Any thoughts on Phoenix/Indiana game 2?

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  • X-Rated
    SBR High Roller
    • 05-23-09
    • 232

    #1
    Any thoughts on Phoenix/Indiana game 2?
    Any thoughts on Phoenix/Indiana game 2? I think Indiana wins this game, but not sure by how many points.
  • fearless
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    • 08-14-06
    • 4950

    #2
    The Mercury had a 38-19 free throw advantage. If that evens out then the Fever should win game 2 provided Catchings returns to her normal self.
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    • ztballer
      SBR MVP
      • 08-24-09
      • 1007

      #3
      Fever gotta slow the fvck down.

      In 2007, Detroit won both games at home 1 and 2, went to Phoenix and everyone thought they were toast. Detroit did everything but kill the players. Penny Taylor got a killer black eye from an elbow, Ford got injured so bad she had to sit the rest of the series out, etc. Game evens out with Phoenix playing to be in it. Game 5 in Detroit and Phoenix wins it. Underdogs steal it from Detroit.

      I would not bet on game 5 provided there is one.

      Indiana are going to come out guns a blazing. If the line is too high, take 1H Indiana or ML 1H
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      • Emily_Haines
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 04-14-09
        • 15917

        #4
        Hoffman scored 30 pts, gotto think Phoenix comes up with a way to slow her down. Plus Indiana shot 55%. Don't think either of these happen again.
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        • chubber911
          SBR High Roller
          • 06-24-09
          • 201

          #5
          Lines are out. Phoenix -4, OU 179.

          I knew the line would spike after game 1's results. What's changed? Same teams, same venue, 2 days later. Biggest thing on linesmaker's minds right now is that last game had a massive score. That doesn't change what we should be expecting from these teams if they played this game infinite times. Under 179 looks delicious to me.
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          • chubber911
            SBR High Roller
            • 06-24-09
            • 201

            #6
            I don't think I'm going to be touching sides in this series. From the looks of game 2's line I can already say I'm pretty confident it will be a no play for me. The way I cap games, one game doesn't change too much (it changes a bit) in how I determine my edge. Since I determined my edge was negative for one team, and barely breakeven for the other I don't think enough's going to change before tomorrow. Usually for bets in basketball I'm looking for at least 3 or 4 points over the spread before picking a side. When it comes to totals, I'm looking for at least 9 pts.
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            • SportsTerminator
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 02-18-09
              • 5179

              #7
              I say this will be a close game and better defense will be played. I say under 179. Indiana played a heck of a game and they still lost. Home court momentum is big so I like Phoenix for the win again. And if that's so I'll be POUNDING Indiana game 3. I so hope Phoenix wins please win lol.
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              • chubber911
                SBR High Roller
                • 06-24-09
                • 201

                #8
                ST, you taking Phoenix on ML or ATS for game 2?
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                • SportsTerminator
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 02-18-09
                  • 5179

                  #9
                  Phoenix to win game 2 is just a lean. But if they win that I'll most likely be taking Indy ML game 3 as an official play for me.
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                  • HoulihansTX
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 02-12-09
                    • 30566

                    #10


                    I looked at this site, and it pretty much maps out the gambling perspective for us. OVER in game one, UNDER + take the team who lost game 1 for game 2.

                    Indiana +points & UNDER. I'm waiting b4 tipoff to bet to get the best numbers.
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                    • X-Rated
                      SBR High Roller
                      • 05-23-09
                      • 232

                      #11
                      I think Indiana wins game 2 and the game goes under. Phoenix will either try to steal game 3 or 4 at Indiana.
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                      • X-Rated
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 05-23-09
                        • 232

                        #12
                        Game 1 the line opened at 4.5 but game two the line opened at 4. This should tell us something.
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                        • fearless
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                          • 08-14-06
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by X-Rated
                          Game 1 the line opened at 4.5 but game two the line opened at 4. This should tell us something.
                          LVSC's opening number was -3.5. A lot of bettors blindly follow the zig-zag theory in the playoffs so the oddsmakers usually take that into account when they make the line.
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                          • ztballer
                            SBR MVP
                            • 08-24-09
                            • 1007

                            #14
                            Phoenix coach and Taurasi want the game to go faster than game 1.

                            I know Indiana is going to WANT to slow it down to even have a chance of winning but for anyone who has played basketball, it is easy to get caught up in the pace of the game, especially when you've got a crowd driving up the pace.

                            Playoffs getting trickier. I can either see Indiana take it OR Phoenix scrape in the win, then Indiana go on to win the next 2.

                            I'm laying a small wager on Phoenix -4, then I will continue to play the live in play.
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                            • Tennispro
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 01-13-09
                              • 512

                              #15
                              Indiana +5 gl all.
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                              • Emily_Haines
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 04-14-09
                                • 15917

                                #16
                                Wrong! Fever does not want to slow it down.
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                                • ghn999
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                                  • 01-24-09
                                  • 367

                                  #17

                                  I would take the over in this one. It going to be a fast pace game. Over Baby!
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                                  • RoagBettor
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 01-20-09
                                    • 8355

                                    #18
                                    You can't slow Phoenix down, they will run no matter what. The Fever have no chance unless 2 things happen:

                                    1. They play defense and force Phoenix to miss shots.
                                    2. The refs call a loose game and let them play hard D.

                                    I think (hope) the refs will try to keep this one close and not call as many fouls that would dictate the Mercury running away with the game.
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                                    • fearless
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                                      • 08-14-06
                                      • 4950

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by RoagBettor
                                      You can't slow Phoenix down, they will run no matter what. The Fever have no chance unless 2 things happen:

                                      1. They play defense and force Phoenix to miss shots.
                                      2. The refs call a loose game and let them play hard D.

                                      I think (hope) the refs will try to keep this one close and not call as many fouls that would dictate the Mercury running away with the game.
                                      What are you talking about? The Fever beat the Mercury in Pheonix 90-83 the first time the teams met this year. They were up 96-89 with five and a half minutes remaining in game one and they had the lead with 1:40 left in overtime. If it wasn't for a choke job in game one they'd be 2-0 in Phoenix playing the run and gun style all the way. Please explain why you made that post, the facts don't back it up, imho.
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                                      • Domestic
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 02-10-09
                                        • 6323

                                        #20
                                        Glad I got on the over @ 180 it is now 181.5 most places.
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                                        • RoagBettor
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 01-20-09
                                          • 8355

                                          #21
                                          fearless,

                                          In Game 1 of the playoffs, the Fever had a great chance to win and didn't. If Phoenix is hitting their shots you need to play a near-perfect game to outscore them. The Fever couldn't.

                                          The game the Fever won in August is more indicative of how Game 2 needs to go for them. Phoenix shot 3-14 from 3 point land and was outrebounded 43-26.

                                          Indiana will NOT win trying to outscore them like they did at Indiana and in Game 1 without playing good defense. They need to play hard D and the refs need to let them bang the boards and not call ticky-tack fouls.
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                                          • chubber911
                                            SBR High Roller
                                            • 06-24-09
                                            • 201

                                            #22
                                            It's going under tonight. Total will be <170 pts.
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                                            • fearless
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                                              • 08-14-06
                                              • 4950

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by RoagBettor
                                              fearless,

                                              In Game 1 of the playoffs, the Fever had a great chance to win and didn't. If Phoenix is hitting their shots you need to play a near-perfect game to outscore them. The Fever couldn't.

                                              The game the Fever won in August is more indicative of how Game 2 needs to go for them. Phoenix shot 3-14 from 3 point land and was outrebounded 43-26.

                                              Indiana will NOT win trying to outscore them like they did at Indiana and in Game 1 without playing good defense. They need to play hard D and the refs need to let them bang the boards and not call ticky-tack fouls.
                                              I don't agree. They choked game one away. The Mercury never would have won that game without the huge free throw disparity either. You're usually right but I think you're wrong here. Are you betting on this game? I have over 180.
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                                              • chubber911
                                                SBR High Roller
                                                • 06-24-09
                                                • 201

                                                #24
                                                Someone convince me not to play sides in this match up. I originally made that decision, but the line movement is kicking me in the face telling me to bet Phoenix.
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                                                • fearless
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                                                  • 08-14-06
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by chubber911
                                                  Someone convince me not to play sides in this match up. I originally made that decision, but the line movement is kicking me in the face telling me to bet Phoenix.
                                                  Don't get caught up in line movement and take Phoenix, they barely won with a 38-19 free throw advantage. I'll say it 1000 times, if the free throws even out I expect the Fever to win. In fact, I'll bet someone points at +100 odds that if the Fever shoot more free throws than the Mercury the Fever will win this game.

                                                  Any takers?
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                                                  • BL
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 05-11-09
                                                    • 4070

                                                    #26
                                                    Indiana +4,5 tonight
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                                                    • chubber911
                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                      • 06-24-09
                                                      • 201

                                                      #27
                                                      fearless,

                                                      Phoenix shot 46% from the field this season, and 49% in the playoffs. They shot 50% in game 1.
                                                      Indiana shot 40% from the field this season, and 39.5% in the playoffs. They shot 55.6% in game 1.

                                                      +19 free throws is not exactly the deciding factor you are making it out to be. Indiana averages only 32 baskets per 81 shots, not the 45 they made in game 1. Phoenix sunk 38 baskets, and averages 36 per 76 shots. This speaks much louder to me than the FT totals.
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                                                      • fearless
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                                                        • 08-14-06
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by chubber911
                                                        fearless,

                                                        Phoenix shot 46% from the field this season, and 49% in the playoffs. They shot 50% in game 1.
                                                        Indiana shot 40% from the field this season, and 39.5% in the playoffs. They shot 55.6% in game 1.

                                                        +19 free throws is not exactly the deciding factor you are making it out to be. Indiana averages only 32 baskets per 81 shots, not the 45 they made in game 1. Phoenix sunk 38 baskets, and averages 36 per 76 shots. This speaks much louder to me than the FT totals.
                                                        Do you want my points bet? I'll give you Phoenix ML +100 for 30 points but it's only action IF the Fever shoot more free throws than Phoenix. Interested?
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                                                        • chubber911
                                                          SBR High Roller
                                                          • 06-24-09
                                                          • 201

                                                          #29
                                                          You got yourself a date.
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                                                          • fearless
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                                                            • 08-14-06
                                                            • 4950

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by chubber911
                                                            You got yourself a date.
                                                            No need to post up, I trust you. We'll settle after the game (if necessary).

                                                            This is what I call an IF BET.
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                                                            • X-Rated
                                                              SBR High Roller
                                                              • 05-23-09
                                                              • 232

                                                              #31
                                                              Dam Indiana/Phoenix shooting lights out. I'm worry about the UNDER.
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                                                              • RoagBettor
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 01-20-09
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by fearless
                                                                I don't agree. They choked game one away. The Mercury never would have won that game without the huge free throw disparity either. You're usually right but I think you're wrong here. Are you betting on this game? I have over 180.
                                                                I may not always be right, but if there's one sport I know it's basketball.
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                                                                • fearless
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                                                                  • 08-14-06
                                                                  • 4950

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by RoagBettor
                                                                  I may not always be right, but if there's one sport I know it's basketball.
                                                                  Nice hit, I know you know your stuff. Anyone who took the under was lucky to win though, imho, the beginning of the fourth quarter was ridiculous. Both teams were suddenly ice cold for 5 minutes, if you tell me that you factored something like that into your handicapping I have to call BS.
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                                                                  • fearless
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                                                                    • 08-14-06
                                                                    • 4950

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by chubber911
                                                                    You got yourself a date.
                                                                    Thank you for the fast payment!
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                                                                    • SportsTerminator
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 02-18-09
                                                                      • 5179

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Congrats Under backers I was leaning towards the under too... but what suprises me is great defense was played, Phoenix miss free throws, Phoenix loss, AND IT STILL ALMOST WENT OVER. It just missed it by 2!!!!! WOW. It makes you want to pound the over game 3... I say Phoenix wins game 3 and it goes Over. But more confident in the Over than in Phoenix.
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