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  • Kev the Brit
    SBR MVP
    • 10-25-09
    • 2027

    #3081
    Originally posted by MakeItRain14
    I understand what v1 v2 and v3 are.... But which one would u consider the best to lay a few more $ on
    crzychu submitted a set of stats (November?) that suggested that, over the last 5 years or so, V3 is the most reliable, then V2.

    ps go to page 53, posts 1822 and 1824
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    • cmdyrds
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 08-20-09
      • 522

      #3082
      guys,

      not sure if anyone follows the TPS (triple play system) but i opened a new thread as the old one was closed for some reason. looking for some input as i don't subscribe but have the info pertaining to it.

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      • Kev the Brit
        SBR MVP
        • 10-25-09
        • 2027

        #3083
        Originally posted by MakeItRain14
        I understand what v1 v2 and v3 are.... But which one would u consider the best to lay a few more $ on
        go to page 53, posts 1822 and 1824.
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        • chivemmali
          Restricted User
          • 10-29-10
          • 281

          #3084
          Originally posted by MakeItRain14
          I understand what v1 v2 and v3 are.... But which one would u consider the best to lay a few more $ on


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          • krzychu78
            SBR Sharp
            • 01-08-10
            • 291

            #3085
            Guys, i think i will try keep tracking here V1, V2 and V3 records for the rest ot the season.
            V3 is posted above. V1 and V2 are (only finished series):
            V1: 20-2
            (A): 7-15
            (B): 10-5
            (C): 3-2
            Lost series:
            PHO 11/17-20
            DET 12/07-10

            V2: 13-1
            (A): 9-5
            (B): 2-3
            (C): 2-1
            Lost series:
            MIN 10/30-11/03

            Do you agree with them? I didn't apply any filters (ML, injuries, best or worst team).
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            • MakeItRain14
              SBR High Roller
              • 12-13-10
              • 101

              #3086
              Ok thanks guys
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              • hagball52
                SBR MVP
                • 09-22-10
                • 3053

                #3087
                Originally posted by krzychu78
                Guys, i think i will try keep tracking here V1, V2 and V3 records for the rest ot the season.
                V3 is posted above. V1 and V2 are (only finished series):
                V1: 20-2
                (A): 7-15
                (B): 10-5
                (C): 3-2
                Lost series:
                PHO 11/17-20
                DET 12/07-10

                V2: 13-1
                (A): 9-5
                (B): 2-3
                (C): 2-1
                Lost series:
                MIN 10/30-11/03

                Do you agree with them? I didn't apply any filters (ML, injuries, best or worst team).
                Looks good to me. I've been tracking them also on a spreadsheet. Thanks for not filtering out the Phoenix loss like Morrison did. I like accurate numbers.
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                • GGPLAYER
                  SBR MVP
                  • 03-26-09
                  • 2981

                  #3088
                  Originally posted by krzychu78
                  Guys, i think i will try keep tracking here V1, V2 and V3 records for the rest ot the season.
                  V3 is posted above. V1 and V2 are (only finished series):
                  V1: 20-2
                  (A): 7-15
                  (B): 10-5
                  (C): 3-2
                  Lost series:
                  PHO 11/17-20
                  DET 12/07-10

                  V2: 13-1
                  (A): 9-5
                  (B): 2-3
                  (C): 2-1
                  Lost series:
                  MIN 10/30-11/03

                  Do you agree with them? I didn't apply any filters (ML, injuries, best or worst team).

                  Great breakdown and I agree with your findings. I have the V1 with Pho and Det, V2 was Minn and V3 Clev. 4 series loses is sort of scary. Is JM owning up to any of these? Just curious.

                  What I find more interesting is that based on these numbers it makes the most sense to bet the A bets for V2 and wait till a B with V1,V3. Just a thought.
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                  • imotiv8
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 12-28-09
                    • 892

                    #3089
                    Originally posted by cmdyrds
                    guys, not sure if anyone follows the TPS (triple play system) but i opened a new thread as the old one was closed for some reason. looking for some input as i don't subscribe but have the info pertaining to it. http://forum.sbrforum.com/service-pl...ystem-tps.html
                    is detroit a b triple bet play on their next game?
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                    • stevex
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 05-02-10
                      • 5122

                      #3090
                      Lets get these tn fellas. Raptors and Spurs.
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                      • J.M. Disciple
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 11-16-10
                        • 5154

                        #3091
                        Originally posted by imotiv8
                        is detroit a b triple bet play on their next game?
                        Detroit was a C wager loss.
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                        • J.M. Disciple
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 11-16-10
                          • 5154

                          #3092
                          If you all apply Stanely's rule of not betting the 1st series if the team has another series with in a month, then there is only 1 loss i believe this season.
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                          • J.M. Disciple
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 11-16-10
                            • 5154

                            #3093
                            Originally posted by krzychu78
                            Guys, i think i will try keep tracking here V1, V2 and V3 records for the rest ot the season.
                            V3 is posted above. V1 and V2 are (only finished series):
                            V1: 20-2
                            (A): 7-15
                            (B): 10-5
                            (C): 3-2
                            Lost series:
                            PHO 11/17-20
                            DET 12/07-10

                            V2: 13-1
                            (A): 9-5
                            (B): 2-3
                            (C): 2-1
                            Lost series:
                            MIN 10/30-11/03

                            Do you agree with them? I didn't apply any filters (ML, injuries, best or worst team).
                            Apply stanely's rule and min would not be a series cause it was their first road trip of the season under the first 3 games. Ask Wilba about it, he knows more about the rule. It wouldn't count as a series.
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                            • J.M. Disciple
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 11-16-10
                              • 5154

                              #3094
                              Originally posted by J.M. Disciple
                              01/05/11
                              V3: Toronto B +4
                              v1: San Antonio B +4.5

                              I should have waited until today to get my bets in.

                              New lines are better today than yesterday.

                              John Morrison
                              Toronto B +5.5
                              Spurs B +5

                              TPS
                              MIL +15 [A]
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                              • COYLO
                                SBR MVP
                                • 10-18-10
                                • 2844

                                #3095
                                Originally posted by J.M. Disciple
                                I should have waited until today to get my bets in.

                                New lines are better today than yesterday.

                                John Morrison
                                Toronto B +5.5
                                Spurs B +5
                                that with buying the points??
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                                • J.M. Disciple
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 11-16-10
                                  • 5154

                                  #3096
                                  Yes, thats with buying the points.

                                  Also SBP has Milwaukee +12 [B] today.
                                  Still waiting for updated version.
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                                  • COYLO
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 10-18-10
                                    • 2844

                                    #3097
                                    thanks j.m.

                                    sbp is that sports betting professor?? whats his win/loss like?
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                                    • stevex
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 05-02-10
                                      • 5122

                                      #3098
                                      Just so people don't have to go looking around and all that hard stuff

                                      NBA CRUSHER: Clippers
                                      SBP Original: Bucks
                                      SBP Updated: Celtics
                                      JM NBA: V.1 Spurs, V.3 Toronto

                                      I didn't post the lines because depending on what book you use it might be a half point different, but there all dogs except the Celts. Lets get it tonight folks!
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                                      • SpookyFellow
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 08-01-09
                                        • 1687

                                        #3099
                                        Originally posted by JW Cash
                                        Spooky....

                                        The way I play Spurs is the same as I outlined in my previous post on how
                                        I do the labby..

                                        The A Bet is on Spurs ML on Line 1

                                        If it loses.....I play B Bet on Line 2
                                        and if it loses , I will play C Bet on Line 1.....with the money allocation
                                        percentages I described...




                                        AND J M Disciple.....I dont need any help in
                                        questions that are directed at me.....ok? ...........just sayin
                                        OK, on 12/29 John had Golden State Warriors as a V1 [A] bet. It was a win with buying 3 points, but a loss without buying 3 points.

                                        Did you continue playing Golden State with your 2-line labby?

                                        Continuing playing when John has officially considered a serie as finished could be a little risky.
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                                        • Kev the Brit
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 10-25-09
                                          • 2027

                                          #3100
                                          Originally posted by imotiv8
                                          is detroit a b triple bet play on their next game?
                                          Originally posted by J.M. Disciple
                                          Detroit was a C wager loss.
                                          guys, I've replied to your posts in the new thread. Please check. http://forum.sbrforum.com/service-pl...ystem-tps.html

                                          Kev
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                                          • GGPLAYER
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 03-26-09
                                            • 2981

                                            #3101
                                            Originally posted by J.M. Disciple
                                            I should have waited until today to get my bets in.

                                            New lines are better today than yesterday.

                                            John Morrison
                                            Toronto B +5.5
                                            Spurs B +5

                                            TPS
                                            MIL +15 [A]

                                            I have seen SA at 2.5 today but not Tor??Did you just reverse those? I usually wait with dogs but have noticed with JM plays the line usually gets pounded down. Getting the Spurs with points is nice.
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                                            • Kev the Brit
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 10-25-09
                                              • 2027

                                              #3102
                                              V1: 20-2
                                              (A): 7-15
                                              (B): 10-5
                                              (C): 3-2
                                              Lost series:
                                              PHO 11/17-20
                                              DET 12/07-10

                                              V2: 13-1
                                              (A): 9-5
                                              (B): 2-3
                                              (C): 2-1
                                              Lost series:
                                              MIN 10/30-11/03

                                              V3 record so far (finished series): 28-1
                                              (A): 15-14
                                              (B): 12-2
                                              (C): 1-1
                                              Lost series:
                                              CLE 12/04-07
                                              so, pulling it all together, we have:

                                              65 series, producing
                                              61 winners @ 1 unit = 61 units credit
                                              4 losers @ 18 units = 72 units debit
                                              result = 10 units loss (this is approx, depending on amounts risked in the lost series)

                                              ummm, not good. Not much slack available in the next 95 series (all versions). We will probabaly lose another 1 or 2 more series, so we need to be prepared to lose another 40 units.

                                              My forecast for this season: max profit 45 units.

                                              Bottom line: if you want to win a reasonable amount this year, you're gonna have to pump up the value of your unit, but be careful. maybe increase it by half, something like that.

                                              Kev
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                                              • SportsTerminator
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 02-18-09
                                                • 5179

                                                #3103
                                                Any word on Dirk Nowitzki? I would hate to get the early Oklahoma line, and then find out Dirk is playing later effecting the lines of course. Without Dirk I think the line may be Dallas -1 or -2 tough call here...
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                                                • kjrudemi
                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                  • 12-20-10
                                                  • 105

                                                  #3104
                                                  Originally posted by JW Cash
                                                  I do a 2 line labby for every 3 game chase sequence I use...... I play the A Bet on Line 1 if the A bet loses I divide the loss and put 65% on Line 2 and the other 35% on Line 1 The reason is that the B Bet has a higher pct to win... I also divide a loss into all 4 variables of the line.... i.e. 10-10-10-10 10-10-10-10 If the A bet loses ....I have a $22 loss.... And 65% of the $22 loss goes to Line 2 and 35% goes to Line 1 12-12-12-12 13.57-13.57-13.57-13.57 If B Bet loses I have a loss of $29.85 I simply divide that loss by 50% and add it to the 2 lines and they look like this... 15.73-15.73-15.73-15.73 17.47-17.47-17.47-17.47 You can round those numbers up or down if you like.... My goal is to clear Line 1 TWICE before I increase my base wager.... So to clear Line 1 TWICE..means a Profit of $80.....so as I am playing my lines each day....and I see a profit of $80 after a day's games are tabulated...then I quit that particular labby regardless of how the lines look....... I start a NEW labby at 15-15-15-15 15-15-15-15 and you just ...wash..rinse..repeat... A labby is just a great way to use different bet sizes to accumulate a pre-determined profit goal... And yes.....if you are doing JM Crusher SBP Solaman.....etc... You should have a 2 line labby for each system you use... Hope This Helps....
                                                  JW, thanks for the info. I have one question. Let's say you win your B bet and now you have:
                                                  12-12-12-12
                                                  X-13.57-13.57-X

                                                  When you begin a new betting series, what labby lines do you begin with now? Do you begin over at 10-10-10-10 for both lines or do you carry what was previously left from that B wager win over and base the new series lines off that? Thanks for your help.
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                                                  • J.M. Disciple
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 11-16-10
                                                    • 5154

                                                    #3105
                                                    Originally posted by Kev the Brit
                                                    so, pulling it all together, we have:

                                                    65 series, producing
                                                    61 winners @ 1 unit = 61 units credit
                                                    4 losers @ 18 units = 72 units debit
                                                    result = 10 units loss (this is approx, depending on amounts risked in the lost series)

                                                    ummm, not good. Not much slack available in the next 95 series (all versions). We will probabaly lose another 1 or 2 more series, so we need to be prepared to lose another 40 units.

                                                    My forecast for this season: max profit 45 units.

                                                    Bottom line: if you want to win a reasonable amount this year, you're gonna have to pump up the value of your unit, but be careful. maybe increase it by half, something like that.

                                                    Kev
                                                    I'm up money actually. You have to apply certain filters as i stated before. Ignore the mL filter and injury filter, but apply STANELY'S FILTER AND as wilba said dont bet on a team that has their first road series first 3 games of the series (Min would cancel that series). There for should be up around 30-40 units. And look to put in another 30-40 units by end of the season.
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                                                    • J.M. Disciple
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 11-16-10
                                                      • 5154

                                                      #3106
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                                                      • JW Cash
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 12-31-08
                                                        • 4453

                                                        #3107
                                                        Originally posted by Kev the Brit
                                                        so, pulling it all together, we have:

                                                        65 series, producing
                                                        61 winners @ 1 unit = 61 units credit
                                                        4 losers @ 18 units = 72 units debit
                                                        result = 10 units loss (this is approx, depending on amounts risked in the lost series)

                                                        ummm, not good. Not much slack available in the next 95 series (all versions). We will probabaly lose another 1 or 2 more series, so we need to be prepared to lose another 40 units.

                                                        My forecast for this season: max profit 45 units.

                                                        Bottom line: if you want to win a reasonable amount this year, you're gonna have to pump up the value of your unit, but be careful. maybe increase it by half, something like that.

                                                        Kev


                                                        ...so you actually bet 18 Units on the dreaded C Bet.....

                                                        After everything you have read in this thread.....
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                                                        • Wilba
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 10-29-10
                                                          • 702

                                                          #3108
                                                          Originally posted by JW Cash
                                                          ...so you actually bet 18 Units on the dreaded C Bet.....

                                                          After everything you have read in this thread.....


                                                          Guess my grandma was right when she said.....

                                                          " Some people are way beyond help "

                                                          May she RIP.....
                                                          HE is talking about an 18 unit loss over the 3 game series, A. B, and C loss included.

                                                          If you only bet B/C you are up good money this season. I discussed this a week or so ago when I did the calculations showing where u at betting only B/C as compared to A/B/C (currently down 15 units for a/b/c (when you included the A losses from series pending), and up well over 10 units for B/C only, approximately)
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                                                          • Wilba
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 10-29-10
                                                            • 702

                                                            #3109
                                                            Originally posted by J.M. Disciple
                                                            Detroit was a C wager loss.
                                                            Why would you state this when you are not even a subscriber / do not understand the system properly?

                                                            If you were either of these things you would know that detroit yesterday was a TPS 'B' loss yesterday, not a C
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                                                            • Wilba
                                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                                              • 10-29-10
                                                              • 702

                                                              #3110
                                                              Besides, I am not sure I understand why anyone would dread a JM NBA sys C loss, ever. They have by far the best win % and are by far the best money making opportunities.
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                                                              • Wallco99
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 01-01-11
                                                                • 7261

                                                                #3111
                                                                Originally posted by GGPLAYER
                                                                Great breakdown and I agree with your findings. I have the V1 with Pho and Det, V2 was Minn and V3 Clev. 4 series loses is sort of scary. Is JM owning up to any of these? Just curious.

                                                                What I find more interesting is that based on these numbers it makes the most sense to bet the A bets for V2 and wait till a B with V1,V3. Just a thought.
                                                                Just Detroit, the rest didn't happen!
                                                                according to Mr. Wizard
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                                                                • COYLO
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 10-18-10
                                                                  • 2844

                                                                  #3112
                                                                  what a nail biter sas v boston
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                                                                  • SportsTerminator
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 02-18-09
                                                                    • 5179

                                                                    #3113
                                                                    Boston still hasn't learned from last Championship... but it sure looked like the refs had Spurs JM B bet...
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                                                                    • Wallco99
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 01-01-11
                                                                      • 7261

                                                                      #3114
                                                                      Originally posted by Kev the Brit
                                                                      so, pulling it all together, we have:

                                                                      65 series, producing
                                                                      61 winners @ 1 unit = 61 units credit
                                                                      4 losers @ 18 units = 72 units debit
                                                                      result = 10 units loss (this is approx, depending on amounts risked in the lost series)

                                                                      ummm, not good. Not much slack available in the next 95 series (all versions). We will probabaly lose another 1 or 2 more series, so we need to be prepared to lose another 40 units.

                                                                      My forecast for this season: max profit 45 units.

                                                                      Bottom line: if you want to win a reasonable amount this year, you're gonna have to pump up the value of your unit, but be careful. maybe increase it by half, something like that.

                                                                      Kev
                                                                      I still say not buying points is the most profitable, ran all the math for a few yaers. But some on here wish to disagree. I am not down as much as them. My losses are only 8 units/loss. I can lose twice as many bets as those paying 18 units/loss, which doesn't happen, and still have two units more than them. To each there own, no one is wrong unless they go bankrupt.
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                                                                      • JW Cash
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 12-31-08
                                                                        • 4453

                                                                        #3115
                                                                        ...winna...winna.....Chicken Pot Pie..dinna......


                                                                        Great wins on Toronto.....and....Spurs.....and yes.....Portland ( I didnt buy the 3 last night)

                                                                        And the icing on the cake 2nite is Team Canada's Total Collapse in the World Juniors Gold Medal
                                                                        game...


                                                                        Oh..what a Great Night
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