. Ray Allen keeps making free throws and Phoenix's desperation is all for nothing. Final score: Phoenix 99 - Boston 111. Close game? Damn right, but the scoreline doesn't always reflect that. In fact, because of the nature of the NBA -- this doesn't happen in pro or college football -- the final scoreline is rarely indicative of exactly how the game went.

                        Phoenix +7 looks good. But you basically need them to win or be within three points with less than 60 seconds to play. Anything else and Boston should cover. And even if they're down two or three with 60 seconds to play, they STILL have to hit shots/hope Boston misses free throws to get a cover. Against the best team in the NBA on the road after a tough road game against Detroit, I don't love the Suns' chances.
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                        • ryanXL977
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 02-24-08
                          • 20615

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Dark Horse
                          That's not how I would measure it. This is the NBA (regular season). Teams either get up for games or not. In the West teams have so many strong opponents that the frequency of having to get up for a game starts to wear on the intensity. For Boston this is not a problem. Didn't Boston have a pretty horrible extended road trip through the West? That indicates how they would have done in the West much more so than the few big games they did get up for.

                          The weaknesses for Boston are mental softness and lack of a strong point guard. This won't necessarily show up in the regular season, but it will be exposed in the playoffs. The question is: is tonight a playoff game? Or how close to a playoff game is this?


                          boston just won all their road gamesin texas, not a tough road trip for them
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                          • Wyndham
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 02-09-08
                            • 598

                            #14
                            Btw, the above is why betting totals is so much more profitable than taking sides (see LT Profits). You'll take the bad beat every now and then where the game was under all the way until some BS chucking in the fourth quarter, or where it was over all the way until a BS late drought of points. But for the most part it's easier to cap and far less dependent on circumstancial events.
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                            • M.Chalmers15
                              SBR High Roller
                              • 02-27-08
                              • 237

                              #15
                              wyndham, what are your totals plays for tonight?
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                              • Dark Horse
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 12-14-05
                                • 13764

                                #16
                                Originally posted by ryanXL977
                                boston just won all their road gamesin texas, not a tough road trip for them
                                Sure. And in February they went 2-3 SU on a road trip through the west with their only two wins coming against < .500 teams.
                                After that debacle, they were obviously determined to have a strong road trip this month.

                                The NBA has many games that are approached like training sessions. For Boston, in the East, that won't show up in their record nearly as much as for a top team in the West. So don't confuse their record with their true strength.
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                                • ryanXL977
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 02-24-08
                                  • 20615

                                  #17
                                  i am not looking at their record, i am looking at the fact they have beaten evceryone in the league twice
                                  excpt the suns
                                  the celts are the best
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                                  • Dark Horse
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 12-14-05
                                    • 13764

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by ryanXL977
                                    i am not looking at their record, i am looking at the fact they have beaten evceryone in the league twice
                                    excpt the suns
                                    the celts are the best
                                    You should be looking at their record, because that's why the line is so high.

                                    Anyway, since you have a mantra going, let's forget the Hornets. And also throw out any similarities between New Orleans and Phoenix.
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                                    • ryanXL977
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 02-24-08
                                      • 20615

                                      #19
                                      the suns always lose to the hornets
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                                      • greek
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 10-01-07
                                        • 1680

                                        #20
                                        boston at home ml
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                                        • mundane
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 02-25-08
                                          • 3592

                                          #21
                                          what Wyndham sed only suns cover by 1 pt!
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                                          • ryanXL977
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 02-24-08
                                            • 20615

                                            #22
                                            i have seen many teams down 3 with 1 minute to play lose by more than 7
                                            happens every single day
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                                            • rake922
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 12-23-07
                                              • 11692

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Dark Horse
                                              Didn't Boston have a pretty horrible extended road trip through the West? That indicates how they would have done in the West much more so than the few big games they did get up for.
                                              Boston is 23-5 Straight up vs the Western Conference. you consider that horrible?
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                                              • ChuteBoxe
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 11-21-07
                                                • 6885

                                                #24
                                                I'm on the suns ml (+258) for 2 units, and +6 for 3. Let's go Phoenix!
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                                                • pat venditto
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 05-07-07
                                                  • 14347

                                                  #25
                                                  chutes gettin burried tonight
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                                                  • ryanXL977
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 02-24-08
                                                    • 20615

                                                    #26
                                                    jesus the celts are somehting else
                                                    how could anyone call them anything but the best in the nba
                                                    they are damned good
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