Interesting situation tomorrow: Wash at NY

**fearless** · 01-14-08, 06:56 PM

Before I make a bet on a terrible I ask myself: Why should I have ANY faith in this team? Occasionally there's a reason like Wade or Gasol. But with the Knicks, there's no reason whatsoever to have any faith in them, imho. Beyond the blowout of Detroit (which was obviously a fluke, imho), do you have any other reasons to have faith in the Knicks?

**jeffries** · 01-14-08, 07:23 PM

I'd never ever ever EVVVVVVVVVVERRRRRRR put my money on the Knicks, Bobcats or Grizzlies. All 3 teams are wayyyy to inconsistent. Portland has earned my respect however. Portland used to be really bad but they have really shown what they are capable of big time. I would always bet against Portland but now they have my respect and I consider them one of the better then average teams in the league

NY will always be garbage... Charlotte is starting to prove themselves that they can handle the elite teams of the league but they got more to prove.

**Crayzee** · 01-14-08, 08:04 PM

depends on the point spread
should be a very flat washington team after
boston games
would consider knicks play stronger depending how well wash plays tonite
strongest knick play would be if wash wins out tonite
weakest knick play or none at all if wash gets blown out tonite

**The HG** · 01-14-08, 08:05 PM

Originally posted by rainbowworld

Before I make a bet on a terrible I ask myself: Why should I have ANY faith in this team? Occasionally there's a reason like Wade or Gasol. But with the Knicks, there's no reason whatsoever to have any faith in them, imho. Beyond the blowout of Detroit (which was obviously a fluke, imho), do you have any other reasons to have faith in the Knicks?

Because I think from a talent perspective, the Knicks are not in the bottom tier in the league. Obviously there is something wrong with the organization internally, but if you look at their guys - Randolph, Curry (overrated I know but still a decent presence), Crawford, Q Rich, David Lee (good attitude, a winner), Robinson (ditto), Jeffries (see Curry), it does not look like a team that should be a home dog to a .500 team on the 4th of a 4 in 5.

**Crayzee** · 01-14-08, 08:05 PM

would think the line would be highest if washington won out tonite
so the line would be in favor of taking the knicks

**The HG** · 01-14-08, 08:07 PM

Also, I like that Marbury will be out. I think Marbury is a big cause of the Knicks' problems.

**Crayzee** · 01-14-08, 08:22 PM

uh oh-the line i see right now is washington-2

wouldve hoped for a bit more

**WestsidePete** · 01-14-08, 08:23 PM

I like the Knicks angle here...I took them on Sunday after that close road win by Detroit on Saturday and will take the Knicks tomorrow as well...nice angle HG..I wasn't even thinking about tomorrow's game but like it...

**WestsidePete** · 01-14-08, 08:25 PM

Originally posted by Crayzee

uh oh-the line i see right now is washington-2

wouldve hoped for a bit more

I would think if Was loses tonite the general public will bet that they'll win tomorrow...yes??

**durito** · 01-14-08, 09:16 PM

Knicks are 23-36 ATS after a straight up and ATS win the last 2+ years. (5-9 ATS as a home dog) That includes 1-7 ATS this year.

**WestsidePete** · 01-14-08, 10:12 PM

ok now Was wins....you guys feel a let down for tomorrow??

**The HG** · 01-14-08, 10:37 PM

Originally posted by WestsidePete

ok now Was wins....you guys feel a let down for tomorrow??

Tough one. Problem is every time the Knicks play is a letdown situation for them.

There is a difference here that makes me wary. Detroit is a long-time elite team, but Washington is different. They are underrated in my opinion, and kind of in "prove themselves" mode now, especially with Arenas out. They may be physically worn down, but I don't think psychologically they are in a bad spot at all, in fact they're in a great spot, having just swept an elite team and now stepping down in class.

I'll probably just put in a chippie bet on the Knicks ML, and leave it at that unless something comes up tomorrow.

**stump** · 01-15-08, 12:34 AM

betting this game over

**W0lfy** · 01-15-08, 12:59 AM

This game can easily go both ways. Washington might bust a Detroit and take Knicks as a joke after beating a tough team. Risky risky.

**OegNo** · 01-15-08, 04:46 AM

knicks will be a lot more rested up than the wizards for tuesday game, however I believe the wizards are a (much)better team, regardless of the homecourt advantage, my money's on washington

**jeffries** · 01-15-08, 05:07 AM

Knicks are garbage bottom line. Don't take them. They got lucky because Detroit underestimated them and came into Madison Square Garden thinking Knicks were gonna just lie down and not try but it backfired.. I'll never bet on the Knicks, but that damn faggot Jamall Crawford cost me $500 last tikme I bet against the Knicks cuz he had to keep making shots yet they never won

**MonkeyF0cker** · 01-15-08, 07:07 AM

I have to lay off this one. The Knicks have the talent and look of a playoff contender one game then lose by 20+ the next. Along with the back to back for the Wiz, I really can't be certain how either team is going to show up. I think it'll be a tight game at the end. Too hard to call..

**jeffries** · 01-15-08, 07:39 AM

Knicks lose by 31

Washington 105
NY Knicks 74

Knicks are an embarassment to the NBA. Jamaal Crawford carries that team

**CashMoney** · 01-15-08, 11:11 AM

As a die hard knicks fan

I'm going with Washington tonight. The Pistons win had more to do with Detroit not being able to shoot the ball as opposed to the Knicks actually playing well.

The Wizzards beating the Celtics was not a fluke. The Wizzards are a pretty good team even without Arenas and the Knicks are do for a L. If the Wizzards handled GPA I see no problem in them handling Randolph, Crawford and Q Rich.

Super safe bet is the Wiz on the money line but taking the Wiz on the spread isn't that far off anyway.

**beaneaters** · 01-15-08, 02:02 PM

I'm taking a Wiz . . . ha ha . . .

Washington pumped after beating Boston.
New York pumped after beating Detroit.

I trust Washington to be more legitimate than the Knicks.

**jeffries** · 01-15-08, 02:06 PM

a class of 6th grade peewee's for the school basketball team can play better ball then the NY Knicks (without Jamaal Crawford)

**Data** · 01-15-08, 10:01 PM

Originally posted by The HG

My lean for now is pretty strong, although I haven't bet it yet, and will probably go a lot lighter than my current lean.

You must have seen something in this situation that I am yet to understand.

If forced I would take the Wizards tonight.

I have seen nothing that would warrant the strong lean but I think you are onto something here. Great call, any more insight appreciated.

**The HG** · 01-16-08, 12:00 AM

Originally posted by Data

You must have seen something in this situation that I am yet to understand.

If forced I would take the Wizards tonight.

I have seen nothing that would warrant the strong lean but I think you are onto something here. Great call, any more insight appreciated.

The Knicks being off of such a big win I though might let free some of their locked-up talent. I thought they were underachieving for a long time, and was always keeping an eye out for spots where their roster talent might emerge.

Like I said, no Marbury helps a lot IMO. I think he really drags them down, when he's out they have more life.

**WestsidePete** · 01-16-08, 12:04 AM

you could see this coming...now tomorrow is NJ-8.5..this seems crazy to me...unless NY is due for a big let down after the last 2 wins...

**Data** · 01-16-08, 12:22 AM

Originally posted by The HG

The Knicks being off of such a big win I though might let free some of their locked-up talent.

I can see that but I have not found this to be a big angle and it seems it was accounted in the line. I was wondering if you saw something else.

Like I said, no Marbury helps a lot IMO. I think he really drags them down, when he's out they have more life.

He is been out for a while, so, while it helps, evidently it does not help a lot. My take is that they are dragged down by him, Curry and Isaiah. Get rid of these three and the Knicks are good, get rid of any two of them and the Knicks are decent.

**CashMoney** · 01-16-08, 08:04 AM

THat's it....I'm done with the Knick for the rest of the season. Everytime I bet against them they win and when I bet for them to cover a spread they get blown out by 20. There to unpredictable and I want no part of their game with the Nets tonight.

**jeffries** · 01-16-08, 06:29 PM

David Lee is ugly