Originally posted by skyscrapers
Wallco's Chase 110
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Wallco99SBR Hall of Famer
- 01-01-11
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#3816I agree with all of your added observations.👍 1Comment -
Wallco99SBR Hall of Famer
- 01-01-11
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#3817Yes, and the most important thing is knowing when to have the sense to call it quits, and the power to actually do it.Originally posted by GGPLAYER
You both beat me to it. I actually felt this way after last year and told myself I wasn't going to do it this season and/or just start when a series hit B/C bets BUT then a streak of A bets won and I got greedy and impatient. Just too many D bet losses to make this work. I had hopes again after we rebounded from the early D bet losses but these last two put the nail in coffin. To both your points all things do come to can end and the evolution of the league has ruined this sport. The moment they see they can't make play-offs it's tank time so they can win a lottery pick. Cheers gentlemen to a good run and I'll miss this but I miss money more!
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skyscrapersSBR Hall of Famer
- 05-02-11
- 6316
#3818Wallco NBA Chase 110
2025-2026 System To Date: 70-5 (fin. series)
System Profit/Loss: -28.51 Units (fin. series)
Current Open Series: 2
(3/6/26):
#77 Indiana (+9.5) (A) - Loss
(A) 43-34
(B) 16-16
(C) 9-7
(D) 2-5
Losses: WSH (-18.44u), IND (-20.72u), CHI (-22.65u), BKN (-18.44u), IND (-18.26u)
Games for (3/7/26):
#76 Milwaukee (M/L) (B)
#77 Resumes (B) on 3/8/26
Note: The lines I have listed were the current lines at the time of my post and may not reflect the final lines used to determine wins & losses, or line changes later in the day. Get proper line if different than the one I have posted, based on the criteria that I have listed below.
We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-0.5) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from Scoresandodds.com. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on Scoresandodds.com final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day if the lines do change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post. System rules and backtests can be found in posts #96 & #3630.Comment -
skyscrapersSBR Hall of Famer
- 05-02-11
- 6316
#3819The optimist in me is telling me that there is still a slim chance we can get back into the green this season but we will have to run the table and hope there is at least 104 series!! (Last season we had 107 series)Originally posted by GGPLAYER
You both beat me to it. I actually felt this way after last year and told myself I wasn't going to do it this season and/or just start when a series hit B/C bets BUT then a streak of A bets won and I got greedy and impatient. Just too many D bet losses to make this work. I had hopes again after we rebounded from the early D bet losses but these last two put the nail in coffin. To both your points all things do come to can end and the evolution of the league has ruined this sport. The moment they see they can't make play-offs it's tank time so they can win a lottery pick. Cheers gentlemen to a good run and I'll miss this but I miss money more!
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skyscrapersSBR Hall of Famer
- 05-02-11
- 6316
#3820Wallco NBA Chase 110
2025-2026 System To Date: 71-5 (fin. series)
System Profit/Loss: -27.51 Units (fin. series)
Current Open Series: 1
(3/7/26):
#76 Milwaukee (M/L) (B) - Win
(A) 43-34
(B) 17-16
(C) 9-7
(D) 2-5
Losses: WSH (-18.44u), IND (-20.72u), CHI (-22.65u), BKN (-18.44u), IND (-18.26u)
Games for (3/8/26):
#77 Indiana (+8.5) (B)
#78 Detroit (M/L) (A)
#79 Sacramento (+2.5) (A)
Note: The lines I have listed were the current lines at the time of my post and may not reflect the final lines used to determine wins & losses, or line changes later in the day. Get proper line if different than the one I have posted, based on the criteria that I have listed below.
We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-0.5) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from Scoresandodds.com. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on Scoresandodds.com final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day if the lines do change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post. System rules and backtests can be found in posts #96 & #3630.👍 1Comment -
skyscrapersSBR Hall of Famer
- 05-02-11
- 6316
#3821Wallco NBA Chase 110
2025-2026 System To Date: 72-5 (fin. series)
System Profit/Loss: -26.51 Units (fin. series)
Current Open Series: 2
(3/8/26):
#77 Indiana (+9.5) (B) - Loss
#78 Detroit (M/L) (A) - Loss
#79 Sacramento (+4.5) (A) - Win
(A) 44-35
(B) 17-17
(C) 9-7
(D) 2-5
Losses: WSH (-18.44u), IND (-20.72u), CHI (-22.65u), BKN (-18.44u), IND (-18.26u)
There are no system plays for (3/9/26)
#77 Resumes (C) on 3/10/26
#78 Resumes (B) on 3/10/26
We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-0.5) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from Scoresandodds.com. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on Scoresandodds.com final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day if the lines do change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post. System rules and backtests can be found in posts #96 & #3630.👍 1Comment -
imotiv8SBR Wise Guy
- 12-28-09
- 908
#3822I actually think you’re both wrong. The system has been great to me and I’ve been profitable almost every season except for one.Originally posted by skyscrapers
I completely agree with you Wallco as I have been thinking the same as well. It has been a fun run for the past decade+ though!! The prolific tanking in this league is not the only problem for your system. The league has just evolved and changed too much since the early days of your system. Nowadays, it's all about fast-paced offence and 3-pt shooting with very little emphasis on defense. Most games are not competitive anymore with a lack of sportsmanship with running up the score or not trying (eg...tanking). Also players are getting involved with the gambling scandal didn't help either.
Anyway If I can finish off this season and then I will 'wrap it up' or 'retire' this for good
The key is to create a filter for the worst teams.
Just take a look at this season and what you’d be up if you filtered out the worst teams.Comment -
TwoCatsSBR High Roller
- 07-14-12
- 234
#3823So you are saying add another filter - that is changing the system to meet the changed conditions.Originally posted by imotiv8The key is to create a filter for the worst teams.
Just take a look at this season and what you’d be up if you filtered out the worst teams.
Exactly what would be the wording of that filter?
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Wallco99SBR Hall of Famer
- 01-01-11
- 7270
#3824EXACTLY1111Originally posted by TwoCats
So you are saying add another filter - that is changing the system to meet the changed conditions.
Exactly what would be the wording of that filter?
What he offers is a different system than what I laid out, which was my whole point in saying to stop playing this now shitty system. i guess he is the ONE gambler who always wins no matter what, when everyone else is losing. The whole premise of this system was betting on the worst teams, after losing streaks. So if he is filtering the worst teams out, then he is playing a TOTALLY different system than mine. Chase 110 is dead. Rename your "don't play bad teams" system, and start a new thread. Once you start adding new filters to back tested systems, then that, by definition, becomes a system of its own.
Until teams start tanking, you don't even know which teams they are.👍 1Comment -
imotiv8SBR Wise Guy
- 12-28-09
- 908
#3825Originally posted by Wallco99
EXACTLY1111
What he offers is a different system than what I laid out, which was my whole point in saying to stop playing this now shitty system. i guess he is the ONE gambler who always wins no matter what, when everyone else is losing. The whole premise of this system was betting on the worst teams, after losing streaks. So if he is filtering the worst teams out, then he is playing a TOTALLY different system than mine. Chase 110 is dead. Rename your "don't play bad teams" system, and start a new thread. Once you start adding new filters to back tested systems, then that, by definition, becomes a system of its own.
Until teams start tanking, you don't even know which teams they are.
Every system needs filters. Losing streaks are one thing.
Bad teams are another.
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skyscrapersSBR Hall of Famer
- 05-02-11
- 6316
#3826So during this season, the 5 teams that we lost with were at no point (on those dates from qualifying till the beginning of the chase) were they the team with the worst record in the league nor were not the worst team ATS either. So if you added a filter to eliminate the worst team on the standings and/or the worst team ATS it wouldn't have helped us one bit. Now you're at the point of arbitrarily searching for parameters to apply a filter to a condition that is current that is not likely to be backtested.
Let's say theoretically that you were able to filter out the 'worst' teams in your eyes, then what are you left with to play? You are not going to play the occasional heavy favorites and you won't have much of the 'worst' teams to play with...now what? So you end up with maybe 20 plays per season so just 1 series loss will doom you.
For the record I'm only down -16.5 units instead of the full -26.5 units as I don't play most M/L and I missed plays here and there.Comment -
skyscrapersSBR Hall of Famer
- 05-02-11
- 6316
#3827Wallco NBA Chase 110
2025-2026 System To Date: 72-5 (fin. series)
System Profit/Loss: -26.51 Units (fin. series)
Current Open Series: 2
(A) 44-35
(B) 17-17
(C) 9-7
(D) 2-5
Losses: WSH (-18.44u), IND (-20.72u), CHI (-22.65u), BKN (-18.44u), IND (-18.26u)
Games for (3/10/26):
#77 Indiana (+2.5) (C)
#78 Detroit (M/L) (B)
#80 Washington (+15.5) (A)
Note: The lines I have listed were the current lines at the time of my post and may not reflect the final lines used to determine wins & losses, or line changes later in the day. Get proper line if different than the one I have posted, based on the criteria that I have listed below.
We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-0.5) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from Scoresandodds.com. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on Scoresandodds.com final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day if the lines do change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post. System rules and backtests can be found in posts #96 & #3630.
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Wallco99SBR Hall of Famer
- 01-01-11
- 7270
#3828You are 100% correct. Any filter can be added in after the fact. And for all the reasons that you have listed above, is why it is a DIFFERENT SYTSTEM that he speaks of..Originally posted by skyscrapersSo during this season, the 5 teams that we lost with were at no point (on those dates from qualifying till the beginning of the chase) were they the team with the worst record in the league nor were not the worst team ATS either. So if you added a filter to eliminate the worst team on the standings and/or the worst team ATS it wouldn't have helped us one bit. Now you're at the point of arbitrarily searching for parameters to apply a filter to a condition that is current that is not likely to be backtested.
Let's say theoretically that you were able to filter out the 'worst' teams in your eyes, then what are you left with to play? You are not going to play the occasional heavy favorites and you won't have much of the 'worst' teams to play with...now what? So you end up with maybe 20 plays per season so just 1 series loss will doom you.
For the record I'm only down -16.5 units instead of the full -26.5 units as I don't play most M/L and I missed plays here and there.Comment -
skyscrapersSBR Hall of Famer
- 05-02-11
- 6316
#3829Wallco NBA Chase 110
2025-2026 System To Date: 73-5 (fin. series)
System Profit/Loss: -25.51 Units (fin. series)
Current Open Series: 2
(3/10/26):
#77 Indiana (+9.5) (C) - Loss
#78 Detroit (M/L) (B) - Win
#80 Washington (+4.5) (A) - Loss
(A) 44-36
(B) 18-17
(C) 9-8
(D) 2-5
Losses: WSH (-18.44u), IND (-20.72u), CHI (-22.65u), BKN (-18.44u), IND (-18.26u)
There are no system plays for (3/11/26)
#77 Resumes (D) on 3/12/26
#80 Resumes (B) on 3/12/26
We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-0.5) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from Scoresandodds.com. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on Scoresandodds.com final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day if the lines do change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post. System rules and backtests can be found in posts #96 & #3630.Comment -
GGPLAYERSBR MVP
- 03-26-09
- 2992
#3830
Indiana really?!??! Went to bed with a 59-42 lead and they end up losing 109-114. I had Indy at +4.5
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Wallco99SBR Hall of Famer
- 01-01-11
- 7270
#3831I reiterate ALL of my previous comments.Originally posted by GGPLAYER
Indiana really?!??! Went to bed with a 59-42 lead and they end up losing 109-114. I had Indy at +4.5
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skyscrapersSBR Hall of Famer
- 05-02-11
- 6316
#3832Wallco NBA Chase 110
2025-2026 System To Date: 73-5 (fin. series)
System Profit/Loss: -25.51 Units (fin. series)
Current Open Series: 2
(A) 44-36
(B) 18-17
(C) 9-8
(D) 2-5
Losses: WSH (-18.44u), IND (-20.72u), CHI (-22.65u), BKN (-18.44u), IND (-18.26u)
Games for (3/12/26):
#77 Indiana (+8.5) (D)
#80 Washington (+15.5) (B)
#81 Dallas (M/L) (A)
Note: The lines I have listed were the current lines at the time of my post and may not reflect the final lines used to determine wins & losses, or line changes later in the day. Get proper line if different than the one I have posted, based on the criteria that I have listed below.
We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-0.5) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from Scoresandodds.com. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on Scoresandodds.com final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day if the lines do change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post. System rules and backtests can be found in posts #96 & #3630.👍 1Comment -
GGPLAYERSBR MVP
- 03-26-09
- 2992
#3833Valid point!Originally posted by Wallco99
I reiterate ALL of my previous comments.Comment
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