NBA Chase 2018-19

imotiv8 · 09-22-18, 05:40 AM

Thanks for stepping up and doing this! Will you be posting plays as they come?

KingofKOP · 09-25-18, 07:49 PM

I will do my best. Got a day job where I can't access this site. We have some time. Thanks!

KingofKOP · 09-25-18, 08:07 PM

System Filters (these make the bets unofficial):
1. Do not bet on the team that has the best road record.
2. Do not bet on a team whose road record winning percentage is in the bottom 10% of the league.
3. If your team has its best player hurt, pass on the series. Best player = the player with the highest efficiency on the team. There's a bunch of nuances with if the best player is out for more than 5 consecutive games.
4. Wait for the team to play 3 games before betting on them.
5. System ends before season ends. Depends on where team is in regards to playoffs.

Rules:
1. Buy 3 points on all games. For -170.
2. If team is a favorite of -3 or greater, bet the ML instead.
3. Only bet on the first 3 games of the out of conference schedule. So if the road trip is 5 games, all out of conference, only bet the first 3. Games 4 and 5 are out.
4. If the road trip starts in conference before the 3 out of conference games, the out of conference series is only eligible if the team has lost all the in conference road games before the out of conference starts.

sitamees · 10-05-18, 08:36 AM

Originally posted by KingofKOP

System Filters (these make the bets unofficial):
1. Do not bet on the team that has the best road record.
2. Do not bet on a team whose road record winning percentage is in the bottom 10% of the league.
3. If your team has its best player hurt, pass on the series. Best player = the player with the highest efficiency on the team. There's a bunch of nuances with if the best player is out for more than 5 consecutive games.
4. Wait for the team to play 3 games before betting on them.
5. System ends before season ends. Depends on where team is in regards to playoffs.

Rules:
1. Buy 3 points on all games. For -170.
2. If team is a favorite of -3 or greater, bet the ML instead.
3. Only bet on the first 3 games of the out of conference schedule. So if the road trip is 5 games, all out of conference, only bet the first 3. Games 4 and 5 are out.
4. If the road trip starts in conference before the 3 out of conference games, the out of conference series is only eligible if the team has lost all the in conference road games before the out of conference starts.

i didnt know the last rule. Are you sure its from original jim morrison chase system
and does it apply in NHL too

KingofKOP · 10-09-18, 06:12 PM

It's right from the rules. I'm not aware of a NHL chase system. If there's one on here with historical records, please drop the link. Thanks!

TwoCats · 10-10-18, 04:40 PM

Originally posted by KingofKOP

It's right from the rules. I'm not aware of a NHL chase system. If there's one on here with historical records, please drop the link. Thanks!

These are the rules (with all of the Morrison B/S still included) from Nov 2011 (with a few of my comments in red):

Here’s the NHL betting system in detail. As long as you strictly follow my betting
guidelines below, you will be winning almost all of your NHL bets. (Only believe that if you want to!)

In a nutshell, you will be betting that one team is going to win at least one game in a
consecutive 3-game away series versus the opposing teams where at least 1 of their
opponents is from the opposite conference. Always bet on the +1.5 Run Line if your
team is the underdog, and always bet on the Money Line if your team is the favorite.
This is a bet that you will win more than 98% of the time.

Before I go into detail on how to make the bets, I will go over the money management
system. There are only three bet values you should stick to: Bet A; Bet B; and Bet C.

Bet A = Your beginning bet. I recommend you set your beginning bet at $100 (I suggest you set your own figure lower than this - NHL can have expensive juice) when you first start out.

Bet B = In case Bet A fails, you make bet B to make up for any loss you’ve suffered
from Bet A, plus any profit you would have achieved from bet A. So, if your Bet A was
$100, your Bet B can be $250.

Bet C = In case Bet B fails, you make bet C to make up for any loss you’ve suffered
from Bet A plus Bet B, plus profit you would have achieved from bet A.

So, if your Bet A plus Bet B was $350 (note my comment above), your Bet C can be $650.

There is no Bet D, or E, or anything thereafter. If you lose Bet C, you lose the bet.

However, do not be concerned, because losing a Bet C is something that will almost
never happen. (Like I said, believe that if you want to!)

Here’s the betting system:
1. Check the NHL schedule and mark down any series where one team will be
playing at least 3 consecutive games on the road.
2. For the team that will be playing 3 or more consecutive games on the road,
check to make sure that at least 1 of their 3 opponents is from the opposite
conference.
3. If at least 1 out of the 3 teams they're playing against is from the opposite
conference, then make a bet A for the team on the road on its first day.
4. If you lose bet A, make a bet B on their next game for the same team.
5. If you lose bet B, make a bet C on their next game for the same team.

Now keep this in mind: ALWAYS bet on the money line if the team you’re betting on is
the favorite to win. ALWAYS bet on the +1.5 puck line if the team you’re betting on is
the underdog. You can check to see which team is the favorite or the underdog by
looking at the puck line in the bet lineup.

A team showing a +1.5 in the puck line means they are the underdog.
A team showing a -1.5 in the run line means they are the favorite.
Basically, you always take the +1.5 puck line if it is offered for your team.
If the puck line shows as -1.5, then take the money line instead.

Remember: Whenever you are betting on the +1.5 puck line, you’ll win the bet even if
your team loses by 1! (Actually a TRUE statement!)

Important: When a team is going into a 6-game series, DO NOT break it down into two
different 3-game series. You should only play the first 3 games of the road trip,
regardless of how many consecutive road games your team is going on (assuming of
course that at least 1 out of the 3 teams they're playing against is from the opposing
conference)

Another exception is that you should never bet on a team that is starting their series in
one of their first 3 games of the season. The reason for this is that at the start of the
season, the oddsmakers are still not entirely familiar with the strengths of the teams,
and as a result would heighten the level of risks involved with betting. Wait until your
team has played at least 3 games in the NHL season before making any wagers that fall under the system.

One final exception (apart from any other excuses that he dreamt up, which I do not have handy at the moment) is that you should never bet on a team who has the worst road record in league. A team with the worst road record in the league carry a much greater risk, and it's better to be safe than sorry.

Now, I want to give you an example from the 2008-09 NHL season to make sure you’re able to follow the betting method.
On 10/27/08, the Boston Bruins (Eastern Conference) had a road game versus the Edmonton Oilers (Western Conference). Their next game was also a road game versus Vancouver (Western Conference) on 10/28. On 10/30 they had another road game versus Calgary (Western Conference). This means that Boston had three consecutive games on the road where at least 1 out of the 3 teams they're playing against is from an opposing conference. Note that in this case, all 3 of Boston's opponents are from the opposite conference. However, keep in mind that as long as at least just 1 of the teams can be from the opposite conference in order to make the series eligible for play.

Since this Boston series qualify as a play, on 10/27/08 you would bet on the Boston
Bruins in the +1.5 puck line in their game versus the Edmonton Oilers, starting with the amount you’ve set to bet on in your Bet A. As it turned out, Boston won the game 1-0. You would stop here and move on to the next eligible series.

If, however, Boston had lost on that A bet, then you would have needed to follow up on the bet on 10/28 when Boston played Vancouver, and again on the puck line since the +1.5 puck line was offered. Had your B bet lost again, then you would need to place a C bet on Boston again on 10/30 (again on the +1.5 puck line since that was offered).

I can assure you that you will almost never lose a betting series by following my system. (More lies!)

The 2009 NHL system is here.

Wallco99 had a NHL system when worked well, although I think that it may have faded in recent years. The 2011 system is here.

sitamees · 10-12-18, 03:48 AM

Thanks cat. I didnt know that only 1 road team in series would be enough. Maybe thats why it doesnt work
I played only when all teams are away last season without 1,5 and got 20 units profit

But if all 4 are away you start at 2 game if they loose first?
like with vegas at moment c bet should be next one

takethepnts · 10-12-18, 09:28 AM

Thanks for tracking this. There is also a Home team Halftime NBA system fading the LONG road trip team . But past records were based on a 6 game chase. Always 1.91 odds of course.
Tracking these systems and picking your spots as opposed to having to follow them religiously to the bet can be extremely useful also.
Sports investing is a lot about picking your spots tho anyways.
The best weapon we have at our disposal is like the stock market we PICK OUR SPOTS or Team / event to invest on. There is no need to force or push a wager. This is where tracking these and other historically winning percentage spots can be very beneficial IMO.
Thanks again ... Look forward to trailing the thread.

kaanyeezy · 10-13-18, 11:21 AM

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kaanyeezy · 10-13-18, 11:22 AM

Originally posted by TwoCats

These are the rules (with all of the Morrison B/S still included) from Nov 2011 (with a few of my comments in red):

Here’s the NHL betting system in detail. As long as you strictly follow my betting
guidelines below, you will be winning almost all of your NHL bets. (Only believe that if you want to!)

In a nutshell, you will be betting that one team is going to win at least one game in a
consecutive 3-game away series versus the opposing teams where at least 1 of their
opponents is from the opposite conference. Always bet on the +1.5 Run Line if your
team is the underdog, and always bet on the Money Line if your team is the favorite.
This is a bet that you will win more than 98% of the time.

Before I go into detail on how to make the bets, I will go over the money management
system. There are only three bet values you should stick to: Bet A; Bet B; and Bet C.

Bet A = Your beginning bet. I recommend you set your beginning bet at $100 (I suggest you set your own figure lower than this - NHL can have expensive juice) when you first start out.

Bet B = In case Bet A fails, you make bet B to make up for any loss you’ve suffered
from Bet A, plus any profit you would have achieved from bet A. So, if your Bet A was
$100, your Bet B can be $250.

Bet C = In case Bet B fails, you make bet C to make up for any loss you’ve suffered
from Bet A plus Bet B, plus profit you would have achieved from bet A.

So, if your Bet A plus Bet B was $350 (note my comment above), your Bet C can be $650.

There is no Bet D, or E, or anything thereafter. If you lose Bet C, you lose the bet.

However, do not be concerned, because losing a Bet C is something that will almost
never happen. (Like I said, believe that if you want to!)

Here’s the betting system:
1. Check the NHL schedule and mark down any series where one team will be
playing at least 3 consecutive games on the road.
2. For the team that will be playing 3 or more consecutive games on the road,
check to make sure that at least 1 of their 3 opponents is from the opposite
conference.
3. If at least 1 out of the 3 teams they're playing against is from the opposite
conference, then make a bet A for the team on the road on its first day.
4. If you lose bet A, make a bet B on their next game for the same team.
5. If you lose bet B, make a bet C on their next game for the same team.

Now keep this in mind: ALWAYS bet on the money line if the team you’re betting on is
the favorite to win. ALWAYS bet on the +1.5 puck line if the team you’re betting on is
the underdog. You can check to see which team is the favorite or the underdog by
looking at the puck line in the bet lineup.

A team showing a +1.5 in the puck line means they are the underdog.
A team showing a -1.5 in the run line means they are the favorite.
Basically, you always take the +1.5 puck line if it is offered for your team.
If the puck line shows as -1.5, then take the money line instead.

Remember: Whenever you are betting on the +1.5 puck line, you’ll win the bet even if
your team loses by 1! (Actually a TRUE statement!)

Important: When a team is going into a 6-game series, DO NOT break it down into two
different 3-game series. You should only play the first 3 games of the road trip,
regardless of how many consecutive road games your team is going on (assuming of
course that at least 1 out of the 3 teams they're playing against is from the opposing
conference)

Another exception is that you should never bet on a team that is starting their series in
one of their first 3 games of the season. The reason for this is that at the start of the
season, the oddsmakers are still not entirely familiar with the strengths of the teams,
and as a result would heighten the level of risks involved with betting. Wait until your
team has played at least 3 games in the NHL season before making any wagers that fall under the system.

One final exception (apart from any other excuses that he dreamt up, which I do not have handy at the moment) is that you should never bet on a team who has the worst road record in league. A team with the worst road record in the league carry a much greater risk, and it's better to be safe than sorry.

Now, I want to give you an example from the 2008-09 NHL season to make sure you’re able to follow the betting method.
On 10/27/08, the Boston Bruins (Eastern Conference) had a road game versus the Edmonton Oilers (Western Conference). Their next game was also a road game versus Vancouver (Western Conference) on 10/28. On 10/30 they had another road game versus Calgary (Western Conference). This means that Boston had three consecutive games on the road where at least 1 out of the 3 teams they're playing against is from an opposing conference. Note that in this case, all 3 of Boston's opponents are from the opposite conference. However, keep in mind that as long as at least just 1 of the teams can be from the opposite conference in order to make the series eligible for play.

Since this Boston series qualify as a play, on 10/27/08 you would bet on the Boston
Bruins in the +1.5 puck line in their game versus the Edmonton Oilers, starting with the amount you’ve set to bet on in your Bet A. As it turned out, Boston won the game 1-0. You would stop here and move on to the next eligible series.

If, however, Boston had lost on that A bet, then you would have needed to follow up on the bet on 10/28 when Boston played Vancouver, and again on the puck line since the +1.5 puck line was offered. Had your B bet lost again, then you would need to place a C bet on Boston again on 10/30 (again on the +1.5 puck line since that was offered).

I can assure you that you will almost never lose a betting series by following my system. (More lies!)

The 2009 NHL system is here.

Wallco99 had a NHL system when worked well, although I think that it may have faded in recent years. The 2011 system is here.

Are the plays for this system being tracked anywhere?

KingofKOP · 10-17-18, 06:13 PM

Sorry for not putting that schedule in the first post in date order. I'll get that fixed when I can get my PC back from my kid. ha. Anyway, first plays are 10/22 Washington, 10/25 Portland, and 10/26 Golden State. Will post again on game days with the official/unofficial statuses.

takethepnts · 10-18-18, 10:27 AM

Sounds great Thanks ..have a super weekend.

KingofKOP · 10-22-18, 11:47 AM

10/22: Washington. Unofficial tonight since team has no played 3 games yet. Buy 3 points. Currently +5 so buy line is -170 for +8.

tdnufb · 10-22-18, 01:45 PM

Here you go everyone. I put the schedule into a spreadsheet in date order for us. Hope this helps you out and thanks KingofKOP for setting up up the schedule and posting the plays!!!

2018-19	NBA

10/22/2018	Washington
10/25/2018	Portland
10/26/2018	Golden State
10/29/2018	Sacramento
11/2/2018	Toronto
11/2/2018	Houston
11/6/2018	Brooklyn
11/6/2018	Milwaukee
11/8/2018	Boston
11/11/2018	Atlanta
11/16/2018	Utah
11/17/2018	Clippers
11/17/2018	Lakers
11/18/2018	Portland
11/19/2018	Phoenix
11/21/2018	New Orleans
11/23/2018	Orlando
11/23/2018	Houston
11/23/2018	San Antonio
11/26/2018	Indiana
11/28/2018	Utah
11/29/2018	Golden State
12/3/2018	Denver
12/3/2018	OKC
12/7/2018	Miami
12/7/2018	Sacramento
12/11/2018	Toronto
12/15/2018	Lakers
12/17/2018	Phoenix
12/27/2018	Boston
12/27/2018	Phila
12/29/2018	New York
12/30/2018	Minnesota
1/1/2019	Utah
1/2/2019	Dallas
1/4/2019	Orlando
1/5/2019	Charlotte
1/9/2019	Chicago
1/9/2019	Cleveland
1/9/2019	Detroit
1/15/2019	Phoenix
1/17/2019	Sacramento
1/24/2019	Golden State
1/26/2019	Phila
1/26/2019	Atlanta
1/29/2019	OKC
1/30/2019	Dallas
1/30/2019	Memphis
2/2/2019	Clippers
2/4/2019	Denver
2/5/2019	Miami
2/5/2019	Lakers
2/21/2019	Portland
2/21/2019	Phoenix
2/22/2019	San Antonio
2/27/2019	Milwaukee
2/27/2019	Minnesota
2/27/2019	Golden State
3/3/2019	New York
3/4/2019	Dallas
3/5/2019	Boston
3/9/2019	Sacramento
3/12/2019	Lakers
3/13/2019	Brooklyn
3/15/2019	Chicago
3/16/2019	Indiana
3/18/2019	Denver
3/18/2019	Utah
3/21/2019	Detroit
3/22/2019	Clippers
3/27/2019	Washington
3/27/2019	Portland
3/28/2019	Cleveland

Ergo19 · 10-22-18, 06:29 PM

And it looks like those of us that bought the system years ago with the "included offer" of being informed of the plays are not being fulfilled, unless we pay additional. Mmmm is this a possible class action for non-fulfilment of a contract? I'm not a lawyer but I wonder! And thanks to King of KOP and tdnufb. Like last year, when I have relevant info I will be posting it too, although this year I'm actually moving again and expect to be without internet soon for a while.

Goodluck for everybody this year.

KingofKOP · 10-23-18, 07:03 PM

		Official	Unofficial	Win/Loss	Units	Total
10/22/2018	Washington		x	W Bet A	1	1
10/25/2018	Portland
10/26/2018	Golden State
10/29/2018	Sacramento
11/2/2018	Toronto
11/2/2018	Houston
11/6/2018	Brooklyn
11/6/2018	Milwaukee
11/8/2018	Boston

bjb7223 · 10-23-18, 07:07 PM

Is this Walco?

msetai · 10-23-18, 08:36 PM

2. If team is a favorite of -3 or greater, bet the ML instead.

wouldn't you be laying crazy juice in certain situations? can be in the 1000's and that r:r in a chase system will be deadly.

KingofKOP · 10-25-18, 05:41 AM

10/25/18: Official play: Portland. Money Line. -3 as of this posting. Good luck players!

Ergo19 · 10-25-18, 06:11 AM

The "official" JM words:

Below is today's Champ NBA system bet. Remember that these system bets are based on 3-game series. If the {A} bet falls, you'll need to increase your stake on the {B} wager on the same team for their next game. Same with the possible {C} wager if the {B} bet doesn't come through:

Portland {A} bet - Bet on the money line. Since Portland is a -3.5 favorite, taking the money line is the equivalent of buying 3 points on the spread. You'll also get better odds!

KingofKOP · 10-26-18, 06:10 AM

		Official	Unofficial	Win/Loss	Units	Total Units	Line	Buy Line	Score	Pts Buy Needed?
10/22/2018	Washington		X	W Bet A	1	1	+5	+8	125-124	No
10/25/2018	Portland	X		W Bet A	1	2	-3	ML	128-114	No
10/26/2018	Golden State					2
10/29/2018	Sacramento					2
11/2/2018	Toronto					2
11/2/2018	Houston					2

KingofKOP · 10-26-18, 06:12 AM

10/26/18 Play

10/26/18: Golden State. A Bet. Current line -12, so bet ML per guidelines. I can't find that so going the traditional route of -9 at 170.

consensusontap · 10-26-18, 06:57 AM

Like this play and we all know how big favored NBA teams turn out on Friday night. Thank you for your information.

Ergo19 · 10-26-18, 09:53 AM

And this arrived too:

Good job on picking up the first official win of the season for the Champ NBA Betting System on the Portland Trailblazers. This makes it 1-0 for the season, and 1 of many, many more to come! I feel very good about our chances of going undefeated once again this entire 2018-19 NBA season using this system. We sure did in the most recent season!

Then after paragraphs of sales stuff:

Below is today's Champ NBA system bet. Remember that these system bets are based on 3-game series. If the {A} bet falls, you'll need to increase your stake on the {B} wager on the same team for their next game. Same with the possible {C} wager if the {B} bet doesn't come through:

Golden State {A} bet - You can either bet on the money line, or buy 3 points to bring the currently -12 spread to -9 since the ML odds are very poor.

Goodluck

tdnufb · 10-26-18, 10:08 AM

Thanks for posting the additional info Ergo19 (very helpful to those who haven't followed the chase before) & as always to King of KOP for today's play! Here's to another profitable year.

cash$bro91 · 10-26-18, 02:55 PM

Originally posted by KingofKOP

10/26/18: Golden State. A Bet. Current line -12, so bet ML per guidelines. I can't find that so going the traditional route of -9 at 170.

Which books allow you to buy 3 points at -170? I was offered -185.

KingofKOP · 10-26-18, 08:57 PM

		Official	Unofficial	Win/Loss	Units	Total Units	Line	Buy Line	Score	Pts Buy Needed?
10/22/2018	Washington		X	W Bet A	1	1	+5	+8	125-124	No
10/25/2018	Portland	X		W Bet A	1	2	-3	ML	128-114	No
10/26/2018	Golden State	X		W Bet A	1	3	-12	-9	128-100	No
10/29/2018	Sacramento					3
11/2/2018	Toronto					3
11/2/2018	Houston					3

Great start to season. Enjoy the weekend. Go Birds!!

KingofKOP · 10-29-18, 04:23 AM

10/29/18: Hey all. I can't opine on what odds you're getting. Only reporting what I'm seeing.

Sacramento A bet. Buy three points to +11 for -170. Good luck!

Ergo19 · 10-29-18, 05:56 AM

And the "JM" newsletter says:

Sacramento {A} bet - This is a confirmed official betting series. Wager on the point spread and buy 3 points at no worse than -170 odds to bring the spread from +8 to +11.

tdnufb · 10-29-18, 12:53 PM

Ergo- Thx for always adding if it's an official or unofficial play. Much appreciated guys on your posts for today's play.

realica9 · 10-29-18, 06:30 PM

Which sportsbook you guys use that lets you buy 3 points in nba?

19th Hole · 10-30-18, 02:21 AM

Originally posted by realica9

Which sportsbook you guys use that lets you buy 3 points in nba?

The question is...Which books DON'T let you buy 3 points.
Are you US facing?
5 Dimes, Heritage, BetOnline, BookMaker offer it for starters.

KingofKOP · 10-30-18, 06:03 AM

3-0 official, 1-0 unofficial. Nice start. Happy Halloween. Will check in on Friday.

		Official	Unofficial	Win/Loss	Units	Total Units	Line	Buy Line	Score	Pts Buy Needed?
10/22/2018	Washington		X	W Bet A	1	1	+5	+8	125-124	No
10/25/2018	Portland	X		W Bet A	1	2	-3	ML	128-114	No
10/26/2018	Golden State	X		W Bet A	1	3	-12	-9	128-100	No
10/29/2018	Sacramento	X		W Bet A	1	4	-8	-11	123-113	No
11/2/2018	Toronto					4
11/2/2018	Houston					4

imotiv8 · 10-30-18, 06:05 PM

Idk if anyone is keeping track but I believe Detroit is a V2 or V3 game tonight?