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  • Wallco99
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 01-01-11
    • 7270

    #3816
    Originally posted by skyscrapers

    I completely agree with you Wallco as I have been thinking the same as well. It has been a fun run for the past decade+ though!! The prolific tanking in this league is not the only problem for your system. The league has just evolved and changed too much since the early days of your system. Nowadays, it's all about fast-paced offence and 3-pt shooting with very little emphasis on defense. Most games are not competitive anymore with a lack of sportsmanship with running up the score or not trying (eg...tanking). Also players are getting involved with the gambling scandal didn't help either.

    Anyway If I can finish off this season and then I will 'wrap it up' or 'retire' this for good
    I agree with all of your added observations.
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    • Wallco99
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 01-01-11
      • 7270

      #3817
      Originally posted by GGPLAYER

      You both beat me to it. I actually felt this way after last year and told myself I wasn't going to do it this season and/or just start when a series hit B/C bets BUT then a streak of A bets won and I got greedy and impatient. Just too many D bet losses to make this work. I had hopes again after we rebounded from the early D bet losses but these last two put the nail in coffin. To both your points all things do come to can end and the evolution of the league has ruined this sport. The moment they see they can't make play-offs it's tank time so they can win a lottery pick. Cheers gentlemen to a good run and I'll miss this but I miss money more!
      Yes, and the most important thing is knowing when to have the sense to call it quits, and the power to actually do it.
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      • skyscrapers
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 05-02-11
        • 6316

        #3818
        Wallco NBA Chase 110
        2025-2026 System To Date: 70-5 (fin. series)
        System Profit/Loss: -28.51 Units (fin. series)
        Current Open Series: 2

        (3/6/26):
        #77 Indiana (+9.5) (A) - Loss


        (A) 43-34
        (B) 16-16
        (C) 9-7
        (D) 2-5
        Losses: WSH (-18.44u), IND (-20.72u), CHI (-22.65u), BKN (-18.44u), IND (-18.26u)

        Games for (3/7/26):
        #76 Milwaukee (M/L) (B)

        #77 Resumes (B) on 3/8/26

        Note: The lines I have listed were the current lines at the time of my post and may not reflect the final lines used to determine wins & losses, or line changes later in the day. Get proper line if different than the one I have posted, based on the criteria that I have listed below.

        We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-0.5) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from Scoresandodds.com. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on Scoresandodds.com final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day if the lines do change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post. System rules and backtests can be found in posts #96 & #3630.​​
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        • skyscrapers
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 05-02-11
          • 6316

          #3819
          Originally posted by GGPLAYER

          You both beat me to it. I actually felt this way after last year and told myself I wasn't going to do it this season and/or just start when a series hit B/C bets BUT then a streak of A bets won and I got greedy and impatient. Just too many D bet losses to make this work. I had hopes again after we rebounded from the early D bet losses but these last two put the nail in coffin. To both your points all things do come to can end and the evolution of the league has ruined this sport. The moment they see they can't make play-offs it's tank time so they can win a lottery pick. Cheers gentlemen to a good run and I'll miss this but I miss money more!
          The optimist in me is telling me that there is still a slim chance we can get back into the green this season but we will have to run the table and hope there is at least 104 series!! (Last season we had 107 series)
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          • skyscrapers
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 05-02-11
            • 6316

            #3820
            Wallco NBA Chase 110
            2025-2026 System To Date: 71-5 (fin. series)
            System Profit/Loss: -27.51 Units (fin. series)
            Current Open Series: 1

            (3/7/26):

            #76 Milwaukee (M/L) (B) - Win

            (A) 43-34
            (B) 17-16
            (C) 9-7
            (D) 2-5
            Losses: WSH (-18.44u), IND (-20.72u), CHI (-22.65u), BKN (-18.44u), IND (-18.26u)

            Games for (3/8/26):
            #77 Indiana (+8.5) (B)
            #78 Detroit (M/L) (A)
            #79 Sacramento (+2.5) (A)

            Note: The lines I have listed were the current lines at the time of my post and may not reflect the final lines used to determine wins & losses, or line changes later in the day. Get proper line if different than the one I have posted, based on the criteria that I have listed below.


            We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-0.5) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from Scoresandodds.com. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on Scoresandodds.com final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day if the lines do change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post. System rules and backtests can be found in posts #96 & #3630.​​​​​
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            • skyscrapers
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 05-02-11
              • 6316

              #3821
              Wallco NBA Chase 110
              2025-2026 System To Date: 72-5 (fin. series)
              System Profit/Loss: -26.51 Units (fin. series)
              Current Open Series: 2

              (3/8/26):
              #77 Indiana (+9.5) (B) - Loss

              #78 Detroit (M/L) (A) - Loss
              #79 Sacramento (+4.5) (A) - Win

              (A) 44-35
              (B) 17-17
              (C) 9-7
              (D) 2-5
              Losses: WSH (-18.44u), IND (-20.72u), CHI (-22.65u), BKN (-18.44u), IND (-18.26u)

              There are no system plays for (3/9/26)

              #77
              Resumes (C) on 3/10/26
              #78 Resumes (B) on 3/10/26

              We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-0.5) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from Scoresandodds.com. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on Scoresandodds.com final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day if the lines do change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post. System rules and backtests can be found in posts #96 & #3630.​​​​
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              • imotiv8
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 12-28-09
                • 908

                #3822
                Originally posted by skyscrapers

                I completely agree with you Wallco as I have been thinking the same as well. It has been a fun run for the past decade+ though!! The prolific tanking in this league is not the only problem for your system. The league has just evolved and changed too much since the early days of your system. Nowadays, it's all about fast-paced offence and 3-pt shooting with very little emphasis on defense. Most games are not competitive anymore with a lack of sportsmanship with running up the score or not trying (eg...tanking). Also players are getting involved with the gambling scandal didn't help either.

                Anyway If I can finish off this season and then I will 'wrap it up' or 'retire' this for good
                I actually think you’re both wrong. The system has been great to me and I’ve been profitable almost every season except for one.

                The key is to create a filter for the worst teams.

                Just take a look at this season and what you’d be up if you filtered out the worst teams.
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                • TwoCats
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 07-14-12
                  • 234

                  #3823
                  Originally posted by imotiv8
                  The key is to create a filter for the worst teams.

                  Just take a look at this season and what you’d be up if you filtered out the worst teams.
                  So you are saying add another filter - that is changing the system to meet the changed conditions.
                  Exactly what would be the wording of that filter?

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                  • Wallco99
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 01-01-11
                    • 7270

                    #3824
                    Originally posted by TwoCats

                    So you are saying add another filter - that is changing the system to meet the changed conditions.
                    Exactly what would be the wording of that filter?
                    EXACTLY1111
                    What he offers is a different system than what I laid out, which was my whole point in saying to stop playing this now shitty system. i guess he is the ONE gambler who always wins no matter what, when everyone else is losing. The whole premise of this system was betting on the worst teams, after losing streaks. So if he is filtering the worst teams out, then he is playing a TOTALLY different system than mine. Chase 110 is dead. Rename your "don't play bad teams" system, and start a new thread. Once you start adding new filters to back tested systems, then that, by definition, becomes a system of its own.
                    Until teams start tanking, you don't even know which teams they are.
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                    • imotiv8
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 12-28-09
                      • 908

                      #3825
                      Originally posted by Wallco99

                      EXACTLY1111
                      What he offers is a different system than what I laid out, which was my whole point in saying to stop playing this now shitty system. i guess he is the ONE gambler who always wins no matter what, when everyone else is losing. The whole premise of this system was betting on the worst teams, after losing streaks. So if he is filtering the worst teams out, then he is playing a TOTALLY different system than mine. Chase 110 is dead. Rename your "don't play bad teams" system, and start a new thread. Once you start adding new filters to back tested systems, then that, by definition, becomes a system of its own.
                      Until teams start tanking, you don't even know which teams they are.



                      Every system needs filters. Losing streaks are one thing.
                      Bad teams are another.
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                      • skyscrapers
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 05-02-11
                        • 6316

                        #3826
                        So during this season, the 5 teams that we lost with were at no point (on those dates from qualifying till the beginning of the chase) were they the team with the worst record in the league nor were not the worst team ATS either. So if you added a filter to eliminate the worst team on the standings and/or the worst team ATS it wouldn't have helped us one bit. Now you're at the point of arbitrarily searching for parameters to apply a filter to a condition that is current that is not likely to be backtested.

                        Let's say theoretically that you were able to filter out the 'worst' teams in your eyes, then what are you left with to play? You are not going to play the occasional heavy favorites and you won't have much of the 'worst' teams to play with...now what? So you end up with maybe 20 plays per season so just 1 series loss will doom you.

                        For the record I'm only down -16.5 units instead of the full -26.5 units as I don't play most M/L and I missed plays here and there.
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                        • skyscrapers
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 05-02-11
                          • 6316

                          #3827
                          Wallco NBA Chase 110
                          2025-2026 System To Date: 72-5 (fin. series)
                          System Profit/Loss: -26.51 Units (fin. series)
                          Current Open Series: 2

                          (A) 44-35
                          (B) 17-17
                          (C) 9-7
                          (D) 2-5
                          Losses: WSH (-18.44u), IND (-20.72u), CHI (-22.65u), BKN (-18.44u), IND (-18.26u)

                          Games for (3/10/26):
                          #77 Indiana (+2.5) (C)
                          #78 Detroit (M/L) (B)
                          #80 Washington (+15.5) (A)

                          Note: The lines I have listed were the current lines at the time of my post and may not reflect the final lines used to determine wins & losses, or line changes later in the day. Get proper line if different than the one I have posted, based on the criteria that I have listed below.


                          We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-0.5) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from Scoresandodds.com. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on Scoresandodds.com final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day if the lines do change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post. System rules and backtests can be found in posts #96 & #3630.
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                          • Wallco99
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 01-01-11
                            • 7270

                            #3828
                            Originally posted by skyscrapers
                            So during this season, the 5 teams that we lost with were at no point (on those dates from qualifying till the beginning of the chase) were they the team with the worst record in the league nor were not the worst team ATS either. So if you added a filter to eliminate the worst team on the standings and/or the worst team ATS it wouldn't have helped us one bit. Now you're at the point of arbitrarily searching for parameters to apply a filter to a condition that is current that is not likely to be backtested.

                            Let's say theoretically that you were able to filter out the 'worst' teams in your eyes, then what are you left with to play? You are not going to play the occasional heavy favorites and you won't have much of the 'worst' teams to play with...now what? So you end up with maybe 20 plays per season so just 1 series loss will doom you.

                            For the record I'm only down -16.5 units instead of the full -26.5 units as I don't play most M/L and I missed plays here and there.
                            You are 100% correct. Any filter can be added in after the fact. And for all the reasons that you have listed above, is why it is a DIFFERENT SYTSTEM that he speaks of..
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                            • skyscrapers
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 05-02-11
                              • 6316

                              #3829
                              Wallco NBA Chase 110
                              2025-2026 System To Date: 73-5 (fin. series)
                              System Profit/Loss: -25.51 Units (fin. series)
                              Current Open Series: 2

                              (3/10/26):
                              #77 Indiana (+9.5) (C) - Loss

                              #78 Detroit (M/L) (B) - Win
                              #80 Washington (+4.5) (A) - Loss

                              (A) 44-36
                              (B) 18-17
                              (C) 9-8
                              (D) 2-5
                              Losses: WSH (-18.44u), IND (-20.72u), CHI (-22.65u), BKN (-18.44u), IND (-18.26u)

                              There are no system plays for (3/11/26)

                              #77
                              Resumes (D) on 3/12/26
                              #80 Resumes (B) on 3/12/26

                              We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-0.5) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from Scoresandodds.com. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on Scoresandodds.com final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day if the lines do change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post. System rules and backtests can be found in posts #96 & #3630.​​​​
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                              • GGPLAYER
                                SBR MVP
                                • 03-26-09
                                • 2992

                                #3830
                                Indiana really?!??! Went to bed with a 59-42 lead and they end up losing 109-114. I had Indy at +4.5
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                                • Wallco99
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 01-01-11
                                  • 7270

                                  #3831
                                  Originally posted by GGPLAYER
                                  Indiana really?!??! Went to bed with a 59-42 lead and they end up losing 109-114. I had Indy at +4.5
                                  I reiterate ALL of my previous comments.
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                                  • skyscrapers
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 05-02-11
                                    • 6316

                                    #3832
                                    Wallco NBA Chase 110
                                    2025-2026 System To Date: 73-5 (fin. series)
                                    System Profit/Loss: -25.51 Units (fin. series)
                                    Current Open Series: 2

                                    (A) 44-36
                                    (B) 18-17
                                    (C) 9-8
                                    (D) 2-5
                                    Losses: WSH (-18.44u), IND (-20.72u), CHI (-22.65u), BKN (-18.44u), IND (-18.26u)

                                    Games for (3/12/26):
                                    #77 Indiana (+8.5) (D)
                                    #80 Washington (+15.5) (B)
                                    #81 Dallas (M/L) (A)

                                    Note: The lines I have listed were the current lines at the time of my post and may not reflect the final lines used to determine wins & losses, or line changes later in the day. Get proper line if different than the one I have posted, based on the criteria that I have listed below.


                                    We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-0.5) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from Scoresandodds.com. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on Scoresandodds.com final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day if the lines do change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post. System rules and backtests can be found in posts #96 & #3630.
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                                    • GGPLAYER
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 03-26-09
                                      • 2992

                                      #3833
                                      Originally posted by Wallco99

                                      I reiterate ALL of my previous comments.
                                      Valid point!
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