John Morrison 2010 NBA

[hagball52]

I always let V1 trump V2.

I agree with you but I did notice last week the Portland Trailblazers had that same issue. They started out with a V2 bet and their second game would have been a V1 [A] bet. I don't subscribe to morrison's V2 but I do get his V1 and we did not receive a play on Portland. Now I think he probably plays it to his advantage meaning if there's a loss then he would probably switch systems. I don't know Port did cover on both systems. Just making an observation.

[JawboneBuddha]

I haven't made a thread for the plays. There are a few NBA and NHL plays this week under my guidelines. It's obvious that we will play the Minnesota Timberwolves starting on November 7 and the New York Islanders starting on November 10 because they didn't cover the first series of their games. The first series, which they didn't cover, was within a month from the second series. Both teams will cover the second series. As for this week, there will be NBA series plays on the Los Angeles Clippers starting on November 5, the Utah Jazz starting on November 9, and the Houston Rockets starting on November 10. As for the NHL series plays this week, there will plays on the Buffalo Sabres starting on November 6, the Philadelphia Flyers starting on November 6, the Dallas Stars starting on November 6, and the Vancouver Canucks starting on November 9. Those teams that I just listed don't have another road trip series within a month after that. I know that there are more plays this week but I didn't list them because their road trip series are within a month from their next road trip series.

I rarely post much, but I have to say that Stanley77 has some validity to his argument and a possible testing point of Stanley77's information will come with the listed Golden State Series upcoming. On the spreadsheet it is listed as a play, however using Stanley77's logic the GSW series should be a no play as they have another 3 game road trip in the month of November occurring Nov 24,26,27.

Does my logic above fit with what you are trying to convey, Stanley77?

Additionally, and using Stanley77's post #289 information, I also note that there is a GSW series beginning Dec 5, 7, 8. This would not register in the JM system, but using Stanley77's information would be actually be the ONLY GSW "play" and would trump the JM series scheduled later, according to the spread sheet, on Dec 29, 31, Jan1 -- which falls correctly into the JM system but against Stanley77's advice about the monthly situation.

I hope the above makes sense.

Also, I apologize for my post if it feels off topic, but the discussion piqued my interest enough to actually post (RARE!).

Lastly, I want to thank Mitchp for the time and effort he took to put together this impressive spreadsheet and for Stanley77 for bringing up a potential correction that could save us all $$$.

[peterpan19]

if the V2 play is a win than there is no V1 play
if V2 A bet is a loss, start with an A bet on V1, orget about what you lost on A bet V2 or be prepared to got to a D bet

[isg2010]

Where is Michp's spreadsheet????

[Stanley77]

Hey OK Stanley77...Sounds logical. I like it.

Now if you dont mind I just want to validate my understanding here. For example, your calling BUF a series play starting on Nov 6, a play that may not be considered valid since the 3 opponents are all Eastern Conference, same as BUF, but you say that really doesnt matter. Now BUF started a 4 game road series Oct 23-30 and won the "A" Bet, 6-1 over NJ. Now you would not have played that series since they start this one on Nov 6 which is within a month of the Oct 23-30 series. But your playing the Nov 6-11 series regardless that they won (or lost) that Oct 23-30 series and dont have another 3 game or more series RD trip until Jan 6, well over a month away. Sound right? If so I got it.

But, I would like to add that I think the conference thing does matter, or in NHL at least. Take Oct NHL this year so far...12-0 (series) V-1, A=8-4, B=2-2, C=2-0. The significance is that at least one opponent was OOC. Now, playing any opponent has suffered two series losses so far, 12-2 (series), V-2, A=9-5, B=2-3, C=1-2. Yes one could argue that the first series loss with ANA should not have been played since it started in one of thier first 3 games of the season, but this NYI Oct 30-Nov 4 loss was real, but it shoudnt have been played under your logic since they start this other series on Nov 10, within a month of the fisrt one and dont have another one until Dec 31-Jan 9, again well over a month away. OK then...sounds great. Thanks for the NBA/NHL angles.

Now you know we are gonna be called insane to play the T'Wolves...ya think? But I like to follow that old analogy in relation to sports betting..."He who hesitates, masturbates"....So, I'm down!

And what the hell, those who guess, uhhhh, I mean handicap ensure we alwyas have a place to play anyways.

Thanks!!!.../r

Regardless if the Buffalo Sabres won or lost the series between October 23 to October 30, we would still play them starting on November 6 since they don't have another road trip series after that. Whoever they're playing in their conference doesn't matter. Anyway, I would've passed on their first series (October 23 to October 30).

There are also other NBA plays for this week that I didn't post because their road trip series is within a month from their other road trip series. If they win, they win. You can't win them all, right? I use the criteria of one month in order to eliminate series losses.

[mitchp]

Where is Michp's spreadsheet????

I'll repost it, I can't even find it in the thread. The tracker is for original plays (Version 1) only. I have also include a separate tracker for just home games, for those who are following that system

[hagball52]

if the V2 play is a win than there is no V1 play
if V2 A bet is a loss, start with an A bet on V1, orget about what you lost on A bet V2 or be prepared to got to a D bet

Ten 4. Thanks

[Bugs Bunny]

Hi all

Isn't Toronto a V1 play on 11/6?

Cheers

[JW Cash]

This thread is hilarious........V 1......or V2.....maybe V 1 is really a V2 if V 1 loses before
a V 2.....!!!!! yada yada yada... What if its a V 2 while still maybe being a V 1.....lol

What it all comes down to is that Version 1 and Version 2 are creations of someone
with the name of John Morrison......


And we all know the crediblity of that individual.....

Version 2 was nothing more than a marketing ploy for Morrison's company
to generate sales that they would not have gotten otherwise....

Version 2 has no substance....

Morrison actually stole the original Version 1 from someone in another forum years ago...

But 99% of people in this thread buy into Morrison's marketing magic....

It seems you all dont have a clue what to do when there are possible games that
fit the parameters...seems that you all are totally confused.....just like last year..

Its sad.....but very funny too.......

When I get a minute or two.....I hop in here just for the entertainment.......

[Brundle99]

I'll repost it, I can't even find it in the thread. The tracker is for original plays (Version 1) only. I have also include a separate tracker for just home games, for those who are following that system

Good work on your spreadsheets Mitchp!

[greeny]

thanks for the spreadsheet! hope the picks work out! thanks again

[greeny]

Thanks for the spreadsheet! hope the picks work out!

[cmdyrds]

I agree with you but I did notice last week the Portland Trailblazers had that same issue. They started out with a V2 bet and their second game would have been a V1 [A] bet. I don't subscribe to morrison's V2 but I do get his V1 and we did not receive a play on Portland. Now I think he probably plays it to his advantage meaning if there's a loss then he would probably switch systems. I don't know Port did cover on both systems. Just making an observation.

i don't believe this would have been a version 1 play as the blazers would have to have lost all the prior road games by more than 3 points ats.

Hi all

Isn't Toronto a V1 play on 11/6?

Cheers

last game of their 3 game road series in which they covered game 1.

[Mashaka]

I haven't made a thread for the plays. There are a few NBA and NHL plays this week under my guidelines.

It's obvious that we will play the Minnesota Timberwolves starting on November 7 and the New York Islanders starting on November 10 because they didn't cover the first series of their games. The first series, which they didn't cover, was within a month from the second series. Both teams will cover the second series.

As for this week, there will be NBA series plays on the Los Angeles Clippers starting on November 5, the Utah Jazz starting on November 9, and the Houston Rockets starting on November 10.

As for the NHL series plays this week, there will plays on the Buffalo Sabres starting on November 6, the Philadelphia Flyers starting on November 6, the Dallas Stars starting on November 6, and the Vancouver Canucks starting on November 9.

Those teams that I just listed don't have another road trip series within a month after that. I know that there are more plays this week but I didn't list them because their road trip series are within a month from their next road trip series.

Are those 2 series V3 (because they aren't listed officially on this thread)

[ramper62]

Yeah JW...I know what you mean. When I go over to the Hilton's Book to watch the winners on the big screen its sad to watch all those guessy cappers tearing up their losing tickets. But Im sure your different with a name like JW Cash...I was wondering though why you didnt make Cash in your name all caps? It couldnt be that your only 1/4 good could it since the "C" is capped and the "ash" isnt. But Im glad your entertained anyway...you need something to keep your mind occupied. Laughter is the best medicine to cure misery loving company, huh!!!

.../r

[Wilba]

This thread is hilarious........V 1......or V2.....maybe V 1 is really a V2 if V 1 loses before
a V 2.....!!!!! yada yada yada... What if its a V 2 while still maybe being a V 1.....lol

What it all comes down to is that Version 1 and Version 2 are creations of someone
with the name of John Morrison......


And we all know the crediblity of that individual.....

Version 2 was nothing more than a marketing ploy for Morrison's company
to generate sales that they would not have gotten otherwise....

Version 2 has no substance....

Morrison actually stole the original Version 1 from someone in another forum years ago...

But 99% of people in this thread buy into Morrison's marketing magic....

It seems you all dont have a clue what to do when there are possible games that
fit the parameters...seems that you all are totally confused.....just like last year..

Its sad.....but very funny too.......

When I get a minute or two.....I hop in here just for the entertainment.......

HAHAHA this guy thinks he is a king capper HAHA I tracked his picks and they were the worst I have ever seen 'JW Cash' you have gotta be kidding me LMFAO what a tryhard.

Hey Mr 'high roller' Cash why don't you go to another forum and find someone who actually cares what you think and will listen to you instead of laughing at you

[Stanley77]

Are those 2 series V3 (because they aren't listed officially on this thread)

There's really no such thing as version plays. The strategy that I mention in posts #289 has been there since these sports leagues have started.

I agree with JW Cash. That scam artist is only selling these "version systems" so he can make extra money off of his customers. It's really all a marketing ploy for him. If you follow correctly what I posted in #289, I can assure you that you won't have a problem with betting on these games. This strategy is the one and only formula in both the NBA and NHL betting systems.

Just remember one thing: Do not be brainwashed about version plays.

[Wilba]

Yeah JW...I know what you mean. When I go over to the Hilton's Book to watch the winners on the big screen its sad to watch all those guessy cappers tearing up their losing tickets. But Im sure your different with a name like JW Cash...I was wondering though why you didnt make Cash in your name all caps? It couldnt be that your only 1/4 good could it since the "C" is capped and the "ash" isnt. But Im glad your entertained anyway...you need something to keep your mind occupied. Laughter is the best medicine to cure misery loving company, huh!!!

.../r

haha Cash gave Ramper 2 points for his post. I guess Mr Cash didn't realise that Ramper was ragging on him HA!

[Wilba]

There's really no such thing as version plays. The strategy that I mention in posts #289 has been there since these sports leagues have started.

I agree with JW Cash. That scam artist is only selling these "version systems" so he can make extra money off of his customers. It's really all a marketing ploy for him. If you follow correctly what I posted in #289, I can assure you that you won't have a problem with betting on these games. This strategy is the one and only formula in both the NBA and NHL betting systems.

Just remember one thing: Do not be brainwashed about version plays.

Well said Stanley. Maybe Mr Cash can take a tip about how to get a helpful point across without being arrogant and judgemental.

IMO Stanleys filter/version is great and I am going to use it. I backtested it yesterday and going back a fairly long way could not find a single loss. Good stuff Stanley

[DustyDiamond]

How many versions does Morrison have?

[jphil]

This yr. i think i'll just try following v1 only(w/ good capping, no pts., 2 gm. chase). It seems to have the better track record. Then i'll mix stanley's sys. in w/ it. Shake it up in a can & roll it baby. Hopefully QUALITY over quantity will produce a (+) by season's end.

or just play top tm. in each division during their homestands..

[JW Cash]

HAHAHA this guy thinks he is a king capper HAHA I tracked his picks and they were the worst I have ever seen 'JW Cash' you have gotta be kidding me LMFAO what a tryhard.

Hey Mr 'high roller' Cash why don't you go to another forum and find someone who actually cares what you think and will listen to you instead of laughing at you

Wilma..........your killing me.....


You say you tracked my picks.....hahahahaha....

I havent given any picks.......

Your mind must be in a daze......I dont usually respond to a fool
when he takes out his teeth and starts to flap his gums while trying
to say something articulate and with merit......so
I will simply say......Who Cares What You Think .......

I have already wasted too much time with you ...but it was fun to
see someone with 4 posts try to make a point and fall so flat on their face...


What a Clown....I am done with you.......





Ciao Ciao...

[Wilba]

Wilma..........your killing me.....

You say you tracked my picks.....hahahahaha....

I havent given any picks.......

Your mind must be in a daze......I dont usually respond to a fool
when he takes out his teeth and starts to flap his gums while trying
to say something articulate and with merit......so
I will simply say......Who Cares What You Think .......

I have already wasted too much time with you ...but it was fun to
see someone with 4 posts try to make a point and fall so flat on their face...

What a Clown....I am done with you.......

Ciao Ciao...

lol JW Cash so you're claiming that you are not aka JWhedgepeth and your claiming you do not sell your picks as 'perfect picks'? If so then someone is hacking your account to make posts Im afraid. Very glad you do not have more time to waste on us silly fools who choose to discuss things in the appropriate forum rather than bashing other people for their choices/discussions. Because unprovoked bashing round here is not required - I for one am grateful that you will not be posting here anymore so thankyou.

Anyway guys word of warning, perfect picks is a massive scam, the guy that runs it is as bad as JM with covering up losses and lying about them - the true record was appalling for the 4 months I tracked them for.

ps. please see this thread "PERFECT PICKS - Personal Picks...It's Redemption Time!!!" (namely posts 5 and 6) for what JW is about and you will see why him bashing JM followers is funny

[JW Cash]

...winna winna .....sausage and pepperoni pizza dinna.....

Nice win on lowly Cleveland tonite against Philly......

Of course the Cavs started a 3 game AWAY series tonight..........and they win the A Bet ..it
doesnt get any easier than this .......

[soldier1047]

Stanley, did you figure out how many games there will be for the seasons using your criteria? An appropriate amount? Sorry for the confusion earlier.

[JW Cash]

...winna winna .....sausage and pepperoni pizza dinna.....

Nice win on lowly Cleveland tonite against Philly......

Of course the Cavs started a 3 game AWAY series tonight..........and they win the A Bet ..it
doesnt get any easier than this .......

Memphis and Clipps also win tonite.....a solid 3-0 nite.... and no Version 1..version
2..version 99....no version 36,,, and NO wilma or Fred Flintstone.....

no buying 3 points...no chasing........

just makin money and having sex with the married cupcake next door....



...............sweet...............

[stevex]

JW good stuff man. The bottom line is this, you can come up with filters every day. Just do the labby, play all 3 versions, buy or dont buy the 3 points and you'll be fine.

stevex

[zigomanisinsider]

nuggets + 9 a lock gl

[stevex]

It's such a simple thing boys and girls. DON'T and I repeat DON'T CHASE. JM is a marketer, first and foremost. As JW said he could come up with a Version 4 or 5 or 6 next year. It doesn't matter. So what the T'Wolves had 3-games away and lost all 3 ATS, if you didn't chase and did a labby then you would be fine. Yeh afterwords you can come up with a bunch of stuff "beasley was injuried so we shouldn't have played that [C] bet or there a bad team so we shouldn't have played them, etc. etc. Stanley what you came up with (and I'm not saying it's a bad thing) is just another filter. All of these people worried about what version you have to play is just getting ridiciulous. So what, for the rest of the year I'm going to come into this thread and see "version 1 is better," or "stay away from version 3," "what version is better." Where gambling here people, there is going to be some series that lose throughout the year. Stop worrying about going "80 - 0" for the year and driving a photoshoped lambo.

I don't mean to rant and rave in your thread dvb02 it just sucks to see all of this confusion in this thread. When you go into other forums (and at sbr) the JM system is basically a joke and a half. And yes its because of JM himself and all the BS he pulls, but lets not make it any worse.

[cmdyrds]

jw

it seems you are always on fire. share the wealth bro.

[Mashaka]

Memphis and Clipps also win tonite.....a solid 3-0 nite.... and no Version 1..version
2..version 99....no version 36,,, and NO wilma or Fred Flintstone.....

no buying 3 points...no chasing........

One question, If a game doesn't cover without buying 3pts, but covers buying the 3pts, do you stop the series and carry on to the next one or you keep betting the series.... Thanks.

[JW Cash]

One question, If a game doesn't cover without buying 3pts, but covers buying the 3pts, do you stop the series and carry on to the next one or you keep betting the series.... Thanks.

No.....but I keep 2 separate spreadsheets to see how many times it happens..


Only time so far this year is Memphis ...which didnt cover in a Game B but
actually covers last nite in Phoenix...

What I mean is that WITHOUT buying the 3 points.....Memphis would NOT
have covered in Bet B......but with the 3 points they would have covered
the Bet B......but last nite they covered a Bet C WITHOUT buying the 3 points..


See how damn confusing it all is......lol

Who Needs it...


I take every series thats starts out with an Away Team having
3 Straight Away games....if they have 6 straight AWAY games I
do not play a second 3 game set...I dont need to be greedy...

I dont buy 3 points.....and I do a Labourchere which only
needs about 40% WIN ratio to be profitable.....

So far this year....I am 7-1 in System Wins.......( 7-6 in overall games )


and that includes the Minnesota system loss....

7-6 is 53.8%.....which is far above the pct needed for profit in Labby...

But I even expect that pct to increase as the season goes on


I play Game 1 and Game 3 on Line 1 of Labourchere

and I play Game 2 on Line 2.....


Like I say....you dont need all this Version 1..Version 2....3 Pts buy....BS

Costs a lot of money to buy 3 pts......

Hope this helps...

[JW Cash]

JW good stuff man. The bottom line is this, you can come up with filters every day. Just do the labby, play all 3 versions, buy or dont buy the 3 points and you'll be fine.

stevex

As usual.....you are Right On....stevex....

[ramper62]

Hey...It all sounds great. But I was wondering, what version is the "no chase" and what version is the "no buying 3 points?" Just so it doesnt get to confusing here in the John Morrison 2010 NBA thread.

[woodyman]

So is the general consenus to only play V1 or play V2 aswell? This thread is very confusing now.