Craptors have lost 8 straight to the Bulls

SpreadSniper · 03-14-16, 06:09 PM

no... Bulls may cover, but Raps aint losing

gojetsgomoxies · 03-14-16, 06:18 PM

Yup, I had a thread on this last time they played.... Simple cover

Raptos have had massive problems with since eddy curry and tyson chandler days

Raptors even lose when we had big lead and/oe we outplay them like crazy

SpreadSniper · 03-14-16, 06:22 PM

Originally posted by gojetsgomoxies

Yup, I had a thread on this last time they played.... Simple cover

Raptos have had massive problems with since eddy curry and tyson chandler days

Raptors even lose when we had big lead and/oe we outplay them like crazy

Casey will be stressing a win for this game... Raps will be treating this as if it was a playoff game, even w/o all dem Bulls players, they will not be taking this one light.

MoMoneyMoVaughn · 03-14-16, 06:29 PM

Butler to return.

Could be trouble for raps.

GoBlue77 · 03-14-16, 06:32 PM

Butler will score 81 like Kobe and win tonight

gojetsgomoxies · 03-14-16, 06:54 PM

Originally posted by SpreadSniper

Casey will be stressing a win for this game... Raps will be treating this as if it was a playoff game, even w/o all dem Bulls players, they will not be taking this one light.

That's been true for those 8 straight losses too (I am trusting OP on that stat)

Definitely raptor players and Casey care about this a lot but it's negatively in their heads too

GoBlue77 · 03-14-16, 07:30 PM

LMAO CRAPPPPPP tors

MoMoneyMoVaughn · 03-14-16, 07:31 PM

Refs man.... good god 2 terrible calls back to back

GoBlue77 · 03-14-16, 07:31 PM

See this in college, don't see it often in the NBA: The Raptors just huddled up as a group at halfcourt and tried to collect themselves.

SpreadSniper · 03-14-16, 07:36 PM

Originally posted by GoBlue77

See this in college, don't see it often in the NBA: The Raptors just huddled up as a group at halfcourt and tried to collect themselves.

Casey, Coach of the Year.... Bitch

GoBlue77 · 03-14-16, 08:31 PM

GARBAGE team

GoBlue77 · 03-14-16, 09:02 PM

lmao, not surprised/ craptors will crap

louielouie · 03-14-16, 09:02 PM

And this is the most favored team to win the east beyond the Cavs -- fade that goblue77 -- cavs to win the east is the EASIEST MONEY anyone could ever make -- yet here you are on the other side rooting for +700 and +2500 celtics and raptor babies -- so confused you dummy

intermission · 03-14-16, 09:04 PM

lmao didnt know a bull is stronger than a dinosaur

louielouie · 03-14-16, 09:04 PM

Or maybe the Heat or Hornets stand a chance -- right? Meanwhile the Cavs are slowly playing better and better and better. What will you do once they make the finals (the king for his 7th straight year) healthy? Will you cry when they win it all? Good luck with your Duke futures.

SpreadSniper · 03-14-16, 09:05 PM

faaaaackkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

Im your bitch... do with me as you will

MoMoneyMoVaughn · 03-14-16, 09:05 PM

Originally posted by louielouie

Or maybe the Heat or Hornets stand a chance -- right? Meanwhile the Cavs are slowly playing better and better and better. What will you do once they make the finals (the king for his 7th straight year) healthy? Will you cry when they win it all? Good luck with your Duke futures.

Louie I don't think you have ever made a post that wasn't about the Cav's being good or the Warriors being bad.

Diversify your bonds, pal.

MoMoneyMoVaughn · 03-14-16, 09:05 PM

NJsportsGuy732 · 03-14-16, 09:07 PM

Heat are playing better and Bosh returned to the Miami bench tonight.

louielouie · 03-14-16, 09:15 PM

MoMoney -- good idea -- I'll do some hedging come playoffs -- just looked at the investments and they are both way to heavy in different directions -- Spurs will be a large play come playoffs

Killer2121 · 03-14-16, 09:18 PM

This is why the Raptors or any Toronto team will not get far. Too much hype over an above average team. Canadians love to get hyped for the smallest things.

NardVa · 03-14-16, 09:19 PM

Bulls own the Raptors even when they are missing players.

PorkChop · 03-14-16, 09:20 PM

Originally posted by Killer2121

This is why the Raptors or any Toronto team will not get far. Too much hype over an above average team. Canadians love to get hyped for the smallest things.

They'll still meet Cavs in East Finals. (Which isn't saying much). But yes, they will never be a championship team. In the west they be sitting as a 9 seed and would be nothing more than average

PorkChop · 03-14-16, 09:20 PM

Losing to Bulls 4 times in one season is such a strange thing.

Their ML was +485 tonight wow

louielouie · 03-14-16, 09:25 PM

There is not a team in the East who could even make the playoffs in the west -- except for the Cavs who would be a 3 seed -- that is just another reason they have so much value -- anyhow like a broken record I have offered the forum this info and all the duke blue warrior bandwagon babies can't stand it -- so be it -- sorry for those who do not like winning money

gojetsgomoxies · 03-14-16, 09:35 PM

i agree with the raptors having huge trouble with bulls..... UNLIKE SOME OTHERS ON THIS THREAD, i have actually mentioned it before the last 2 games against the bulls, not afterwards.......

i also agree raptors probably have trouble in playoffs again this year..... i'm thinking lowry and DD games gets shut down in playoffs. tougher D, fewer foul calls etc....

HOWEVER, raptors rate as the 3rd best team in the league vs. top 5 and 4th best team vs. top 10 teams... so let's not call their success some east-west illusion...... perhaps call it regular season being soft in general.

raptors had the ball with a chance to win last 10 seconds in GSW. referee calls O foul. in toronto, they outplayed GSW. just missed some FT's down the stretch..... they play well against top teams in RS.

hard to argue how they wouldn't make playoffs in west.... top west teams are great, but huge dropoffs in that conference unlike most of the last 15 years.

MoMoneyMoVaughn · 03-14-16, 10:09 PM

Originally posted by Killer2121

This is why the Raptors or any Toronto team will not get far. Too much hype over an above average team. Canadians love to get hyped for the smallest things.

We are a simple people.

Killer2121 · 03-14-16, 10:39 PM

Originally posted by MoMoneyMoVaughn

We are a simple people.

Idk. I see it every year in Toronto... Team acquires a couple average players in the summer, does good for a couple months then crash and burn. This has been happening since I can remember (early 2000s).

When a team finally makes the playoffs (Raptors 2014, Jays 2015, TFC 2015) Suddenly Toronto is full of Basketball, soccer and baseball fans. We fill up the bars and stadiums with people who know nothing of the sport and bandwagon. And boy, do I hate bandwagon fans.

I always chuckle to myself when Toronto loses. Does this happen in any other city?

Killer2121 · 03-14-16, 10:42 PM

Originally posted by PorkChop

They'll still meet Cavs in East Finals. (Which isn't saying much). But yes, they will never be a championship team. In the west they be sitting as a 9 seed and would be nothing more than average

We'll never be a championship team because nobody wants to come here. I mean seriously speaking, Toronto is an aging city with average nightlife, aging infrastructure and the climate of Minnesota. Not too many Americans want to spend their NBA season in weather that barely touches 15 degrees Celsius at best.

gojetsgomoxies · 03-14-16, 11:58 PM

Originally posted by Killer2121

This is why the Raptors or any Toronto team will not get far. Too much hype over an above average team. Canadians love to get hyped for the smallest things.

I agree some and disagree some......

Serious raptors fans are pretty depressing. They think this team is a complete regular season mirage. And that Casey is a horrible coach...

More casual Canadian fans, the Canadian and American media are more hyping of raptors.......

As per Canada and Toronto and its teams' chances of winning championships.... I mostly agree.... Players don't to play/live in Canada. Even Canadian hockey players dont seem to want to come back once they've played in USA... Guys like Trevor linden and the sedins are ok, but they a) only played in Canada b) sedins aren't from USA. And it's Vancouver, which is hyped as amazing city (I think San Diego >>>>>>> Vancouver but I digress

Killer2121 · 03-15-16, 12:23 AM

Originally posted by gojetsgomoxies

I agree some and disagree some......

Serious raptors fans are pretty depressing. They think this team is a complete regular season mirage. And that Casey is a horrible coach...

More casual Canadian fans, the Canadian and American media are more hyping of raptors.......

As per Canada and Toronto and its teams' chances of winning championships.... I mostly agree.... Players don't to play/live in Canada. Even Canadian hockey players dont seem to want to come back once they've played in USA... Guys like Trevor linden and the sedins are ok, but they a) only played in Canada b) sedins aren't from USA. And it's Vancouver, which is hyped as amazing city (I think San Diego >>>>>>> Vancouver but I digress

The NHL is worse. People in the north love hockey, but players hate playing here . but then a lot of teams in the US also flop. Seriously, who the hell watches hockey in Florida, Tennessee, California and Arizona?

gojetsgomoxies · 03-15-16, 12:49 AM

i agree hockey is arguably worse..............

as per the NBA, i'm pretty sure that durant, lebron, steph, TDuncan and anthony davis would have been fine playing in canada/toronto for their first contract or two. probably not after that but that should be enough time to win.... the rest of the players are filler to a certain degree beyond your mega-stars... and i think the players love toronto's downtown party culture. great strip joints too (haven't been in 20 years but i think they still would be)

hockey is interesting... i think the real optimal situation is a good spot in the USA (chicago, boston, LA x 2, san jose, even dallas) where they have some interest in hockey.

i actually think hockey players would rather play in arizona where no one cares and they can drive around in convertibles constantly as opposed to toronto which is absolute fish bowl. i'm sure they'd rather there were a few more fans in the arizona seats but it's not that big a deal.

basically edmonton and winnipeg are probably no-go zones for many veterans. i actually loved living in winnipeg but i wasn't making $5MM with a smoking hot socal wife.

montreal, ottawa, calgary can't be easy sells..... vancouver is probably ok.... and toronto i think the city would be fine, but too much of a fish-bowl... vancouver and toronto are pretty complainer-esque too. i have to remind people in vancover "you know you've been in game 7 of the stanley cup finals in recent memory"......

Killer2121 · 03-15-16, 02:23 AM

Yea that's what I meant. It's good for players to play in those southern states, but for us Canadians it really sucks. I remember when USA beat Canada in the 2010 Olympics, nobody cared..

I look at Florida Panthers and Arizona Coyote games and there is hardly anybody there. Extremely embarrassing when even an MLS franchise can fill more seats than sn NHL team.

Also remember when LA won the Stanley cup? That was the most pathetic victory parade I've ever seen. Good for the players but just embarrassing for the sport.

That's why I'll always love Vince carter no matter how badly he treated the Raptors. Without him, we'd have suffered the same fate as the Vancouver grizzlies.

gojetsgomoxies · 03-15-16, 02:59 AM

U think is VC goes to Vancouver, big country to Toronto that everything is reversed...interesting theory, let me think about it... VC vs reeves was general example. I know they weren't same draft

World junior hockey must be ultimate example of a country's obsession vs no other country caring... 99.999% of Americans don't even know it's on....

I agree that raptors have bizarre bandwagon fan base in playoffs... I think those fans in maple leaf square are just repping Toronto/Canada to espn. Sorta uplifting but pathetic at same time. Canada has weird inferiority complex