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  • EaglesPhan36
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 12-06-06
    • 71662

    #1
    Prop Shop: Conference Semifinals
    Figured I would stop cluttering the NBA section with a couple posts each day and just go with one thread. Feel free to add your own props, discuss, etc. Remember, we're all in this to win! So let's be constructive.


    Play #1: Ray Allen OVER 18.5 Points (-115)
    The first and foremost reason to like this, JJ Redick is going to draw the starting assignment likely as the Magic shooting guard again. Redick just is not athletic enough to stay with Allen and should also offer Allen post-up opportunities if he wants.

    Here's Allen's numbers against the Magic in the regular season.

    G1: 21 pts, 8/13 FGs, 3/6 3s, 2/2 FTs
    G2: 12 pts, 6/12 FGs, 0/2 3s, 0/0 FTs
    G3: 32 pts, 12/25 FGs, 1/5 3s, 7/7 FTs
    G4: 16 pts, 6/14 FGs, 2/7 3s, 2/2 FGs

    While the point totals weren't always impressive, the shooting percentage obviously was. 32/64 for 50%. His 3 pt. shooting was not great, 6/20 for 30%. I think you have to take into consideration though that all these performances were pre-KG being done for the year. The 32 point game came without KG & Rondo. And the last game was one of the ones right before KG shut it down, so the flow was still not as it is now offensively for Boston.

    To me, Boston has become a much more loose and free firing offense without KG there for that dump down post presence. That should mean a continuation of the form we saw in Round 1 vs. Chicago where the 3 ball was a weapon after Game 1. Orlando is a better defensive squad than Chicago, but the match-up here is a good one to start. Pietrus will probably get some looks on D vs. Allen as well, but even so, I think it favors Allen. So long as Redick starts, I expect the Cs to go to Allen early and even if it's Pietrus playing more, I wouldn't be surprised if they make a concerted effort to get their outside game going to perhaps loosen it up inside against Howard as much as they can (probably not much).

    Since this is Game 1 and you don't have a specific road map to follow, I go with one unit plays on anything for Game 1s.
  • csimmalavong
    SBR MVP
    • 08-22-08
    • 1039

    #2
    i think pietrus will play more, well he should..

    hes a decent defender, either way i like that bet
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    • The_Kid
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 02-09-08
      • 5049

      #3
      Good luck, EP. Do you mind if I post my prop bets in this thread too?
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      • DaProfessor23
        SBR MVP
        • 12-07-08
        • 1180

        #4
        here are my picks people

        --Ray allen over 18.5 risking half a unit

        --R. Allen over 18.5 /rashard lewis points + rebounds over 23.5 /D.Howard over 21.5 total points. risking .5 unit to win 2units [PARLAY ]

        --Rashard lewis OveR 23.5 points + rebounds

        Good Luck everyone!!! and im loving that rashard lewis over 23.5 points + rebounds .
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        • EaglesPhan36
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 12-06-06
          • 71662

          #5
          Originally posted by The_Kid
          Good luck, EP. Do you mind if I post my prop bets in this thread too?
          Go for it. I kind of meant this to be a props thread for everyone. So it'd be cool to have everyone posting up in one spot.

          I like that Rashard Lewis one. No way Davis can match up with him, it's just a matter of can Lewis make his shots consistently. Wouldn't be surprised if Tony Allen sees more time this series on him.
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          • The_Kid
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 02-09-08
            • 5049

            #6
            Dwight Howard -13.5 Points + Rebounds vs Kendrick Perkins

            Howard will have his way in this series. Even though Howard kind of struggled vs the Celtics in the regular season, this was with Garnett in the lineup. He actually only covered this line twice out of four games in the regular season but that was when Garnett was healthy. KG is the Celtics best defender and he is not playing. Perkins, Davis, and Scalabrine do not come close to what Garnett provides on the defensive end. Perkins will be in foul trouble all the time and since the Celtics are already short on big men to begin with, that could be a big problem. Perkins won't be able to do anything on the offensive end because Howard will swat his weak offensive moves to the third row. Howard will be able to do whatever he wants offensively and defensively. The Celtics will not be able to contain him.
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            • DaProfessor23
              SBR MVP
              • 12-07-08
              • 1180

              #7
              Also i just dumped 3 units on kobe bryant -150 . him having -.05 more assist then rebounds!!
              i think this is a absolute lock . he will have artest and battier all over his tonight and probly be double teamed alot . he will have alot of assist .

              --My lock of the day lmfao . Kobe Bryant better come thru tonight.

              -- Im ready to eat this one up
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              • laxdjock
                SBR MVP
                • 09-15-07
                • 4074

                #8
                I'm really liking that Ray Allen o18.5 pts prop....I'm going to do a bit of stat crunching, but it looks nice at first glance.
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                • laxdjock
                  SBR MVP
                  • 09-15-07
                  • 4074

                  #9
                  How about Yao u 17.5 -105? His ankle is bothering him, and I don't see him really asserting himself inside.

                  Thoughts?
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                  • The_Kid
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 02-09-08
                    • 5049

                    #10
                    Originally posted by laxdjock
                    How about Yao u 17.5 -105? His ankle is bothering him, and I don't see him really asserting himself inside.

                    Thoughts?
                    If Yao can't move, he can't be effective. He won't be able to establish any post position on Bynum. I'd go UNDER too. I can see Landry being more effective because the Lakers always have problems with smaller, quicker forwards. If Yao's injury really bothers him, Scola and Landry will probably get the bulk of the minutes and touches.
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                    • shhhhh22
                      SBR MVP
                      • 10-30-08
                      • 2357

                      #11
                      Have 2 plays tonight.... I won't touch largest lead of game or 3PTS props on first games of series... gotta see how they play game 1 first...

                      Alston vs Rondo - most points+assists made by Rajon Rondo -6½ pts+assists -110 (Rondo is clearly the better PG in this situation, he's been on fire passing the ball lately and still manages to get is fair share of points.)

                      Total assists+rebounds made by Kobe Bryant OVER 10.5 assists+rebounds
                      -115
                      (He's coming off quite a long rest, he's gonna be energized and he's been so much better at sharing the ball in general, it'll be important for him to get his teammates involved)

                      Best of luck to all.
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                      • laxdjock
                        SBR MVP
                        • 09-15-07
                        • 4074

                        #12
                        I'm going to see how my 1H bets go before putting anything on the Yao under. I put a unit on the Allen o18.5, thanks for the tip.
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                        • DaProfessor23
                          SBR MVP
                          • 12-07-08
                          • 1180

                          #13
                          allen is off to a really slow start .. i hope he starts to do better
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                          • laxdjock
                            SBR MVP
                            • 09-15-07
                            • 4074

                            #14
                            Yeah....having Marbury heave up shots isn't going to help (though I think he is 4-6 thus far). I'm hoping he can get 8 by half to give us a shot.
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                            • EaglesPhan36
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 12-06-06
                              • 71662

                              #15
                              Celts don't have a great offensive flow. Gonna be real hard to cash any prop offensively for them tonight. Allen looks a little hesitant to me. Hopefully at the half, they adjust to the doubles on the pick 'n roll with him and find someway to get him the rock. Not looking great right now & again why I would stick to one unit bets in this early games of the series since it's hard to read it going into the 1st couple games.
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                              • EaglesPhan36
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 12-06-06
                                • 71662

                                #16
                                Defintitely took a couple lumps in Game 1s. Not gonna do any props for Lakers-Rockets tonight or Cavs-Hawks. Will however begin looking to Game 2s to find those edges and get back to making that cash. Will be looking hard at the 3 point prop in this Magic-Celts series. Think it was 14.5 tonight, easily passed that with 17. If it stays in that neighborhood, probably bang the over.
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                                • The_Kid
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 02-09-08
                                  • 5049

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by EaglesPhan36
                                  Will be looking hard at the 3 point prop in this Magic-Celts series. Think it was 14.5 tonight, easily passed that with 17. If it stays in that neighborhood, probably bang the over.
                                  I was looking at that one too before the game but couldn't pull the trigger after watching the Nuggets/Mavericks game. It was probably best just watching this Game 1 anyway. There will be plenty more props to play so there's no need to push buttons and just wager on something just because.

                                  Originally posted by The_Kid
                                  Dwight Howard -13.5 Points + Rebounds vs Kendrick Perkins
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                                  • EaglesPhan36
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 12-06-06
                                    • 71662

                                    #18
                                    Truer words never were spoken. That's why I lost that Billups prop on Sunday. Made a play to make a play. Not smart on my account. What sucks is Ray Allen will probably have at least 20 in Game 2 and I bet he won't be a prop at my book. Nice job with Superman.
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                                    • The_Kid
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 02-09-08
                                      • 5049

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by EaglesPhan36
                                      Truer words never were spoken. That's why I lost that Billups prop on Sunday. Made a play to make a play. Not smart on my account. What sucks is Ray Allen will probably have at least 20 in Game 2 and I bet he won't be a prop at my book. Nice job with Superman.
                                      You're sharp with these props, EP. You'll get'em next time.

                                      Still a lot of playoff basketball left too.
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                                      • shhhhh22
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 10-30-08
                                        • 2357

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by shhhhh22
                                        Have 2 plays tonight.... I won't touch largest lead of game or 3PTS props on first games of series... gotta see how they play game 1 first...

                                        Alston vs Rondo - most points+assists made by Rajon Rondo -6½ pts+assists -110 (Rondo is clearly the better PG in this situation, he's been on fire passing the ball lately and still manages to get is fair share of points.)

                                        Total assists+rebounds made by Kobe Bryant OVER 10.5 assists+rebounds
                                        -115
                                        (He's coming off quite a long rest, he's gonna be energized and he's been so much better at sharing the ball in general, it'll be important for him to get his teammates involved)

                                        Best of luck to all.
                                        Alston vs Rondo - most points+assists made by Rajon Rondo -6½ pts+assists -110 WINNER


                                        Total assists+rebounds made by Kobe Bryant OVER 10.5 assists+rebounds -115 WINNER


                                        CASH IT!!

                                        2 for 2 on Props tonight, shoulda just stayed on those. That damn Lakers game killed me tonight.



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                                        • EaglesPhan36
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 12-06-06
                                          • 71662

                                          #21
                                          Game 2: Denver-Dallas
                                          (Carmelo Anthony OVER 28.5 Total Points/Rebounds)
                                          'Melo nearly beat this number in Game 1 with 23 points & 5 rebounds despite only playing 29 minutes due to foul trouble. He surpassed these totals in the three regular season meetings that he played against Dallas. 28/8, 23/8, 43/11. Remember, once he got going in the New Orleans series, his lowest point total was 22 in Game 2. From there on out, it was 25, 26 & 34. 'Melo is fully capable of getting most of this on points alone. The key element for him I think is to continue to go to the hole and get to the free throw line. He's been to the line at least 7 times now in 5 straight post-season games and at least 6 times in 5 of the Nuggets' 6 post-season games in 2009. Denver also helped out 'Melo by switching him onto Jason Kidd defensively at times, letting Dohntay Jones take Josh Howard. I wouldn't be surprised to see a little more of this if Anthony gets into any foul difficulty again or just because it might be better defensive to have Jones on Howard. Kidd does not have the blazing speed to drive past 'Melo at this stage of his career and the Nuggets will settle for letting Kidd have outside jumpers by sagging Anthony off of him. That'd only help keep Melo on the court. Obviously, the best thing here as well would be for Dallas to stay in the game as long as possible!

                                          -130 at my book. Wouldn't be shocked if it got up to 29 by game time.
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                                          • NBA Hero
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 12-05-08
                                            • 1886

                                            #22
                                            i think whatever the props for dirk is better. he will assert himself early and thru out getting despearte to win one cause howard wont be 100%. and they cant rely on terry coz he will be covered. unlike dirk he will have free throws and three point lane to himself.melo can be eratic
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                                            • shhhhh22
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 10-30-08
                                              • 2357

                                              #23
                                              Like the pick Eagles, my book doesn't have that prop... they do have Anthony total assists/rebs over 11.5 which is very tempting. might look a little closer at that... but for now my only prop of the night...

                                              Total assists + rebounds made by LeBron James OVER 16 -115 (Atlanta has no one to stop Lebron, he's going to have his run of the court, just like in the Detroit series)

                                              Best of luck to all
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                                              • EaglesPhan36
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 12-06-06
                                                • 71662

                                                #24
                                                Only thing that would scare me about that Lebron prop is if the Hawks get their asses handed to them and it turns into a blowout. This is why I didn't want to touch any more Game 1s. It's really difficult to gauge the mind-set of these teams.
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                                                • shhhhh22
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 10-30-08
                                                  • 2357

                                                  #25
                                                  Valid point to be sure... Kobe worked for me yesterday... gonna ride the superstars! lol. The only real risk here, is if Lebron is feeling it and just goes on a scoring frenzy, then he won't pass at all, but I don't really see that happening, he is a true team player.
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                                                  • The_Kid
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 02-09-08
                                                    • 5049

                                                    #26
                                                    No time for a write up today.

                                                    Dirk Nowitzki OVER 11.5 Rebounds + Assists

                                                    Good luck today, gentlemen.
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                                                    • t-bone
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 03-18-08
                                                      • 3732

                                                      #27
                                                      Hey guys, Joe Johnson Over 1.5 3 pointers @ +140.......what the hell am I missing here?
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                                                      • t-bone
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 03-18-08
                                                        • 3732

                                                        #28
                                                        Took it @ +130 for 2 units.......people are jumping on it big
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                                                        • Wilforth
                                                          Restricted User
                                                          • 05-10-08
                                                          • 16309

                                                          #29
                                                          How many does he average?
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                                                          • t-bone
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 03-18-08
                                                            • 3732

                                                            #30
                                                            2 on the year, they aren't scoring inside on the cavs
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                                                            • t-bone
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 03-18-08
                                                              • 3732

                                                              #31
                                                              Over 5 attempts per game also
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                                                              • sweetjones55
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                                                                • 04-07-09
                                                                • 5257

                                                                #32
                                                                That Joe Johnson prop looks terrible if you look at his last 9 games. Only one game where he he's hit 2+ three pointers in the last 9 and that was against the Heat in that game 7 route.
                                                                Scared money don't make money

                                                                182-120-6 (60.26%) Final Total NBA Record over 308 plays
                                                                37-20-1 (65%) Record for the 2010 NBA PLAYOFFS
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                                                                • t-bone
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 03-18-08
                                                                  • 3732

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Valid point jones but based on his averages and the value @ +130......I'll take it and pray!
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                                                                  • The_Kid
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 02-09-08
                                                                    • 5049

                                                                    #34
                                                                    I'm adding one more prop for tonight's game.

                                                                    Nene Hilario -6.5 Points + Rebounds vs Erick Dampier


                                                                    Good luck tonight, fellas!
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                                                                    • EaglesPhan36
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 12-06-06
                                                                      • 71662

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Jason Terry OVER 17.5 Points
                                                                      Josh Howard's ankles are problematic. Someone has to score besides Dirk. He's the most likely suspect. He'll need 15-20 shots to hit it, but I like it for half the normal wager size (half unit).
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