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  • Chance Harper
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 07-20-07
    • 788

    #1
    Kobe, Lakers go for No. 16 vs. Orlando Magic
    Kobe, Lakers go for No. 16 vs. Orlando Magic

    Dwight Howard and the Magic must not have received the memo regarding the NBA's dream matchup in the Finals. Orlando closed out their Eastern Conference title with a 103-90 win over the Cavaliers on Saturday night, ending the chance for a Kobe, LeBron matchup in the championship series. The Magic go for their first NBA title while the Lakers look for No. 16, with Game 1 set for Thursday in LA.


    Think of all the precious Vitamin Water that’s gone to waste because the Orlando Magic spoiled the NBA’s dream Finals by taking out MVP LeBron James and the Cleveland Cavaliers.



    That was my initial reaction when I watched the final seconds tick off the clock in Orlando’s 103-90 win as 2-point chalk on the betting odds over Cleveland in Game 6 of the Eastern Conference Finals on Saturday night. It’s no secret the marketing department at league office – and every square bettor in the country – wanted a Lakers-Cavaliers title bout all season. The hype intensified after Kevin Garnett’s knee injury all but precluded a Boston repeat, although the Celtics managed to give the Magic a tougher go than LeBron’s Cavs did.

    My second thought, of course, was centered on handicapping the Finals. L.A.-Orlando is a much more difficult beast to assess than Kobe-LeBron (the teams involved would have been the Lakers and Cavaliers, just so you know). The Lakers and Magic are the two most versatile teams in the Association, and they both have the ability to throw a variety of styles into the mix. The clubs match up very well, yet cause troublesome realities for each other. Expect the series to be a huge chess match between Phil Jackson and Stan Van Gundy.

    Orlando is by far the better wager, and the numbers only tell half the story. The Magic are 7-1 ATS in their last eight games overall dating back to their series with the Celtics, and have gone 9-4 against the number since dispatching the Philadelphia 76ers in six games in the opening round. L.A. is a wash at 9-9 ATS through the first three rounds, but it’s the Lakers’ lack of consistency on a number of levels that makes them virtually impossible to wager.

    When you add all the public money that’s going to come in on Los Angeles before Thursday night’s Game 1, you’d be a fool to bet the Purple & Gold against the spread at pretty much any point in the Finals. If this thing goes the distance in the Lakers’ favor, don’t be at all surprised if the Magic cover in five or six of the games.

    The two meetings during the regular season are to be taken with a grain of salt. Orlando won and cashed on both occasions, but injured point guard Jameer Nelson was its leading scorer in both paydays. Nelson torched the Derek Fisher/Jordan Farmar combo much like Aaron Brooks was able to do in L.A.’s series with Houston, but Rafer Alston isn’t likely to have the same success.

    The Lakers were also a different team when the Magic (+4½) won 109-103 at Staples Center on January 16. Vladimir Radmanovic was still in the starting lineup, and Andrew Bynum was playing his best basketball of the season before his second knee injury. Bynum isn’t back in form, and barring a miracle, he won’t be in time for Thursday. Trevor Ariza is in for Radmanovic; overall it’s an upgrade for L.A. although VladRad’s three-point shooting helped spread the floor for the first unit.

    The matchup on December 20 in Orlando presents a more promising outlook for sharps burning some capital on the Magic (+250) to cash on the series prices board. Nelson (27 points) was once again the catalyst, but Orlando (+1½) managed to win 106-103 despite Los Angeles’ 24-of-25 performance from the line. The Lakers (-270 to win the Finals outright) aren’t going to shoot 96% from the stripe again, so they’ll need to shore things up on the defensive end to even hope of covering at Amway Arena.

    Expect oddsmakers to move L.A. off its 6-point fave tag for Game 1 despite equal action through Sunday night. My guess is the public simply hasn’t weighed in with the Finals still three days away; the Lakers should be giving closer to seven points by the time Jack Nicholson takes his seat.

    Los Angeles has been a dependable under play in the playoffs, having gone under in 12 of its 18 contests. Jackson likes to slow the offense (especially on the road) as compared to his approach in the regular season, when the Lakers run the triangle for the duration of the game if ahead. If you’re capping the opener to be tight, you might want to look closely at the under on the 206-point total.
  • HoulihansTX
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 02-12-09
    • 30566

    #2
    You should write for a newspaper, or at least get paid for this. Correct spelling, theories that make sense. Good Shit.
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    • Irish Jet
      SBR Sharp
      • 12-02-08
      • 320

      #3
      Good post.

      Think I'll just enjoy the finals and root for the Lakers. I had huge success betting in the playoffs (Especially on the Orlando Magic) but I hate betting against the Lakers because it ruins the game and betting on any team I support is always dangerous.
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      • pavyracer
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 04-12-07
        • 82839

        #4
        After reading the article I believe the title is wrong. It should be: "Howard and the Magic are out to embarass Kobe and bring the first one in Disney World!"
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        • BrandonLaz
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 11-18-08
          • 855

          #5
          Originally posted by Irish Jet
          Good post.

          Think I'll just enjoy the finals and root for the Lakers. I had huge success betting in the playoffs (Especially on the Orlando Magic) but I hate betting against the Lakers because it ruins the game and betting on any team I support is always dangerous.
          I love that theory I do the same with the Michigan Wolverines if I think they won't cover or win I just lay off the game so I can still root for them. I only bet when I am very confident in a play on them. This series is going to be a great one I really think it is going to be a ton better than a Cavs vs Lakers matchup would have been as LA could have easily swept or won in 5. Now I think it is going 6 or 7 with an LA win, but Orlando could shock the world as the Pistons did.
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          • Irish Jet
            SBR Sharp
            • 12-02-08
            • 320

            #6
            Originally posted by BrandonLaz
            I love that theory I do the same with the Michigan Wolverines if I think they won't cover or win I just lay off the game so I can still root for them. I only bet when I am very confident in a play on them. This series is going to be a great one I really think it is going to be a ton better than a Cavs vs Lakers matchup would have been as LA could have easily swept or won in 5. Now I think it is going 6 or 7 with an LA win, but Orlando could shock the world as the Pistons did.
            Yup. If the matchup was LA vs Clev you could rest assured that I would not be laying off. The Magic are just a tough team to play against and can cause matchup problems with anyone.

            Also, the article pointed out that Jameer Nelson was largely the main guy in the Magic's wins over LA in the regular season. I didn't see it mention that there is talk of him playing in this series.

            If that does happen (I personally don't think it will) it could have a pretty big bearing on the outcome of the series. It would be something that I'd want to be aware of before laying down much on either team.
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            • lakerboy
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 04-02-09
              • 94379

              #7
              I think bettors are taking the magic cause they covered large in the series agaisnt the cavs. The lakers are always tough to forecast on the spread but just when you dont think they will cover they end up covering. I would say take LA in game 1 and then see what happens.
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              • Ralphie1412
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 01-29-08
                • 13963

                #8
                too much time on your hands.
                "This is why my basketball intelligence is unmatched on this site. I'm sure there are better cappers but no one can tell you the strategies of most coaches before the game even starts "
                Goat Milk
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                • HoulihansTX
                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                  • 02-12-09
                  • 30566

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Ralphie1412
                  too much time on your hands.
                  He's an accredited writer for SBR Forum I just came to find out. One of the few on the SBR payroll who dont spend their time trying to get the forum on the wrong side of a play, and much appreciated for that.

                  If you see a hater point them out ---->Ralphie
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                  • lakerboy
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 04-02-09
                    • 94379

                    #10
                    Originally posted by HoulihansTX
                    He's an accredited writer for SBR Forum I just came to find out. One of the few on the SBR payroll who dont spend their time trying to get the forum on the wrong side of a play, and much appreciated for that.

                    If you see a hater point them out ---->Ralphie
                    bro why do you call everyone a hater
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                    • HoulihansTX
                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                      • 02-12-09
                      • 30566

                      #11
                      Originally posted by lakerboy
                      bro why do you call everyone a hater
                      Not everyone, just the haters. Ralphie & G's pk's are SBR's most prominent hater's to date. You're fairly new to the forum, but wait and see. By mid NFL season you'll feel me on this.
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                      • lakerboy
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 04-02-09
                        • 94379

                        #12
                        cool
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                        • Ralphie1412
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 01-29-08
                          • 13963

                          #13
                          Houlihans so which is it over or under?

                          He Feels strongly both ways.
                          "This is why my basketball intelligence is unmatched on this site. I'm sure there are better cappers but no one can tell you the strategies of most coaches before the game even starts "
                          Goat Milk
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                          • hoopster42
                            Restricted User
                            • 02-12-08
                            • 6099

                            #14
                            the part about the lakers possibly going to -7 is completely incorrect. after the way the magic dispatched the cavs in dominating fashion, no way the line moves for the lakers. it either stays put at -6 or moves down to -5.5 or -5. its not going to -7.
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                            • pavyracer
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 04-12-07
                              • 82839

                              #15
                              .

                              The two meetings during the regular season are to be taken with a grain of salt. Orlando won and cashed on both occasions, but injured point guard Jameer Nelson was its leading scorer in both paydays. Nelson torched the Derek Fisher/Jordan Farmar combo much like Aaron Brooks was able to do in L.A.’s series with Houston, but Rafer Alston isn’t likely to have the same success.

                              If a rookie (Brooks) torchured L.A.'s guards a seasoned veteran like Alston will annihilate them. And Alston played for Houston most of the season. I'm pretty sure his rookie ex-teamate Brooks will give him a few tips.

                              The Lakers were also a different team when the Magic (+4½) won 109-103 at Staples Center on January 16. Vladimir Radmanovic was still in the starting lineup, and Andrew Bynum was playing his best basketball of the season before his second knee injury. Bynum isn’t back in form, and barring a miracle, he won’t be in time for Thursday. Trevor Ariza is in for Radmanovic; overall it’s an upgrade for L.A. although VladRad’s three-point shooting helped spread the floor for the first unit.

                              So Ariza is an upgrade from Radmanovic? Wrong again. Radmanovic would know how to guard a fellow European player with similar style like his in Turkoglu. And an Andrew Bynum playing his best play of the year in January is not an upgrade on a Bynum coming back from surgery in knees and having a ton of tough playoff games on these bang up knees.
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                              • lakerboy
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 04-02-09
                                • 94379

                                #16
                                Originally posted by pavyracer
                                .
                                I think you might have a heart attack if LA wins.
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                                • lakerboy
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 04-02-09
                                  • 94379

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by hoopster42
                                  the part about the lakers possibly going to -7 is completely incorrect. after the way the magic dispatched the cavs in dominating fashion, no way the line moves for the lakers. it either stays put at -6 or moves down to -5.5 or -5. its not going to -7.

                                  I think this is the only time i will agree with you in my life
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                                  • BrandonLaz
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 11-18-08
                                    • 855

                                    #18
                                    This is a game by game series for sure. In Game 1 I believe the play is the Lakers when looking at their experience. That is something that can not be overlooked when playing for the Championship. Playing into that is the fact that I think this game stays under as well. The Lakers lost in the NBA Finals last year due to the fact that they did not play well enough on the defensive end. Game 1 should be a statement game where they try to bring their all on the defensive side of the ball slowing the pace down and keeping this one under the total. Other than that this series will be full of some great games, and I really look forward to it.
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                                    • pavyracer
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 04-12-07
                                      • 82839

                                      #19
                                      Lakers lost first game to Rockets and didn't cover the first Denver game. Anyone laying -6 on Lakers is suicidal.
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                                      • BrandonLaz
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 11-18-08
                                        • 855

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by pavyracer
                                        Lakers lost first game to Rockets and didn't cover the first Denver game. Anyone laying -6 on Lakers is suicidal.
                                        True, but I am also a big fan of fading the public in the Big Games. More of the public is on Orlando in Game 1 which makes Lakers an automatic favorite. The NBA Finals is a whole different monster than the Western Conference playoff bracket. Pressure that the Magic never knew was possible will be felt. The Lakers have been there and lost and will be fighting against feeling that anguish again. Trust me I have lost in the Championships at the college level. It is a feeling you don't ever want to feel again unfortunately I was a senior, but my junior-freshman classmates on the team that year got their again the next year and won it. You fail over and over again in life to learn how to succeed. I think the Lakers have learned how to succeed and win Game 1 by 10.
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                                        • HoulihansTX
                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                          • 02-12-09
                                          • 30566

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Ralphie1412
                                          Houlihans so which is it over or under?

                                          He Feels strongly both ways.
                                          I know I made myself look foolish in the other thread by posting my thoughts on both sides of the play. I just researched the play more thoroughly, by the time I made my last statement. But I'm sticking to my latter statement 206Under

                                          I do deserve the ridicule though. But If I was betting on how many times you hate on this forum I would bet OVER(Whatever). And I would advise others to go all-in.
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                                          • BCaldwell32
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 12-13-08
                                            • 1027

                                            #22
                                            If lakers win, it would only be # 15
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                                            • lakerboy
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 04-02-09
                                              • 94379

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by BCaldwell32
                                              If lakers win, it would only be # 15

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                                              • DeeWizzle
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 03-08-09
                                                • 3316

                                                #24
                                                Pav's got to be one of the biggest Laker fans ever.
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