Back in the degen saddle; now a ? about hedging on a parlay

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  • No coincidences
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 01-18-10
    • 76300

    #1
    Back in the degen saddle; now a ? about hedging on a parlay
    OK, so I confess: there were a lot of plays I liked on the card tonight, so I went against good judgment deposited a little into my account to get back in the game after being basically wiped out the other night.

    Here were my plays:

    1) Straight Wager 04/22/10 23:24 ET
    Result: Wager Won 2Suns(Phoenix) 2ndHalf 42
    2Blazers(Portland) 2ndHalf 52 04/22/10(23:59 ET)
    Under 98

    2) Parlay (2 Teams) 04/22/10 23:23 ET
    Result: Wager Won 2Suns(Phoenix) 2ndHalf 42
    2Blazers(Portland) 2ndHalf 52 04/22/10(23:59 ET)
    2Blazers(Portland) -7 2Suns(Phoenix) 2ndHalf 42
    2Blazers(Portland) 2ndHalf 52 04/22/10(23:59 ET)
    Under 98

    3) Parlay (2 Teams) 04/22/10 23:10 ET
    Result: Wager Won 2Lakers(LA) 2ndHalf 46
    2Thunder(OklahomaCity) 2ndHalf 58 04/22/10(23:40 ET)
    2Thunder(OklahomaCity) -4 (-105) 2Lakers(LA) 2ndHalf 46
    2Thunder(OklahomaCity) 2ndHalf 58 04/22/10(23:40 ET)
    Over 97

    4) Straight Wager 04/22/10 13:37 ET
    Result: Wager Won Lakers(LA) 96
    Thunder(OklahomaCity) 101 04/22/10(21:50 ET)
    Thunder(OklahomaCity) -2.5 (-130)
    Bought 1.0 point(s)

    5) Straight Wager 04/22/10 13:37 ET
    Result: Wager Won Lakers(LA) 96
    Thunder(OklahomaCity) 101 04/22/10(21:50 ET)
    Thunder(OklahomaCity) -165

    6) Straight Wager 04/22/10 13:37 ET
    Result: Wager Won Lakers(LA) 96
    Thunder(OklahomaCity) 101 04/22/10(21:50 ET)
    Over 191.5
    I also took OKC first half, which lost.

    Now of course, I'm , even though I had to play much smaller because I totally went in the tank with 2nd half over LAL/OKC on Tuesday. Baby steps, though.

    So here's my question:

    I also strung a little 6-team parlay together with 35:1 odds. Had two baseball games (hit), OKC ML and OKC/LAL over. So I'm 4-for-4 at this point. The last two plays are Utah ML and Utah/Denver over on Friday night. How do I hedge? I'm really liking the Jazz and the over here, but if I can figure out a way to assure myself of at least a little cash, I will. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

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  • sweetjones55
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 04-07-09
    • 5257

    #2
    It's really hard to hedge when you have two games left in the parlay and they are both on the same team. I think you have no choice but to let it ride.

    I have to admit thought I really do not think the OVER is the right call. Usually in a playoff series, when the first two games go over, the third game goes under.
    Scared money don't make money

    182-120-6 (60.26%) Final Total NBA Record over 308 plays
    37-20-1 (65%) Record for the 2010 NBA PLAYOFFS
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    • sweetjones55
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 04-07-09
      • 5257

      #3
      Acutally there is a way to hedge this game. Say Utah is up 20 tomorrow at half and the total is right on pace. You can take the 2H under for half the parlay and gurantee yourself winnings if you don't think that Utah will blow a big lead. 2H bets is for sure the only way you can hedge though.
      Scared money don't make money

      182-120-6 (60.26%) Final Total NBA Record over 308 plays
      37-20-1 (65%) Record for the 2010 NBA PLAYOFFS
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      • No coincidences
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 01-18-10
        • 76300

        #4
        Originally posted by sweetjones55
        2H bets is for sure the only way you can hedge though.
        That's kind of what I'm thinking. I just hope the game gives me a chance to do so -- I have a feeling an ugly middle might be on the way, though.
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        • AmpleGamble
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 03-04-10
          • 568

          #5
          Ya, about all you can do right now is hope the Jazz come out hot or the O/U is really favoring one side or the other. And as mentioned before, hopefully find a way to hedge it at half to at least guarantee yourself a little profit. I'll be cheerin for ya, good luck!
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          • No coincidences
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 01-18-10
            • 76300

            #6
            Originally posted by AmpleGamble
            Ya, about all you can do right now is hope the Jazz come out hot or the O/U is really favoring one side or the other. And as mentioned before, hopefully find a way to hedge it at half to at least guarantee yourself a little profit. I'll be cheerin for ya, good luck!
            Thanks. I suppose what I need is for one of the results to be obvious (either Utah ML or the over) so that I can hedge on the other. If it's 55-53 at half, I'm probably screwed and will just have to let it ride.
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            • sweetjones55
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 04-07-09
              • 5257

              #7
              Let's not forget No coincidences that Utah could win the 1H 68-53 and you could be looking sweet on both. It seems like you may be reverse-jynxing your parlay by creating this thread and talking about hedging.
              Scared money don't make money

              182-120-6 (60.26%) Final Total NBA Record over 308 plays
              37-20-1 (65%) Record for the 2010 NBA PLAYOFFS
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              • OmgUrMom
                Restricted User
                • 02-07-10
                • 8481

                #8
                three two team parlays would do it.

                Denver ML- Under on game
                Denver ML- Over on game
                Utah ML- Under on game

                That would do it and you could easily guarantee yourself a profit, i still don't suggest it since its negative ev.
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                • No coincidences
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 01-18-10
                  • 76300

                  #9
                  Originally posted by sweetjones55
                  Let's not forget No coincidences that Utah could win the 1H 68-53 and you could be looking sweet on both. It seems like you may be reverse-jynxing your parlay by creating this thread and talking about hedging.
                  If Utah's up 68-53 at half, I'll be . Then if Denver comes back or the over doesn't hit, that's life.

                  I suppose I could make a 2nd half bet and then a 4th Q bet if necessary. I do agree, though, that waiting until halftime is probably the only way to go.
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                  • No coincidences
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 01-18-10
                    • 76300

                    #10
                    OK, here's what I think I'm going to do (again, any feedback would be greatly appreciated):

                    It's a $10 parlay to win almost $350 hinging on Utah ML and over 216 tonight.

                    Before the game, I'm going to play a Denver +3/under parlay at $50 to win $130. That will cover a decent amount of the parlay amount in case it doesn't hit, and if it does, I'm still gaining $300 off of $10.

                    Then, I make another play at half based on what's happening in the game only if I have to (the only bases not covered at this point would be Utah/under and Denver/over).

                    I know some would just let it ride, and I know there are probably ways I could really screw myself here, but I feel like I have to do something to ensure a profit.
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                    • No coincidences
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 01-18-10
                      • 76300

                      #11
                      I hedged Utah and over with Denver and under (two-team parlay to cover about 35% of the original parlay).

                      Anyone want to guess what's going to happen? I'm saying Denver and over.

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                      • No coincidences
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 01-18-10
                        • 76300

                        #12
                        Worst nightmare so far. Denver's up big and the over's looking great.

                        Unbelievable.
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                        • No coincidences
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 01-18-10
                          • 76300

                          #13
                          Over's not going to hit and I have no idea who's going to win the game -- what do I do now?
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                          • No coincidences
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 01-18-10
                            • 76300

                            #14
                            Go with Utah and under for a second hedge? I could get caught on an ugly middle with the total there.

                            I think I'll just pray that one or the other hits. This sucks.
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                            • No coincidences
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 01-18-10
                              • 76300

                              #15
                              Utah and under. Wow.

                              I go from having a chance to win a 35:1 parlay, to actually losing money by trying to hedge.

                              Idiot.
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                              • hhsilver
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 06-07-07
                                • 7375

                                #16
                                When you think about hedging to "guarantee profit", you should also think about all the money lost on parlays that lost before you had a chance to hedge.

                                In short, don't hedge if you have played or will play other parlays. You need the possible big payoff to help make up for all the ones that lose before there is even a possibility of hedging.
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                                • No coincidences
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 01-18-10
                                  • 76300

                                  #17
                                  Goddam you, Denver.
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                                  • No coincidences
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 01-18-10
                                    • 76300

                                    #18
                                    Only I could turn this opportunity into a loser.

                                    From 35:1 ($10 to win $350) to down $50.
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