Tracking the Cleveland Cavaliers: They might be undervalued.

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  • Mac4Lyfe
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 01-04-09
    • 48569

    #1
    Tracking the Cleveland Cavaliers: They might be undervalued.
    I'm going to use this thread to track the Cavaliers record ats to start the season. I have a feeling that they might be undervalued and a good play since most people will think they stink without LeGone.

    Odds10/27 7pm

    CLE+5 -110


    Total


    185½ -110





    I thought the line would be much higher than +5 but maybe the books are looking at Boston playing the Heat the day before. I think this gives a good advantage for the C's as they will probably play together much better day 2. I'll update and use the lines at gametime to track the plays.
  • Nuggz
    SBR Sharp
    • 04-28-10
    • 366

    #2
    I would agree they could be undervalued in the early going but against Boston I would rather lay the 4 than play Cleveland.
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    • Mac4Lyfe
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 01-04-09
      • 48569

      #3
      Originally posted by Nuggz
      I would agree they could be undervalued in the early going but against Boston I would rather lay the 4 than play Cleveland.
      Oh, I agree. That line doesn't make much sense right now and sure doesn't seem undervalued. If Boston beats Miami easily then the line could go to double digits. If they lose and look tired then I could see -4 but not in the 2nd game of the season. Very perplexing...

      Heck, I might have to sell something to hammer Boston in this one. I do think the Cav's may play with a chip so maybe the books know this as well. I was hoping they would be double digit home dogs in this one
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      • sneak-a-peak
        SBR MVP
        • 11-07-09
        • 1373

        #4
        I agree with you.

        My prediction for the cavs ATS this year will be in the neighborhood of 45-35

        With a lot of those wins coming early in the year
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        • sweetjones55
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 04-07-09
          • 5257

          #5
          Cavs were -1 when this line came out if you thought the line at +5 was weird lol.
          Scared money don't make money

          182-120-6 (60.26%) Final Total NBA Record over 308 plays
          37-20-1 (65%) Record for the 2010 NBA PLAYOFFS
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          • ProfaneReality
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 04-14-09
            • 7607

            #6
            Cavs ML on Wednesday. They will wear Boston out 2nd half with their new princeton offense. Huge letdown spot for BOS
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            • rockaflocka
              SBR Sharp
              • 08-07-10
              • 482

              #7
              totally agree ML , they will run up and down vs old celtic team comming off game vs miami
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              • linewiz
                SBR High Roller
                • 05-18-10
                • 234

                #8
                Originally posted by Nuggz
                I would agree they could be undervalued in the early going but against Boston I would rather lay the 4 than play Cleveland.
                Agree with Mac's original post...this should be lower-tier team (though if you look at roster, cupboard is not completely bare in terms of talent) that has some value ATS in spots. Point well taken also regarding the early going, because if they surprise people early, line will adjust. So take a hard look at them for early handful of games. I expect them to put out max effort (after this summer's debacle) and steal a few. Helping their cause is choice of Byron Scott as coach. Probably a good fit..mixed results in NJ and NO, but he had to deal with players that had overwhelming presence at each stop...Kidd in NJ, Paul in NO. No one of that stature in Clev...I think he will have these guys playing hard for 48 minutes nightly.
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                • Mac4Lyfe
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 01-04-09
                  • 48569

                  #9
                  Originally posted by sweetjones55
                  Cavs were -1 when this line came out if you thought the line at +5 was weird lol.
                  Are you serious? Cav's -1? I would have hammered the C's big time on that shit. This is the 2nd game of the season. Why would the C's be tired after only 1 game? That's madness. I really don't see the Cav's winning this game and will probably lose by at least 7 or 8 points.

                  Wow, maybe the Cav's will be over valued
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                  • Mac4Lyfe
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 01-04-09
                    • 48569

                    #10
                    Current BetJam line...

                    704Cleveland Cavaliers +4½ -110 +160 Under 185 -110

                    I thought the line would be much higher. So much for undervalued. Let's see how they do the next few weeks. I'm on them ML just for fun tonight.
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                    • jbatcha21
                      SBR Sharp
                      • 09-27-10
                      • 271

                      #11
                      It probably wouldn't be a bad idea to go ahead and track how they do with the Over/Under also. I think they are going to play solid defense, but I don't see where their offense is going to come from.
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                      • Mac4Lyfe
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 01-04-09
                        • 48569

                        #12
                        Originally posted by jbatcha21
                        It probably wouldn't be a bad idea to go ahead and track how they do with the Over/Under also. I think they are going to play solid defense, but I don't see where their offense is going to come from.
                        Good idea...

                        BOS 23, 24, 26, 14 = 87
                        CLE 21, 25, 22, 27 = 95

                        Cleveland covers and wins outright and the game goes Under

                        1-0-0 ATS, 1/0 U/O
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                        • Mac4Lyfe
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 01-04-09
                          • 48569

                          #13
                          707Cleveland Cavaliers +4 -110 +150 Over 194½ -110
                          at Toronto

                          Screwed this up. I was trying to reply but edited this post. I mentioned that Toronto was the play with Mo and Verajao both out.

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                          • Mac4Lyfe
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 01-04-09
                            • 48569

                            #14
                            Cavaliers under has to be the play tonight.
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                            • zogdog
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 01-29-10
                              • 755

                              #15
                              I'm not sure if the game against Boston is a good indication of the Cavs future performances. Boston is an old team and the Cavs front line can run and I think those two factors played a decisive role.
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                              • Mac4Lyfe
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 01-04-09
                                • 48569

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                707Cleveland Cavaliers +4 -110 +150 Over 194½ -110


                                CLE 20 18 17 26 = 81
                                TOR 24 22 31 24 = 101

                                Cav's lose ATS and total goes Under again...

                                1-1-0 ATS, 2/0 U/O
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                                • Mac4Lyfe
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 01-04-09
                                  • 48569

                                  #17
                                  10/30 Sacramento at Cleveland
                                  504 CLE odds -3 -110 -155 Over 192½ -110

                                  503 Sacramento Kings
                                  34 19 31 23 = 107

                                  504 Cleveland Cavaliers
                                  34 33 15 22 = 104

                                  Cav's lose ATS and total goes OVER

                                  1-2-0 ATS, 2/1 U/O
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                                  • Mac4Lyfe
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 01-04-09
                                    • 48569

                                    #18
                                    Another night where the line doesn't look inflated. Hmmm, Looks like the books are giving the Cav's too much love so far.

                                    11/2 Atlanta at Cleveland

                                    702 Cleveland Cavaliers +3 -110 +130 Under 190½ -110


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                                    • Goat Milk
                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                      • 03-24-10
                                      • 25850

                                      #19
                                      still can't believe you said wade is washed up bro. he will easily lead the heat in scoring and is the real threat at MVP that no one is taking about. guys like durant don't win mvp in this stage in their career. it won't happen, sorry.
                                      Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                                      • Mac4Lyfe
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 01-04-09
                                        • 48569

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Goat Milk
                                        still can't believe you said wade is washed up bro. he will easily lead the heat in scoring and is the real threat at MVP that no one is taking about. guys like durant don't win mvp in this stage in their career. it won't happen, sorry.
                                        Wade getting the benefit of bullshit calls by the refs. The dude runs into people and gets to the line. It's horseshit. It's hard to even watch their games because they get every call in every game this season. Lebron just got another bullshit call. Pathetic

                                        Ok, the refs called an even game after the 1st in the Heat/Wolves game last night. 1st time out of 5 games that I've seen. Still have to consider the refs in Heat games and that alone makes them a good bet.
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                                        • Mac4Lyfe
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 01-04-09
                                          • 48569

                                          #21

                                          702 Cleveland Cavaliers +3 -110 +130 Under 190½ -110

                                          ATL 40 19 15 26 = 100
                                          CLE 27 20 26 15 = 88

                                          Cav's lose ATS and total goes UNDER

                                          1-3-0 ATS, 3/1 U/O

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                                          • Goat Milk
                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                            • 03-24-10
                                            • 25850

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                            Wade getting the benefit of bullshit calls by the refs. The dude runs into people and gets to the line. It's horseshit. It's hard to even watch their games because they get every call in every game this season. Lebron just got another bullshit call. Pathetic Ok, the refs called an even game after the 1st in the Heat/Wolves game last night. 1st time out of 5 games that I've seen. Still have to consider the refs in Heat games and that alone makes them a good bet.
                                            of course he will get the benefit. that is the luxury you have when your a superstar. the fact is public will be all over the heat for the whole season. if anything, refs don't want heat to cover. People will cry the whole year that Miami shoots so many FTs but they have two of the top 5 guys in the league for the past 6 years that are top 5 in FTs shot every year.

                                            Mac you are contradicting yourself when you say that every nba game is scripted and if that were the case miami would not be getting the "benefit" like you say. Wade and Lebron are running circles around teams. In a 7 game series Boston can't win more than 2 games. Boston was winded after that 1st game with wade's 1st game back in months.
                                            Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                                            • Mac4Lyfe
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 01-04-09
                                              • 48569

                                              #23
                                              11/5 Cavs at 76ers

                                              505 Cleveland Cavaliers +5 -110 +180 Over 188 -110
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                                              • Mac4Lyfe
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 01-04-09
                                                • 48569

                                                #24
                                                Cleveland 34 27 18 44 = 123
                                                Sixers 20 33 31 32 = 116

                                                Cav's Win ATS and straight up plus the total goes way OVER

                                                2-3-0 ATS, 3/2 U/O
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                                                • Mac4Lyfe
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 01-04-09
                                                  • 48569

                                                  #25
                                                  11/6 Cleveland at Washington Wiz

                                                  703 CLE Odds +4½ -110 Money Line +160 Totals 195 -110


                                                  703 Cleveland Cavaliers
                                                  27 32 17 31 = 107

                                                  704 Washington Wizards

                                                  28 23 25 26 =102

                                                  Cav's Win ATS and straight up plus the total goes OVER again

                                                  3-3-0 ATS, 3/3 U/O
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                                                  • Mac4Lyfe
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 01-04-09
                                                    • 48569

                                                    #26
                                                    11/9 Cav's at NJ Nets

                                                    503 CLE Odds +3 -110 Money Line +130 Totals 195½ -110
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                                                    • Mac4Lyfe
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 01-04-09
                                                      • 48569

                                                      #27
                                                      Cavaliers 23 22 18 30 = 93
                                                      Nets 23 19 23 26 = 91

                                                      Cav's Win ATS and straight up and the total goes UNDER

                                                      4-3-0 ATS, 4/3 U/O
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                                                      • dan213
                                                        SBR Rookie
                                                        • 10-25-10
                                                        • 23

                                                        #28
                                                        cavs have definately surprised me so far this year. i'm leaning w/ new jersey tomorrow though.
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                                                        • Mac4Lyfe
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 01-04-09
                                                          • 48569

                                                          #29
                                                          Cav's have been dogs in 6 of their 7 games thus far and have won outright ML 4 of the 6. So far it seems they are undervalued.
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                                                          • Mac4Lyfe
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 01-04-09
                                                            • 48569

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by dan213
                                                            cavs have definately surprised me so far this year. i'm leaning w/ new jersey tomorrow though.
                                                            Should be tough for them to beat the Net's 2 games in a row. Plus the only time they've been favored (Sacramento) at home they blew a big lead and didn't cover.

                                                            The Cav's are covering a lot of first quarter and first halfs though. I might go with Cavs 1st q and 1st half and the Net's for the game and take the Nets 2nd half as well. That may be all winners.

                                                            The Cav's have lost every third quarter this year. And not even close, they are getting blown out in the 3rd. They were bad in the 3rd the last few years with Lebron as well. Very strange trend.
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                                                            • Mac4Lyfe
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 01-04-09
                                                              • 48569

                                                              #31
                                                              At the same time, Cleveland has won the 4th quarter 5 of 7 times as well.
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                                                              • Mac4Lyfe
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 01-04-09
                                                                • 48569

                                                                #32
                                                                11/10 Nets at Cavs

                                                                Both teams played each other in NJ last night.

                                                                710 CLE Odds -4 -110 Money Line -175 Totals 193½ -110
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                                                                • Mac4Lyfe
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 01-04-09
                                                                  • 48569

                                                                  #33
                                                                  710 CLE Odds -4 -110 Money Line -175 Totals 193½ -110

                                                                  NJ 18 24 25 28 = 95
                                                                  CLE 25 27 17 18 = 87
                                                                  Cav's Lose ATS and the total goes UNDER. Plus they lose another 3rd quarter. They have yet to win a 3rd quarter all year.

                                                                  4-4-0 ATS, 5/3 U/O
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                                                                  • Mac4Lyfe
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 01-04-09
                                                                    • 48569

                                                                    #34
                                                                    11/13 Indiana at Cleveland

                                                                    506Cleveland Cavaliers -2 -110 -130 Under 201½ -110
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                                                                    • Mac4Lyfe
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 01-04-09
                                                                      • 48569

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                                                      11/13 Indiana at Cleveland

                                                                      506Cleveland Cavaliers -2 -110 -130 Under 201½ -110
                                                                      Cleveland had zero offense down the stretch without MoWill or AV tonight. The under has to be in play if they both are out again on Tuesday.

                                                                      505 Indiana Pacers 26 28 19 26 = 99
                                                                      506 Cleveland Cavaliers 30 24 14 17 = 85


                                                                      Cav's Lose ATS and the total goes UNDER again. Plus they lose another 3rd quarter. They have yet to win a 3rd quarter all year.

                                                                      4-5-0 ATS, 6/3 U/O
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