Is Kobe the greatest Laker ever?

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  • Scorpion
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 09-04-05
    • 7797

    #1
    Is Kobe the greatest Laker ever?
    At 40 years old Kareem played in 79 games, his ave 33 minutes 23 points at 40, do u think Kobe would be playing in the NBA when he is 40?
    Kareem career shooting percentage is 56%
    6 NBA championships
    6 NBA MVP - Kobe just 1 time
    rookie of the yr - Kobe was not the rookie of the yr

    Kobe's career shooting percentage is 10 points lower 46%

    Kobe never shot over 50% in his 13 year career, Kareem played in the league for 20 years, every year he shot over 50%, except his last when he was 42 years old

    56% vs 46% career shooting percentage, unstoppable skyhook vs 46% jumpshot
    who would you rather have?
    who is the best Laker ever?
  • Holtgetsback
    SBR MVP
    • 01-04-10
    • 4655

    #2
    Magic
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    • paco
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 05-07-09
      • 62873

      #3
      Greatest Player Ever.
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      • rm18
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 09-20-05
        • 22291

        #4
        Shaq Diesel
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        • 2fast4u58
          SBR Rookie
          • 06-17-10
          • 8

          #5
          Originally posted by paco
          Greatest Player Ever.
          MJ 6 rings 6 MVPS

          Kobe 5 rings 2 MVPS


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          • Bostongambler
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 02-01-08
            • 35581

            #6
            Magic
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            • TexansFan
              SBR MVP
              • 09-06-06
              • 3367

              #7
              No, but that's hardly an insult considering the talent the Lakers have had in their history. As far as the ring comparison above, what does that have to do with anything? Bill Russell would be better than Jordan or Kobe if you're talking about rings, hell, so would Horry.
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              • paco
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 05-07-09
                • 62873

                #8
                MJ's competition was no where close to right now.
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                • TexansFan
                  SBR MVP
                  • 09-06-06
                  • 3367

                  #9
                  Originally posted by paco
                  MJ's competition was no where close to right now.
                  You must be under 25.
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                  • masr
                    SBR MVP
                    • 10-20-07
                    • 4773

                    #10
                    A true great Laker is someone whos been there the whole career...
                    MAGIC...Kobe is coming up right behind him, If he 3-peats this next year its his....
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                    • gedney3
                      SBR Rookie
                      • 06-18-10
                      • 5

                      #11
                      Originally posted by paco
                      MJ's competition was no where close to right now.
                      Are you new to watching basketball? Please please watch some old games.
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                      • blackbeSSt
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 09-06-08
                        • 9398

                        #12
                        nein
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                        • cashil
                          SBR Sharp
                          • 01-23-10
                          • 466

                          #13
                          smh at these young cats comparing kobe to jordan lol.

                          the correct answer is Magic, or maybe even prime Shaq or Wilt. Id take them over Kobe
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                          • bradleysnyder
                            Restricted User
                            • 04-18-07
                            • 6662

                            #14
                            with out a doubt kobe is the best laker ever.he is number 24 because number 24 is one better than number 23
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                            • jjgold
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 07-20-05
                              • 388179

                              #15
                              Kobe

                              magic played with fukkin Legends
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                              • big0mar
                                SBR MVP
                                • 01-09-09
                                • 3374

                                #16
                                Who gives a shit?
                                [B][B]They key isn't getting rich quick. The key is getting rich slowly, and enjoying it.

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                                • dherd
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 03-21-09
                                  • 631

                                  #17
                                  kareem is the best ever hands down. he is the only player i know of whom they changed the college rules for.
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                                  • blackbeSSt
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 09-06-08
                                    • 9398

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by bradleysnyder
                                    with out a doubt kobe is the best laker ever.he is number 24 because number 24 is one better than number 23
                                    so if we're playing that game.....

                                    magic was number 32 so he must be 8 better then kobe right?
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                                    • KiDBaZkiT
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 10-20-09
                                      • 14962

                                      #19
                                      6-24 from the field? 25% FG's in a game 7 at home with terrible shot selection and you guys think Kobe is the best Laker? Ron Artest should of gotten the finals MVP. Kobe has sucked off so many other players for rings its not even funny. Kobe has never hit a big shot in the playoffs, oh yea one and thats it. Artest and Fisher last night hit the two big 3's. Gasol had to finish off Kobes missed game winner against OKC and Artest had to finish off Kobes missed game winner against Phoenix. How about Horrys 3 against the Kings or Fishers .04 sec shot against the Spurs? Last year in Orlando Fisher hit a big 3 to send it to OT, hit a big 3 in OT and Gasol got 2 run out dunks in OT and where was Kobe? Lakers would of won easily last night if Kobe didnt come out chucking his ass off and taking terrible shots, but its all good the refs made up for it giving LA 15 FT's in the first 9.5 minutes of the fourth. Gasol got away with a travel on a put back, shoved rondo to the ground on a nnother put back niether is called. Kobe plows into a wall of defenders outside the restricted area and he get FT's. Kobe's little go through the arms to get 3 ft's is a rule that has got to be changed, Kobe RELIES on the refs thats why he throws a fit worse than any other player when hes not getting calls, shit other guys get T'd up or/and ejected, he gets to do whatever his little heart desires. NBA is pathetic **** LA and **** Kobe.
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                                      • BobHarvey
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 07-08-08
                                        • 3987

                                        #20
                                        I say Magic is still #1 for reasons more than just stats but Kobe is right behind him.
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                                        • SamsNCharge99
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 10-22-08
                                          • 41242

                                          #21
                                          nope
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                                          • playa420
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 03-09-08
                                            • 881

                                            #22
                                            Kobes rising up the list, but magic still has to be #1
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                                            • ttwarrior1
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 06-23-09
                                              • 28467

                                              #23
                                              had adam morrison had a better career then p ewing, c anthony, lebron???? Who cares and no he is not the greatest laker
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                                              • jlgarciaiii22
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 04-14-08
                                                • 1792

                                                #24
                                                Kurt Rambis
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                                                • boeing power
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 03-23-10
                                                  • 9698

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by jlgarciaiii22
                                                  Kurt Rambis
                                                  Rambis is closer to kobe than kobe is to Jordan
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                                                  • leeznon
                                                    SBR Hustler
                                                    • 06-11-10
                                                    • 77

                                                    #26
                                                    No shit Kareem had a better shooting percentage than Kobe, he was a center. Centers/power forwards are supposed to have a better percentage because all of their shots are 4 feet from the basket.
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                                                    • CashMoney
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 01-07-08
                                                      • 1982

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by paco
                                                      MJ's competition was no where close to right now.
                                                      You have to be phukin kidding me. In MJ's day they used to play something called defense in the NBA and the comp was much tougher. There was also none of this ticky tack foul crap. Defenders were actually allowed to put their hands on the offensive player which is now an automatic foul and there were actually dominant big men on more than 1 team.

                                                      Back in the day if a player tried to drive the lane he'd either get slammed or elbowed in the throat. Considering MJ did what he did in the era he did it in makes MJ that much more impressive.
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                                                      • RoagBettor
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 01-20-09
                                                        • 8355

                                                        #28
                                                        These comparisons are ridiculous. Kobe is great, there's no question about it, but he's also playing in a watered-down league. The skill level at the top is very high, but then it drops off dramatically. Jordan played against better players top to bottom.

                                                        Moreover, to base it on shooting percentage makes no sense. Kobe has to go against the toughest defender every game, and faces double and triple teams. To shoot 46% is actually an achievement considering the defense he faces and shots he takes.

                                                        Every generation had their greats; it's impossible to say one is greater than the other.
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                                                        • atwolfe
                                                          SBR High Roller
                                                          • 03-21-10
                                                          • 224

                                                          #29
                                                          Its a toss-up between Kobe and Magic. You can make arguments both ways. Personally I think Magic is better, but thats just my opinion. Kareem was great too, and so was Wilt. But I would say that they were more "freaks of nature" than raw talent, especially Wilt.

                                                          As far as Kobe vs Jordan, its Jordan hands down. Kobe has got that "Jordan edge", but not like Michael. He had some bad playoff games, but not game 7 of the finals like Kobe had last night. And Jordan's competition was better back then than Kobe's is now. You think the Celtics D is physical? Try playing against the Detroit Piston "Bad Boys". They would put you on the floor every time you drive the lane and not think twice about it.

                                                          I mean they even came up with the "Jordan Rules" which they used when playing against the Bulls. Does anybody have the "Bryant Rules"? Don't think so.
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                                                          • dinaro7
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 12-06-09
                                                            • 888

                                                            #30
                                                            i agree
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                                                            • brandon m
                                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                                              • 07-06-09
                                                              • 604

                                                              #31
                                                              Kobe, 5 titles in 11 years, 7 finals appearances in 11 years. If that's not a dynasty I don't know what is.
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                                                              • brandon m
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 07-06-09
                                                                • 604

                                                                #32
                                                                Yeah Boston had Bryant rules last night, triple team and trap him if he even looks at the basket.
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                                                                • nikeboyz
                                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                                  • 04-17-10
                                                                  • 191

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Kobe said Jerry West is the best laker so end of discussion.
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                                                                  • lakerboy
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 04-02-09
                                                                    • 94379

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Magic was the best laker ever and will be forever. Kobe couldnt do half of what Magic used to do with the ball. Magic was one of the most amazing athletes to ever play and he along with Bird saved and made the NBA what it became. Magic won the NBA title in his rookie year playing centre in the last game. I doubt Kobe could do that. Magic #1 forever.
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                                                                    • Team Ramrod
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 04-10-09
                                                                      • 949

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Magic not even close either. Magic was like a giant playing the point guard position. IMO he is the greatest PG ever just because of how many skills that guy had playing in that position but mainly his size . He was basically a power forward playing point guard and making it looking pimp as hell.
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