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  • Chance Harper
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 07-20-07
    • 788

    #1
    Celtics face Magic and Dwight Howard without Kevin Garnett
    Celtics face Magic and Dwight Howard without Kevin Garnett

    Will home-court advantage and the play of Glen Davis be enough to help the Boston Celtics against Dwight Howard & the Orlando Magic in this series?


    You call that an entrance?



    We fully expected the Boston Celtics and Orlando Magic to make it here. But neither team is going into the Eastern Conference Semifinals with fanfare and rose petals. The defending champion Celtics needed seven games and seven overtimes to beat the Chicago Bulls, and it was a saw-off against the betting odds at 3-3-1 ATS. The Magic split the first two games of their series against the Philadelphia 76ers at 0-4 ATS before finding another gear and putting Philly away in six.

    The Celtics are getting the benefit of the doubt as -140 favorites to win this series, but only as 2½-point favorites to win Monday’s opener at the Garden (8:00 p.m. Eastern, TNT). That suggests the betting public believes home-court advantage will be the decisive factor for Boston. Perhaps it will, but each team has won in the other’s building this year:
    • Dec. 1, 2008: Orlando 88 at Boston 107 (Celtics -8½)
    • Jan. 22, 2009: Boston 90 at Orlando 80 (Celtics +4½)
    • Mar. 8, 2009: Orlando 86 at Boston 79 (Magic +2½)
    • Mar. 25, 2009: Boston 82 at Orlando 84 (Celtics +3½)

    The two March games deserve added attention, not only for being relatively recent, but also for the status of Kevin Garnett and his strained knee. Garnett wasn’t on the floor (neither was Rajon Rondo) during the lone Orlando payday, and KG played just 16:31 in the last game on the list before eventually being shut down for the year. The Magic had their full complement on the court, or at least close to full with midseason acquisition Rafer Alston at the point subbing for the injured Jameer Nelson.

    Orlando won’t have that luxury on Monday night. The Orlando Sentinel reports that shooting guard Courtney Lee will not play after taking an accidental Dwight Howard elbow to the nose in Game 5 against Philadelphia. Lee had sinus surgery on Thursday and will have to wear a protective mask once he returns, which might not be until Friday’s Game 3 back at the O-Rena. Lee didn’t travel with the team to Boston; according to coach Stan Van Gundy, it would be a “bonus” if Lee plays at all this round.

    Shooting guard isn’t a new area of concern for the Magic. Lee won the starting job this year as a rookie and developed as the season progressed; his 14.1 PER in five games against Philadelphia is close to the indexed NBA average of 15 and a marked improvement over both Game 6 starter J.J. Redick (12.4 PER) and Mickael Pietrus (5.0 PER). Orlando is hardly doomed if Redick has to start again – the former Dukie went 5-of-7 from downtown for all his 15 points as the Magic dusted off the Sixers in Game 6. But it’s a demerit against Orlando that is going mostly unnoticed.

    The focus for this series is almost entirely in the frontcourt. The No. 8-seed Bulls and their beefy frontline were able to hang with the C’s minus their top two power forwards, Garnett and Leon Powe. Now Boston has to contend with Howard, who supplanted Garnett as the Defensive Player of the Year with 13.9 rebounds (9.7 on defense), 2.9 blocks and 1.0 steals per 36 minutes. When Howard isn’t banging inside, Rashard Lewis is drifting back behind the arc and hitting 39.7 percent of his trey attempts. Howard and Lewis are the top two scorers on the Magic roster; Chicago’s offense was generated from the backcourt, where it first had to deal with Rondo’s blanket coverage.

    How often can Orlando put it all together on Boston’s court? The Magic were one of the best road teams during the regular season at 27-14 SU and 26-14-1 ATS. The Celtics were 35-6 SU and 21-20 ATS at the Garden with a very interesting split against the total: The over was 26-14-1 at home and 15-26 on the road. Monday’s total is 188½ points. Boston’s ability to push the score in front of the home fans should be tested enough by Howard to make the Magic a value pick in this series at +120.
  • Casperwaits
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 08-25-06
    • 5042

    #2
    I think when you live and die by one player like the Magic does, it puts you at a definative disadvantage against a team like the Celtics. While everybody is talking about the Perkins/Howard matchup down low, I look at the bench play of both teams and feel the Celtics bench will prove a huge asset in this series. If House and Scalabrine could log in some EFFECTIVE minutes this series, the Celtics could take this series in 5. Hell, imagine if Marbury shows up?
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    • jasont
      SBR MVP
      • 02-24-08
      • 1227

      #3
      Originally posted by Casperwaits
      I think when you live and die by one player like the Magic does, it puts you at a definative disadvantage against a team like the Celtics. While everybody is talking about the Perkins/Howard matchup down low, I look at the bench play of both teams and feel the Celtics bench will prove a huge asset in this series. If House and Scalabrine could log in some EFFECTIVE minutes this series, the Celtics could take this series in 5. Hell, imagine if Marbury shows up?
      They arent any more dependent on Dwight Howard than the Celtics are on Pierce. The benches are a wash. Magic in 6.
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      • pavyracer
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 04-12-07
        • 82839

        #4
        Howard, Lewis, Turkoglu will be a nightmare to guard. These are three of the quickest front three over 6'-6" playing in the same NBA team. Celtics are outmatched and Rivers will be outcoached in this series by Ron Jeremy.
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        • BatemanPatrickl
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 06-21-07
          • 18772

          #5
          Originally posted by Casperwaits
          I think when you live and die by one player like the Magic does, it puts you at a definative disadvantage against a team like the Celtics. While everybody is talking about the Perkins/Howard matchup down low, I look at the bench play of both teams and feel the Celtics bench will prove a huge asset in this series. If House and Scalabrine could log in some EFFECTIVE minutes this series, the Celtics could take this series in 5. Hell, imagine if Marbury shows up?
          If Marbury shows up I will stop posting at SBR. When most of your big men are out and you rely on Perkins and Davis you're in trouble. May want to look at this game as a gambler not a Boston fan.
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          • Tsoprano
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 04-14-08
            • 26374

            #6
            Marbury was a solid addition so far and stepped up big time when Rondo had to sit out.
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            • BatemanPatrickl
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 06-21-07
              • 18772

              #7
              Originally posted by Tsoprano
              Marbury was a solid addition so far and stepped up big time when Rondo had to sit out.
              Yeah those shots that barely touch the rim have been HUGE
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              • Tsoprano
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 04-14-08
                • 26374

                #8
                He was able to handle the ball without creating turnovers, if he missed shots...so what? His purpose is to give their star point guard rest and be able to maintain the lead they have.

                And that is what they did.

                The only complete bum in this series was Mikki Moore, the rest all did their part to sneak by the Bulls in a very tough 7 game series.
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                • BeatTheJerk
                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                  • 08-19-07
                  • 31794

                  #9
                  Hey T did you bet Boston every game last series ?
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                  • BeatTheJerk
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 08-19-07
                    • 31794

                    #10
                    I kinda have to agree with you on gm 1 here with Boston , I look for Orlando coming back in gm 2 to even things up going back to O town, but 30 + lol I know that's a joke T ...............
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                    • una13ombr
                      SBR High Roller
                      • 04-15-09
                      • 229

                      #11
                      are u shittin me ...celtics bench is a complete JOKE

                      marbury is the biggest pussy i have ever seen..not only was he NOT SOLID..but he was the worst acusation in the world for boston..i bet the special kids at the Y.M.C.A could hoop that douche. He airballed every shot and played with ****in jitters or something..

                      and as for eddie house can you say STREAKY as ****...if hes on hes on but its very rare when hes on..maybe 1 game out of the whole series.

                      miki moore- yikes nuff said

                      scal aka will ferrel with firecrotch hair - what he make like 2 3's whole series...that is a good bench....

                      celtics bench is WEAK
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                      • BatemanPatrickl
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 06-21-07
                        • 18772

                        #12
                        Originally posted by BeatTheJerk
                        Hey T did you bet Boston every game last series ?
                        You know he did
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                        • Tsoprano
                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                          • 04-14-08
                          • 26374

                          #13
                          Originally posted by BatemanPatrickl
                          You know he did
                          I did, but for small amounts as an entertainment factor.
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                          • smoke a bowl
                            SBR MVP
                            • 02-09-09
                            • 2776

                            #14
                            Celtics win this series easily. 5 or 6 games tops. The Magic were in trouble before the loss of Lee but now w/o Lee they are in serious trouble. Boston too nasty.
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                            • BeatTheJerk
                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                              • 08-19-07
                              • 31794

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Tsoprano
                              I did, but for small amounts as an entertainment factor.
                              what about tonight though ? entertainment factor or do you feel it's a smart play , I'm waiting for it to become even money as it may become on ML i'll just sit back and see .................
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                              • Casperwaits
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 08-25-06
                                • 5042

                                #16
                                I do not believe Pierce and Howard are equal in terms of what they bring to their respected teams. The Celtics have more weapons than the Magic, and in regards to looking at this series form a gambler perspective, I am. I also post plays on here and I gamble. Something another person whose name rhymes with Hateman does not do.
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                                • una13ombr
                                  SBR High Roller
                                  • 04-15-09
                                  • 229

                                  #17
                                  how do the celtics have more weapons than magic??

                                  KG IS out bro....wake up that leaves 3 good players rondo/allen/pierce

                                  magic - hedo/lewis/howard

                                  not more weapons at all in my eyes
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                                  • BatemanPatrickl
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 06-21-07
                                    • 18772

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Casperwaits
                                    I do not believe Pierce and Howard are equal in terms of what they bring to their respected teams. The Celtics have more weapons than the Magic, and in regards to looking at this series form a gambler perspective, I am. I also post plays on here and I gamble. Something another person whose name rhymes with Hateman does not do.
                                    You are oh so creative. Hateman? How do you do it?

                                    Name the weapons the Celtics have besides Pierce, Rondo and Allen (if he shows up)?
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                                    • una13ombr
                                      SBR High Roller
                                      • 04-15-09
                                      • 229

                                      #19
                                      exactly celtics dont have shit besides 3 weapons whcih is same as orlando..except howard ownin the SHIT out of terrible kendrick perkins who will have 5 fouls by halftime..and babydavis jesus
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                                      • Casperwaits
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 08-25-06
                                        • 5042

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by una13ombr
                                        how do the celtics have more weapons than magic??

                                        KG IS out bro....wake up that leaves 3 good players rondo/allen/pierce

                                        magic - hedo/lewis/howard

                                        not more weapons at all in my eyes
                                        The last time I checked Big Baby has been playing quite well and Perkins has been a rebounding machine. Granted, he fouls quite a bit, but if stays out of foul trouble he is a monster on the boards.
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                                        • BatemanPatrickl
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 06-21-07
                                          • 18772

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Casperwaits
                                          The last time I checked Big Baby has been playing quite well and Perkins has been a rebounding machine. Granted, he fouls quite a bit, but if stays out of foul trouble he is a monster on the boards.
                                          Perkins is a liability every time he is on the court; Davis has been playing better but you can't count on him.

                                          Rivers will get outcoached.
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                                          • Tsoprano
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                                            • 04-14-08
                                            • 26374

                                            #22
                                            Rivers will get out coached by Gundy? LOL

                                            Perkins is a liabilty every time he is on the court? LOLOLOLOL

                                            Bateman, are you high brotha? I think so
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                                            • Casperwaits
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 08-25-06
                                              • 5042

                                              #23
                                              Rivers, although not a great coach is a hell of a lot better than Gundy. Gundy is a joke. I am going to wait for Game One to finish before I post on this topic again.
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                                              • Vincepcion
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 02-07-09
                                                • 834

                                                #24
                                                Perkins is the best big that Boston has (with KG out), wouldnt call him a liability
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                                                • una13ombr
                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                  • 04-15-09
                                                  • 229

                                                  #25
                                                  rivers can only do so much...KG brought fire and toughness to that team that is now gone

                                                  that shit was very appearnt in the celtics/chicago series

                                                  perkins maybe can get some boards but its gonna be hard with howard on his shit..and ya perkins played good but he got easy looks over a TERRIBLE brad miller...with howard cloggin shit up those shots wont be nearly as easy.

                                                  im bein relalisitc..ur being biased...
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                                                  • Tsoprano
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                                                    • 04-14-08
                                                    • 26374

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Vincepcion
                                                    Perkins is the best big that Boston has (with KG out), wouldnt call him a liability
                                                    agreed

                                                    Take whatever Bateman says lightly, he is just trying to stir Casper and I up with his ridiculous remarks towards the Celtics.
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                                                    • ATB515
                                                      Restricted User
                                                      • 01-08-09
                                                      • 734

                                                      #27
                                                      I took Boston on the ML for tonight. We'll see.
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                                                      • smoke a bowl
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 02-09-09
                                                        • 2776

                                                        #28
                                                        Actually Van Gundy is the only thing that scares me about the Celtic wagers I will make. Anybody that can coach that miserable Heat team to an NBA title is a good coach in my book. Shaq was ****ing horrible by then just like he is now. Say what you want but Dallas was light years better than that heat team talent wise and the Heat still won.
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                                                        • una13ombr
                                                          SBR High Roller
                                                          • 04-15-09
                                                          • 229

                                                          #29
                                                          dude boston struggeled with chicago ...how the **** they gonna beat orlando

                                                          no kg = no advance out of 2nd round

                                                          LOCK
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                                                          • Casperwaits
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 08-25-06
                                                            • 5042

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by una13ombr
                                                            rivers can only do so much...KG brought fire and toughness to that team that is now gone

                                                            that shit was very appearnt in the celtics/chicago series

                                                            perkins maybe can get some boards but its gonna be hard with howard on his shit..and ya perkins played good but he got easy looks over a TERRIBLE brad miller...with howard cloggin shit up those shots wont be nearly as easy.

                                                            im bein relalisitc..ur being biased...

                                                            I may be a Celtic fan, but I am not biased. Contrary to what you might think, I have posted threads on here when I bet AGAINST the Celtics. As far as fire missing from the Celtics, I am not sure what series you were watching, but the Celtics must have had something burning to win that epic series. Once again, Game One is tonight, and when the game is over, we will see who is jawing
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                                                            • smoke a bowl
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 02-09-09
                                                              • 2776

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by una13ombr
                                                              dude boston struggeled with chicago ...how the **** they gonna beat orlando

                                                              no kg = no advance out of 2nd round

                                                              LOCK
                                                              Orlando sucks is the 1st answer that comes to mind.
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                                                              • sweetjones55
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 04-07-09
                                                                • 5257

                                                                #32
                                                                Get ready for 3 pointers in this game. Reddick, Alston, Lewis and Turkoglu playing around a double-teamed Howard. It is going to rain.
                                                                Scared money don't make money

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                                                                • BatemanPatrickl
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 06-21-07
                                                                  • 18772

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Tsoprano
                                                                  agreed

                                                                  Take whatever Bateman says lightly, he is just trying to stir Casper and I up with his ridiculous remarks towards the Celtics.
                                                                  Tony you have to be the biggest square on the board. A Yankees fan who likes the Celtics and BETS on his favorite team. You know nothing about sports and even less about gambling.

                                                                  FFS you BOOKED bets and could not even collect. Do us a favor and stop posting.

                                                                  "In a 2009 poll conducted by Sports Illustrated, Perkins was chosen by his peers as "The player who thinks he's a lot better than he really is."
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                                                                  • una13ombr
                                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                                    • 04-15-09
                                                                    • 229

                                                                    #34
                                                                    LOL epic series vs the bulls.... AHHHHHHHH AHHAHAHAHAHHHAH
                                                                    weak shit dude

                                                                    anyone that stuggled down low agaisnt noah and brad miller is not gonna win the championship.. the END

                                                                    they are DONE DONE DONE

                                                                    kg was the fire..adn that shit is OUT SON! orlando doesnt have to be amazing to beat boston in a 7 game series...they gonna win thats all im saying
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                                                                    • smoke a bowl
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 02-09-09
                                                                      • 2776

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by sweetjones55
                                                                      Get ready for 3 pointers in this game. Reddick, Alston, Lewis and Turkoglu playing around a double-teamed Howard. It is going to rain.
                                                                      Yeah cause the Celtics suck at rotating on defense. Give me a break. All you Orlando backers please keep in mind that in crunch times, Hedo ****ing Turkoglu is your go to player. Good luck with that.
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