John Morrison 2010 NBA

[J.M. Disciple]

SBP. Play today phoenix suns. -6.5* a C bet

Also the updated system is Toronto +5* [A]

As i stated before you could bet to win 2 units with this system and it would be equivalent to JM's System, but this system seems to be doing a lot better this year.

39-2
and 40-2

79-4 at 2 units each and a loss = 16 units

158 units in wins (79x 2) minus 64 (16 x 4) = +94 units this season if you have followed both systems betting to win 2 units.

[jphil]

JM's POTPOURI THREAD:


So, again, what are the smorgasbord of picks today for jm, jmd, sbp, tps, solomon, chase 110, nhl(v1), stanley77, wanna make some serious cash, & crusher? (did i miss anything?)


We should tranfer all of this & combine it w/ ELCAP's thread. He'd love that.

OK. So where's the TPS thread on a daily basis since it was closed?


"Im not going to respond any more to off topic systems." (JMD QUOTE). 30 pts. says ya will within 30 days. i'm kiddin w/ ya bro.

[rkelly110]

Wallco, Why would you do that, writing to Morrison like that? Jesus, you could screw it up for everyone. He doesn't need to know we have threads on his systems. You pretty much called
him a dick. Well, without his systems, there wouldn't be threads like this would there?

Laugh at his e-mails and move on.

That is his business, his job. We are actually like the Chinese, stealing someone's product
and making it our own. He's successful in what he does. He's not twisting your arm to bet
his picks. Losing comes with the territory, if you can't handle it, you know what to do.

[J.M. Disciple]

It's awful strange, I brought this exact point up about two weeks ago. I said " I thought this was a John Morrison site, it seems to be everything but". There were several responses to this, all saying that our intent was to make money, and just a JM system would get boring and limit the money we could make together. Make up your damn minds. I come up with something that may make us all some money, and you want me to hide it somewhere else, when all the peolple I want to share it with are already here, on this thread. I was just acting on your post from last week, that people need to start doing some work, and stop logging in here for a free lunch, even though, I already was doing my work. I'll tell you what, when I stop seeing TPS, SBP, NHL, Solomon,, crusher and whatever the hell else is on here, besides JM, then I will start a new thread. But until then, let the people who don't share your opinion have the option to see a decent system. Just do what I've been doing, skip the posts that don't interest you. We are all in it for the same reasons, and many of us are playing several of the systems described on here. We have actually come up with new systems based on combining some of the other. That's what makes this thread great. Why should we go to five different places, when we play the same systems and currently have one. I agree with you on NHL, we did get a little carried away there. But if we have NBA systems that are working for us, keep them in a group, I think a lot can be learned from this site the way it is. Sorry Kev. for the "not helpful" comment. But I felt you were just singleing me out, when there are several others doing similar posts, and until now, it was OK. Sorry.

I guess you are right. He wasn't singling you out though. I have been called out on that once or twice myself. I guess to be fair, I would say try to keep talk about other systems limited instead of an in depth discussion about it. I have had several people PM me asking questions about different systems, instead of just reading the forum lol.

Most of us know how all the systems work anyways now, so for now on we should be able to just post plays on here with out having to discuss the systems any further.

your "not helpful" comment was a little disrespectful though. GLad you admitted that.

[J.M. Disciple]

JM's POTPOURI THREAD:


So, again, what are the smorgasbord of picks today for jm, jmd, sbp, tps, solomon, chase 110, nhl(v1), stanley77, wanna make some serious cash, & crusher? (did i miss anything?)


We should tranfer all of this & combine it w/ ELCAP's thread. He'd love that.

OK. So where's the TPS thread on a daily basis since it was closed?


"Im not going to respond any more to off topic systems." (JMD QUOTE). 30 pts. says ya will within 30 days. i'm kiddin w/ ya bro.

Am I allowed to bet against myself? lol

[jphil]

Am I allowed to bet against myself? lol

Certainly!! Yuk! Yuk!! (wish they had a STOOGES icon on here)

[jphil]

Wallco, Why would you do that, writing to Morrison like that? Jesus, you could screw it up for everyone. He doesn't need to know we have threads on his systems. You pretty much called
him a dick. Well, without his systems, there wouldn't be threads like this would there?

Laugh at his e-mails and move on.

That is his business, his job. We are actually like the Chinese, stealing someone's product
and making it our own. He's successful in what he does. He's not twisting your arm to bet
his picks. Losing comes with the territory, if you can't handle it, you know what to do.

RK110: Well, if it wasn't already broadcast enough, i quess the worms have really escaped the can this time! good one rk.

[J.M. Disciple]

no @ gs (1/26), sac (1/29), pho (1/30)

den @ cle (1/28), phi (1/30), nj (1/31)

bos @ pho (1/28), lal (1/30), sac (2/1)

cha @ lac (1/29), ut (1/31), det (2/2)

tor @ mn (1/29), ind (1/31), atl (2/2)

wa @ mem (1/29), dal (1/31), no (2/1)

hou @ sa (1/29), lal (2/1), ut (2/2)

mil @ lac (1/31), pho (2/2), gs (2/3)

this is for soloman once again betting halvs for the home team.


SBP phx -6.5 [c]
sbp updated toronto +5 [a]

JM: New orleans +1 after buyign 3pts. [A]

[c-fut]

I don't have access to my schedule spradsheet to see what games for today. Is Utah a "C" play?

[maserati]

Any plays tonite? Thx

[Kev the Brit]

Any plays tonite? Thx

NOH @ GSW V3 A Bet

[dukipl]

gl all

[Kev the Brit]

Wallco

Sorry Kev. for the "not helpful" comment. But I felt you were just singleing me out, when there are several others doing similar posts, and until now, it was OK. Sorry.

No problem. We all have ideas to talk about and a "known group of friendly folk" is always a good place to bounce new ideas around. I was, in a clumsy way, suggesting that you might want to consider starting a new thread. It will not be hidden in a corner. It works, therefore it will get a following.

Kind regards
Kev

[Wallco99]

Wallco, Why would you do that, writing to Morrison like that? Jesus, you could screw it up for everyone. He doesn't need to know we have threads on his systems. You pretty much called
him a dick. Well, without his systems, there wouldn't be threads like this would there?

Laugh at his e-mails and move on.

That is his business, his job. We are actually like the Chinese, stealing someone's product
and making it our own. He's successful in what he does. He's not twisting your arm to bet
his picks. Losing comes with the territory, if you can't handle it, you know what to do.

Losing is not the problem, I didn't believe the 97% win rate anyway. The lies are the issue. He's sold his product to me under false pretenses, and as a paying customer, it pissed me off. My emails started long before this thread, when he wasn't giving me what he promised, and there was no thread to help me understand the falsehoods he spreads. And don't fool yourself into believing that he doesn't know these threads exist. He logs into many of them, and actually posts reponses to negative criticism on two of them that I've seen. And the tone there is much worse than anything on here.

[Wallco99]

I guess you are right. He wasn't singling you out though. I have been called out on that once or twice myself. I guess to be fair, I would say try to keep talk about other systems limited instead of an in depth discussion about it. I have had several people PM me asking questions about different systems, instead of just reading the forum lol.

Most of us know how all the systems work anyways now, so for now on we should be able to just post plays on here with out having to discuss the systems any further.

your "not helpful" comment was a little disrespectful though. GLad you admitted that.

Will do. The system has been explained in previous posts and no more explanation posts will be submitted by me. Just picks and standings aa they come up. Any questions on system, do as J.M.D suggested, send me a PM. I am not trying to ruin the thread, but rather keep it interesting and offer more wager options each night. Thanks.

[jmjj]

I know this has been discussed before but if someone can confirm my math I would appreciate it! Currently we are 32-3 (Ver 1). If I was buying 3pts and getting -170 then it would cost me 18.7 units (A-1.7 units, B-4.6 units, C-12.4 units) if the bet went to the C .So by chasing 3-games this season I would be -24.1 units (32*1 unit - 3*18.7 units). Now if I was playing the B and C bets only, keeping it at the same 18 unit level (B-5.1 units, C-13.7 units), I would only be down -2.4 units (18*3 units - 3*18.8 units) for the season.

hey mitch hows it going bro I confirm that the v1.0 info u posted is incorrect not b/c of u but b/c of others who keep saying we lost that Phoenix series and we did not respect or dont respect for all I care what JM says to do which is when the best player is out stop series and that series u shouldnt have played past the A bet so it isnt a loss per say its just a loss against your bankroll for the A bet we've officially only lost 2 v1.0 plays this which are.....

the Pistons and recently Utah thats it not sure about v2.0 & v3.0 havent been keeping up with them this yr just had to post this info b/c someone on page 112 said we had 3 v1.0 losses so far as well and we have not I dont care what JM posts on his site about us only losing 1 not telling the truth or fibbing the #s the truth belongs here on this forum and to those who accurately and factually keep up with every true play under the system

[jphil]

"Losing is not the problem, I didn't believe the 97% win rate anyway. The lies are the issue. He's sold his product to me under false pretenses, and as a paying customer, it pissed me off. My emails started long before this thread, when he wasn't giving me what he promised, and there was no thread to help me understand the falsehoods he spreads. And don't fool yourself into believing that he doesn't know these threads exist. He logs into many of them, and actually posts reponses to negative criticism on two of them that I've seen. And the tone there is much worse than anything on here."

-You'll be readin a similiar post as your's above, from someone else a couple yrs. down the road, and be thinkin to yourself; "I use to post that same kinda stuff myself".



"And don't fool yourself into believing that he doesn't know these threads exist. He logs into many of them, and actually posts reponses to negative criticism on two of them that I've seen. And the tone there is much worse than anything on here.[/quote]"



-That remains to be seen. And under what name was he posting these responses to neg. criticism that ya mentioned. I'm about as anti jm(as a person) as it gets, but his sys's seem to work the last 3 yrs.; just can't handle his corruption otherwise. Ya had to have seen what i wrote to him in previous times(& the language/not proud of it). I'd of been kicked off this thread by the mods, for even having posted it.



-You & RK 110 gave out way too much info than necessary, to the www, on this subject. But i still love ya's.

[jmjj]

Wallco, Why would you do that, writing to Morrison like that? Jesus, you could screw it up for everyone. He doesn't need to know we have threads on his systems. You pretty much called
him a dick. Well, without his systems, there wouldn't be threads like this would there?

Laugh at his e-mails and move on.

That is his business, his job. We are actually like the Chinese, stealing someone's product
and making it our own. He's successful in what he does. He's not twisting your arm to bet
his picks. Losing comes with the territory, if you can't handle it, you know what to do.

well he can write to him and do what he wants but in all honesty how does telling him that people are wise to his s hit bother anybody here? what hes going to do sue the owner of this site? and ask them to take down these threads about him? sureeeeeee LOL!!!!!!!!

that would entail the scumbag to admit that John Morrison isnt his real name his not a Dr. he doesnt even know where Cornell is at and also hes probably no older than say 30yrs old?? so he never would get huffy or legal b/c he cant he knows that there is as much good and bad about him on the net the guy isnt that f ucking dumb and also saying he's been betting for 30 yrs sureeee he has its all lies so if anyone wants to call him a d ick or b itch slap him he more than ever especially the last 1 1/2 yr deserves it

if the guy would own up quit bold face lieing then he would get all of the respect in the world he should take a cue from JJTPS that may or may not be his real name but who cares we've lost this yr in his system and at least he didnt polish it off or hide from it or change the rules midstream like JM has done

[jmjj]

I just had to post this, I finally got a response from JM on one of my many spiteful emails to him, so he does get them. It came from his personal email, I always send them to both. It was in reference to his latest email about BETol.com that he is trying to push on us. The first one is mine, then his response:

On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:54 PM, <Wallco******@aol.com> wrote:

Let me guess. We sign up there with some bogus promo code that you give us so they know we are your referrals, and that we bet the games under your system. So every time we log onto that site, we can be sure the lines on those games will be two points lower than all other sites or much higher juice, the same way you concockted this shit at BETUS. At least for the idiots who would put there $ there in the first place. Perhaps you should read some of the many forums about you online. You are not as well respected as you like to tell yourself you are. Actually, I believe we know your systems and play your systems better than you, and we back test everything on there, so we know your actual stats for seasons past, not the ones you fabricate on your site. I was foolish to pay for your one system. But I know every version of every sport you offer, without giving you any more money. You will never receive any more money from me, and soon, from anyone. You lie to people, and they are catching on fast. You ripped off somebody else's system, and sold it as your own, that is despicable. But as long as you are happy, good for you.

In a message dated 1/25/2011 7:30:03 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, raddles@gmail.com writes:

Hi Rick

Rest assured that is not true. My system is everything I have advertised it to be, and much more. I will not take offense to a handful of amateurs who type negative comments in forums each day, and consider that the general consensus of my reputation as a sports handicapper. I am sorry that is your opinion, but I am sure you are in the minority in this case.

Best regards
John Morrison, PhD

hey wallco then just simply respond back to him asking him if he is honest and upstanding tell him or ask him why doesnt he reflect the 2 losses on his site in v1.0 in the NBA this yr b/c he doesnt

its real simple guys it starts from there lieing about the rest is just a scam b/c hes too much of a p ussy to really show himself or represent himself as real true person read what I wrote above I explain it more there -)

[jphil]

keep the deep shit coming; we need that sometimes.

[Wallco99]

I will find those sites I was on get get you his user ID, 100% positive it was him. Thanks

[Wallco99]

@Wallco99 if both the Minnesota and Utah bets lose tonight, they will play each other in their next games... so lets hope that at least one of them wins tonight!

Potential disaster avoided, Minnesota covered, hopefully Utah can also. I will have to create some kind of filter for that in the future. Would be way too complicated to backtest to find out who played who at same time wagers. Thanks for the heads up earlier.

[thelimit0310]

Yes! Exactly what I was trying to say in the first place! Keep the picks we discussed in the forum, keep questions and comments about the individual systems in their respective threads.

What JMD is doing (daily post of all picks for the systems we all play) is fantastic. Instead of needing 3 or 4 threads open, I only need this one. Very helpful.

[thelimit0310]

He already knows this. He uses a labby though so he can still show a profit with A bets. Its only the chase system that doesn't show a profit long term with A bets. With a labby I believe he said or someone said you only need to win 48% of the time to show a profit. In the end Labby and Chase system will both show about the same amount of profit end of the system.

Hmm, are you sure the profit will be close to the same? I wonder which method is more effective....though I bet it would be pretty hard to backtest a labby. We've missed 3 wins in a row, so its something to think about.

[J.M. Disciple]

Hmm, are you sure the profit will be close to the same? I wonder which method is more effective....though I bet it would be pretty hard to backtest a labby. We've missed 3 wins in a row, so its something to think about.

yes profit will be close to the same. It was discusses way earlier in the thread. I do not know the post #, but wilba and JW and several others discussed it. If you go through all of Wilba's post im sure you will find it.

I'll save you the hastle and just tell you that you should take my word for it. The one difference between the systems labby and chase is that labby the losses are smaller, but you may take a longer time to win as well. In the end it will all come out to be about the same.

[J.M. Disciple]

I finally started to bet 2 units on SBP, today being my first day doing this and it was an awful fail! Both B and C bets lost!!!! Terrible way to start out. Out of all the systems I have followed this year. Some I have done away with and also some of my own bets as well. I am only up 14.5 units this season! I guess its better then losing, but lets hope this season turns around a little faster. I thought for sure I would of made back any money i lost from last year by this time of the season.

I had all my math worked out to be even or in the green by this point in the season. Now my bankroll is only up 14.5 units and my bankroll just looks like crap. All the time and effort I have put into following certain systems and trying to back test stuff does not seem worth it at all.

Lets hope by end of the season I am up a lot of money to make up for all the time spent on these forums. Just a little vent I had to get out of my system.

SBP phx -6.5 lost!
SBP updated TOronto +5 Lost!

I do believe soloman got a win with GSW though for his 2nd half. I didn't get to bet it cause I wasn't home though

Sucky NBA season even though im still up a little bit.

Lets turn this baby around and make some serious bank!

[J.M. Disciple]

John Morrison 1/27/11

v3 Houston [A] vs Dallas
v1 Boston [A] vs Portland

[Wallco99]

Chase 110

(1/26/11) Utah +3 (C) - Loss
(1/26/11) Minnesota +5 (B) - Win

(A) 25-23
(B) 15-8
(C) 6-2
(D) 2-0

Next games:
(1/28/11) Utah (D)
(1/28/11) Phoenix (A)

[juice050]

anyone thinks boston will hit on a A bet win tonight? i know alot of you skip A bets but this actually looks good at -2 after buying points since portland is banged up.

[knugen]

Chase 110

(1/26/11) Utah +3 (C) - Loss
(1/26/11) Minnesota +5 (B) - Win

(A) 25-23
(B) 15-8
(C) 6-2
(D) 2-0

Next games:
(1/28/11) Utah (D)
(1/28/11) Phoenix (A)

What system is this? Furst i thought it was the same but not buying points, but now u have phx today and tat is not à JM play!?

[thelimit0310]

What system is this? Furst i thought it was the same but not buying points, but now u have phx today and tat is not à JM play!?

That is a system Wallco99 came up with himself. It goes off of the assumption that a team that loses 3 times in a row will cover the spread in 1 of their next 4 games. You chase to the D bet and don't buy points.

[thelimit0310]

I finally started to bet 2 units on SBP, today being my first day doing this and it was an awful fail! Both B and C bets lost!!!! Terrible way to start out. Out of all the systems I have followed this year. Some I have done away with and also some of my own bets as well. I am only up 14.5 units this season! I guess its better then losing, but lets hope this season turns around a little faster. I thought for sure I would of made back any money i lost from last year by this time of the season.

I had all my math worked out to be even or in the green by this point in the season. Now my bankroll is only up 14.5 units and my bankroll just looks like crap. All the time and effort I have put into following certain systems and trying to back test stuff does not seem worth it at all.

Lets hope by end of the season I am up a lot of money to make up for all the time spent on these forums. Just a little vent I had to get out of my system.

SBP phx -6.5 lost!
SBP updated TOronto +5 Lost!

I do believe soloman got a win with GSW though for his 2nd half. I didn't get to bet it cause I wasn't home though

Sucky NBA season even though im still up a little bit.

Lets turn this baby around and make some serious bank!

I'm with you bro, I didn't take PHX but I did take Toronto as well as Solamans GSW. For the record, I'm sure most of the people who took GSW 2nd half pushed their bet. Mine pushed at -3. So you can play the 2nd play of the series when NO gets to SAC on Saturday.

[rkelly110]

OK, my bad. I just don't like punching a gift horse in the mouth.
I know a few times I wanted to rip him a new one also. I calmed down and did an
alternative to his money management, using labby's. Or betting from the B bet
like so many of you.

GL

[krzychu78]

JM's NBA system:
01/26/2011 New Orleans @ Golden State - V3, A bet - WIN

V1record so far (finished series): 32-3
(A): 14-21
(B): 15-6
(C): 3-3
Lost series:
PHO 11/17-20
DET 12/07-10
UTA 01/17-21

V2 record so far (finished series): 16-1
(A): 12-5
(B): 2-3
(C): 2-1
Lost series:
MIN 10/30-11/03

V3 record so far (finished series): 34-1
(A): 17-18
(B): 15-3
(C): 2-1
Lost series:
CLE 12/04-07

Next JM's plays:
01/27/2011 Boston @ Portland - V1, A bet
01/27/2011 Houston @ Dallas - V3, A bet
01/28/2011 Washington @ Oklahoma City - V1, A bet
01/29/2011 Toronto @ Minnesota - V3, A bet
01/31/2011 Milwaukee @ L.A. Clippers - V1, A bet

[thelimit0310]

If anyone could also post SBP Orig/Upd that would be appreciated.

What J.M. Disciple has been doing, posting Solaman/JM/SBP plays each day has been extremely helpful. Also krzychu78 has been doing a great job posting upcoming plays for all systems and version records, it has made keeping track of everything very convenient. I just hope this continues thru the season.

Thanks