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  • cs11787
    SBR MVP
    • 08-26-08
    • 1088

    #36
    Originally posted by dbartinbwgc
    A friend just gave me the new JM WNBA system.
    Looking for a 3 game road trip where 2 of the 3 game are cross conference.
    Buying 3 points chase your bet.


    PM for details more details

    2009 WNBA System Betting Schedule
    7/9 LOS ANGELES, vs. New York; Washington; Connecticut (Series has ended. Won at the [A] bet.)

    7/11 DETROIT, vs. Connecticut; Seattle; Phoenix

    7/22 SACRAMENTO, vs. Connecticut; New York; Washington

    7/26 PHOENIX, vs. New York; Connecticut; Atlanta

    8/8 INDIANA, vs. Phoenix; Los Angeles; Minnesota

    8/13 SEATTLE, vs. Connecticut; Atlanta; Detroit

    8/15 MINNESOTA, vs. Chicago; Connecticut; New York

    8/18 WASHINGTON, vs. Los Angeles; phoenix; Sacramento

    8/25 SACRAMENTO, vs. Atlanta; Minnesota; Indiana

    8/27 ATLANTA, vs. Detroit; Seattle; Los Angeles

    8/27 CONNECTICUT, vs. Seattle; phoenix; Los Angeles

    9/1 SEATTLE, vs. New York; Washington; Minnesota
    Is that the whole WNBA System betting schedule for the season? Not very many games left.
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    • dukipl
      SBR Sharp
      • 04-08-09
      • 376

      #37
      Phoenix won on [a] bet
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      • cs11787
        SBR MVP
        • 08-26-08
        • 1088

        #38
        Wow I wait till this morning and the line goes to -2?!?!
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        • SportsTerminator
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 02-18-09
          • 5179

          #39
          So Phoenix beat Liberty... does that mean they will automatically lose to Connecticut according to the JM system? How does that work if they win the first game?
          Bet To Win
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          • SexyMit
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 10-12-06
            • 6139

            #40
            2009 WNBA System Betting Schedule
            7/9 LOS ANGELES, vs. New York; Washington; Connecticut (Series has ended. Won at the [A] bet.)

            7/11 DETROIT, vs. Connecticut; Seattle; Phoenix Won on (a) bet

            7/22 SACRAMENTO, vs. Connecticut; New York; Washington Won on (b) bet

            7/26 PHOENIX, vs. New York; Connecticut; Atlanta Won on (a) bet

            8/8 INDIANA, vs. Phoenix; Los Angeles; Minnesota

            8/13 SEATTLE, vs. Connecticut; Atlanta; Detroit

            8/15 MINNESOTA, vs. Chicago; Connecticut; New York

            8/18 WASHINGTON, vs. Los Angeles; phoenix; Sacramento

            8/25 SACRAMENTO, vs. Atlanta; Minnesota; Indiana

            8/27 ATLANTA, vs. Detroit; Seattle; Los Angeles

            8/27 CONNECTICUT, vs. Seattle; phoenix; Los Angeles

            9/1 SEATTLE, vs. New York; Washington; Minnesota
            If it seems to good to be true it usually is!!

            I have a natural instinct to exploit market ineffieciencies!!
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            • cs11787
              SBR MVP
              • 08-26-08
              • 1088

              #41
              Originally posted by SportsTerminator
              So Phoenix beat Liberty... does that mean they will automatically lose to Connecticut according to the JM system? How does that work if they win the first game?
              It doesnt necessarily mean theyre going to lose their next game. The way the system works is you play that team until they win and go on to the next series.
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              • SportsTerminator
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 02-18-09
                • 5179

                #42
                Yea I was doing some research and Detroit won both a and b bets but Sacramento won b but lost a. So the best bet is C bet if the team lost both a and b surely their guaranteed to win C. Has a team or system ever lost all 3 a,b, and c? So I'm thinking ALL IN on a C bet if the team lost both a and b bets...
                Bet To Win
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                • corona
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 03-12-09
                  • 722

                  #43
                  Originally posted by SportsTerminator
                  Yea I was doing some research and Detroit won both a and b bets but Sacramento won b but lost a. So the best bet is C bet if the team lost both a and b surely their guaranteed to win C. Has a team or system ever lost all 3 a,b, and c? So I'm thinking ALL IN on a C bet if the team lost both a and b bets...
                  there's been a push with a 3 point buy. so if you got the line a half point off what covers listed, you would have lost.

                  never good to go all in on one play.
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                  • Samson15
                    Restricted User
                    • 04-06-09
                    • 117

                    #44
                    Sexymit what is the best way to find a local bookie ?
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                    • SexyMit
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 10-12-06
                      • 6139

                      #45
                      Hell you got me!
                      If it seems to good to be true it usually is!!

                      I have a natural instinct to exploit market ineffieciencies!!
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                      • Samson15
                        Restricted User
                        • 04-06-09
                        • 117

                        #46
                        Originally posted by SexyMit
                        Hell you got me!
                        Lol..
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                        • SKiLLsSoLoN
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 07-22-09
                          • 905

                          #47
                          I hate to bring this back but i found a flaw! I Just wanted to share cause I think it's funny. Maybe people will find my finding to be nice for today.

                          Visit ESPN for live scores, highlights and sports news. Stream exclusive games on ESPN and play fantasy sports.

                          Today is bet [A] right?

                          If you need proof look at who they play

                          Originally posted by SexyMit
                          7/11 DETROIT, vs. Connecticut; Seattle; Phoenix
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                          • theanimal13
                            SBR Rookie
                            • 08-04-09
                            • 7

                            #48
                            Originally posted by SKiLLsSoLoN
                            I hate to bring this back but i found a flaw! I Just wanted to share cause I think it's funny. Maybe people will find my finding to be nice for today.

                            Visit ESPN for live scores, highlights and sports news. Stream exclusive games on ESPN and play fantasy sports.

                            Today is bet [A] right?

                            If you need proof look at who they play

                            It only qualifies as an official play if the road trip is against 3 out-of-conference opponents. Detroit plays in the Eastern Conference with NY. The official series would start on 08/07/09 against Sacramento.
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                            • SKiLLsSoLoN
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 07-22-09
                              • 905

                              #49
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                              • linglingfool
                                SBR Sharp
                                • 06-10-09
                                • 326

                                #50
                                Originally posted by SKiLLsSoLoN
                                I hate to bring this back but i found a flaw! I Just wanted to share cause I think it's funny. Maybe people will find my finding to be nice for today.

                                Visit ESPN for live scores, highlights and sports news. Stream exclusive games on ESPN and play fantasy sports.

                                Today is bet [A] right?

                                If you need proof look at who they play
                                I think you're confusing people, because you're talking about two different things -- the Liberty game last Tuesday, and the Shock game from a month ago.
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                                • masticore
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 07-24-09
                                  • 1177

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by corona
                                  omg seriously?

                                  i'm trying not to be a jerk here...but it seems that nobody can read. it says it at the top of this page...in the other thread it says the instructions probably 6-8 times and people still ask how to play. "buying 3 points chase your bet" is pretty straightforward to me.

                                  frustrating.
                                  I'm one of the stupied once

                                  Understand that you buy 3 points ..... but......

                                  Do you buy them from 0 or from the line...

                                  Is this correct ( I know this is not one of his playes..but use it as an example)

                                  Det - Was

                                  Det +4

                                  But to follow JM's system I buy it up to Det +7

                                  If that example is correct than have even I understand it, is it?

                                  BOL
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                                  • corona
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 03-12-09
                                    • 722

                                    #52
                                    buy the 3 points from the spread. that's correct

                                    i doubt its even possible to do it any other way. (you can't buy 3 points on the moneyline)
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                                    • masticore
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 07-24-09
                                      • 1177

                                      #53
                                      Thx for quick answear

                                      Originally posted by corona
                                      buy the 3 points from the spread. that's correct

                                      i doubt its even possible to do it any other way. (you can't buy 3 points on the moneyline)
                                      In my sport book can I in my example play bet from:
                                      Det: -3 to +11
                                      Was: -11 to +3

                                      BOL
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                                      • DJ RM
                                        SBR High Roller
                                        • 06-21-09
                                        • 100

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by corona
                                        buy the 3 points from the spread. that's correct

                                        i doubt its even possible to do it any other way. (you can't buy 3 points on the moneyline)
                                        Originally posted by masticore
                                        In my sport book can I in my example play bet from:
                                        Det: -3 to +11
                                        Was: -11 to +3

                                        BOL
                                        The most you can usually buy is about 7 or 8 but you have to pay a lot to do it, like -730, or 730 to win 100. If you want to move the line that much you have to do it an a teaser, where you get anywhere from 4 to 8 points (in basketball) across mutiple bets (2 to 6), but you have to win all the games or you lose, like a parlay. It usually pays about even money, but it depends on how many teams you combine, how many points you move the line, and what book you have.

                                        In this case, the most you could move it as 2 team teaser is
                                        Det -3, Was -11 to
                                        Det +2, Was -6
                                        and it would cost -130, depending on your book.

                                        Generally, I would say teasers are dangerous and it is smarter to make straight bets - either don't move the line or don't make the bet.
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                                        • pelos879
                                          SBR High Roller
                                          • 03-19-09
                                          • 222

                                          #55
                                          NY is the play tonight right? They play Sac, Seattle, and LA on the road. How come Morrison didn't mention this series?
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                                          • Cyril
                                            SBR High Roller
                                            • 01-23-09
                                            • 245

                                            #56
                                            8/8 INDIANA, vs. Phoenix; Los Angeles; Minnesota Won on (A) bet
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                                            • brandon m
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 07-06-09
                                              • 604

                                              #57
                                              Ok just for everyone who might be reading this looking for a book that does 3 points for -170. Betus does this line but I watched and they had shaved a full point off the line knowing the amount of JM system players that were betting this game on the BETUS site. The line I bought was 3.5 at bookmaker and if I had bought it a few hours earlier it was at 4 even. I bought 2 points to put it at 5.5. The betus line was at 2.5 right after I put in my bet at bookmaker. Insane if you ask me. So the proof is in the pudding here, betus may be a great book but if your doing JM system plays watch out because there shaving points off them.
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                                              • texhooper
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 01-05-09
                                                • 10001

                                                #58
                                                justin7 has a video about how betus and jm have a little scam going. i know it's on youtube, i suppose it's here somewhere as well. he also said in ck's and sexy mit's thread that if you bet on the other side of those faulty jm lines a few times they will adjust accordingly and give you the correct lines. don't know any of this personally, just relaying. i believe it all though.
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                                                • Nickelicious
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 05-21-09
                                                  • 2647

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by texhooper
                                                  justin7 has a video about how betus and jm have a little scam going. i know it's on youtube, i suppose it's here somewhere as well. he also said in ck's and sexy mit's thread that if you bet on the other side of those faulty jm lines a few times they will adjust accordingly and give you the correct lines. don't know any of this personally, just relaying. i believe it all though.
                                                  I believe that is true. Been with BetUs before I ever heard of JM because I liked their site. Got screwed on some funny lines, but I mixed them up by betting on the other side a few times and the problem seemed to be resolved (try betting on some crappy A bets a few times with low units). Mind you, the spread is still hinky on baseball because of their 20-cent lines, but I have found their RL often pays better than WSEX, 5dimes or BetJam.

                                                  And as for the NBA, you might find a line off kilter a bit, but you make it up by buying the three points at -170. What is the Greek? -200 or -220? Shit. I'll take BetUs.

                                                  BetUs gets hammered on this forum for their tactics, but they are still my largest book because of their easy deposit methods (which I hope I don't have to do again) and generous free play (easy money when betting with a system!).
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                                                  • kengarou
                                                    SBR Hustler
                                                    • 08-08-09
                                                    • 85

                                                    #60
                                                    Ok guys, I am from Singapore here and I am very new to US sports, so for the next upcoming WNBA schedule on 13 August 2009 which is SEATTLE, vs. Connecticut , I must take Seattle plus 3 points on the point spread. that is for bet A, but if Seattle lose , on their next game on the road against Atlanta(which is on 15 august 2009) I do the same for bet B by buying 3 points , but if they lose again , and on the road to meeting Detriot(which is on 18 of august 2009) for the Bet C , I do the same thing by buying 3 points. So am i doing it correctly or am i wrong?
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                                                    • kengarou
                                                      SBR Hustler
                                                      • 08-08-09
                                                      • 85

                                                      #61
                                                      There is one more thing I have to add as well . let's say the team i am betting on is a favourite and let's say the pointspread is -8. So by buying three points i am reducing the spread to -5 ? Am i right to say that? As for the underdog , let's say if it is +8 intially and by buying 3 points , I am increasing the spread to +11. So is everything what i mention down here goes according to the WNBA system as describe?
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                                                      • Cyril
                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                        • 01-23-09
                                                        • 245

                                                        #62
                                                        Yes. What you said it is correct kengarou.
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                                                        • Cyril
                                                          SBR High Roller
                                                          • 01-23-09
                                                          • 245

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by texhooper
                                                          justin7 has a video about how betus and jm have a little scam going. i know it's on youtube, i suppose it's here somewhere as well. he also said in ck's and sexy mit's thread that if you bet on the other side of those faulty jm lines a few times they will adjust accordingly and give you the correct lines. don't know any of this personally, just relaying. i believe it all though.
                                                          You talk about this video?

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                                                          • kengarou
                                                            SBR Hustler
                                                            • 08-08-09
                                                            • 85

                                                            #64
                                                            Sorry if this has been repeated elsewhere, in order to get odds of -170 for buying 3 points , which sportsbook must I used other than BetUS?
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                                                            • kmarinouofm
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 01-26-09
                                                              • 8437

                                                              #65
                                                              the greek does it over the phone
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                                                              • brandon m
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 07-06-09
                                                                • 604

                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by kmarinouofm
                                                                the greek does it over the phone
                                                                The greek does 3 points for 170 over the phone?
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                                                                • texhooper
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 01-05-09
                                                                  • 10001

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by Cyril
                                                                  that would be the one.
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                                                                  • kengarou
                                                                    SBR Hustler
                                                                    • 08-08-09
                                                                    • 85

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by Nickelicious
                                                                    I believe that is true. Been with BetUs before I ever heard of JM because I liked their site. Got screwed on some funny lines, but I mixed them up by betting on the other side a few times and the problem seemed to be resolved (try betting on some crappy A bets a few times with low units). Mind you, the spread is still hinky on baseball because of their 20-cent lines, but I have found their RL often pays better than WSEX, 5dimes or BetJam.

                                                                    And as for the NBA, you might find a line off kilter a bit, but you make it up by buying the three points at -170. What is the Greek? -200 or -220? Shit. I'll take BetUs.

                                                                    BetUs gets hammered on this forum for their tactics, but they are still my largest book because of their easy deposit methods (which I hope I don't have to do again) and generous free play (easy money when betting with a system!).

                                                                    Hi , i am from Singapore down here, I know betus.com is good and all that, but I have read negative reviews on the net saying that they have withdrawal problems whenever you wanna withdraw your winnings, how are your views on betus.com? do you encountered any problems from that sportsbook?
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                                                                    • texhooper
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 01-05-09
                                                                      • 10001

                                                                      #69
                                                                      check the sportsbooks and the industry forum, or pm someone who's said they use betus and see if they'll respond to you.
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                                                                      • Nickelicious
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 05-21-09
                                                                        • 2647

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by kengarou
                                                                        Hi , i am from Singapore down here, I know betus.com is good and all that, but I have read negative reviews on the net saying that they have withdrawal problems whenever you wanna withdraw your winnings, how are your views on betus.com? do you encountered any problems from that sportsbook?
                                                                        BetUs has a terrible grade here and it is well-deserved. Mind you, some of it came from a year or two ago (or more), when they really sucked balls, but they have improved. I've never had a problem with them and it helps to have a personal account manager, who can get things done for you better than just anybody on the customer service line.

                                                                        They will always grade low here because they are John Morrison's book and they have really screwy odds because so many JM players drive the lines whacko there. JM has a lot of followers AND a lot of haters on this board, but more haters than followers and so BetUs will never have a positive grade here. Which is fine. There are dozens of better books and I have three of them, too (5dimes, BetJam, Greek), but my biggest wad is at BetUs cuz I built my BR with the NBA system plays last season.
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