Hawks don't cover again...

stevenash · 04-22-15, 08:25 PM

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Doubtful.
And this coming from a guy who bet the Nets in both games.

Nets don't have enough talent to beat them twice outright.

waste1 · 04-22-15, 08:32 PM

nets have horrible shooters...they almost never make a field goal. game was just so close because hawks were shooting horrible aswell.

Seto · 04-22-15, 08:48 PM

Originally posted by stevenash

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Doubtful.
And this coming from a guy who bet the Nets in both games.

Nets don't have enough talent to beat them twice outright.

Disagree there. The Nets have more talent than Atlanta imo. They just have those stretches in games where they stop executing on offense and have scoring droughts and turnovers and shit. Their halfcourt defense has been excellent so far and they have reasonably shut down this supposedly awesome Atlanta offense.

As long as they don't give up huge runs and consequently quit they should have a great chance to win at home.

stevenash · 04-22-15, 08:49 PM

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They got Lopez down low, only chance they had I thought tonight was for Thad Young to step up, and he was nowhere.
Teague was awful, Carroll did other things nice besides shoot, but know this, Carroll was brutal, beyond brutal shooting the ball.
Hawks were ripe for a 5 point loss, Brooklyn could not and did not get it done.

Hawks cruise from here on out.

bigtymer56 · 04-22-15, 08:55 PM

Originally posted by stevenash

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They got Lopez down low, only chance they had I thought tonight was for Thad Young to step up, and he was nowhere.
Teague was awful, Carroll did other things nice besides shoot, but know this, Carroll was brutal, beyond brutal shooting the ball.
Hawks were ripe for a 5 point loss, Brooklyn could not and did not get it done.

Hawks cruise from here on out.

Exactly Atl shot under 40% and still won. See a sweep coming.

Seto · 04-22-15, 08:57 PM

Originally posted by stevenash

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They got Lopez down low, only chance they had I thought tonight was for Thad Young to step up, and he was nowhere.
Teague was awful, Carroll did other things nice besides shoot, but know this, Carroll was brutal, beyond brutal shooting the ball.
Hawks were ripe for a 5 point loss, Brooklyn could not and did not get it done.

Hawks cruise from here on out.

Thad Young was atrocious. He probably cost them about 10 points in the 3rd quarter on a few possessions in a row.

From here on it's really whether you believe that Atlanta was exposed as an average team in these first couple games or whether you believe they took Brooklyn's best shot, survived it, and their best is still to come. I personally believe the former but we all see things differently.

44 Mag · 04-22-15, 08:58 PM

Originally posted by NardVa

Hawks fell to put the Nets away in the 4th quarter again. This team has issues with closing a game. I expect Brooklyn to take both games back at home.

It's playoff BB, ML's . Just my opinion.

Seto · 04-22-15, 08:58 PM

Originally posted by bigtymer56

Exactly Atl shot under 40% and still won. See a sweep coming.

Why did they shoot 40% though? It's not like they were missing easy shots. They just weren't able to get good looks against this Nets D.

And on the flip side I don't have the numbers but I'd guess they shot very well from 3. That can also change.

stevenash · 04-22-15, 09:22 PM

Originally posted by Seto

Why did they shoot 40% though? It's not like they were missing easy shots. They just weren't able to get good looks against this Nets D.

And on the flip side I don't have the numbers but I'd guess they shot very well from 3. That can also change.

FIELD GOALSREBOUNDS
	POS	MIN	FGM-A	3PM-A	FTM-A	+/-	OFF	DEF	TOT	AST	PF	ST	TO	BS	BA	PTS
J. Johnson	F	39:26	6-16	3-8	4-4	-18	0	9	9	3	3	1	1	0	0	19
T. Young	F	23:45	1-7	0-1	0-2	+2	2	3	5	6	4	1	3	0	1	2
B. Lopez	C	39:27	8-15	0-0	4-4	-5	3	4	7	0	4	0	0	3	1	20
B. Bogdanovic	G	33:40	3-9	2-6	0-0	-5	0	3	3	2	3	0	1	1	2	8
D. Williams	G	28:08	1-7	0-2	0-0	-11	1	9	10	8	1	2	3	0	2	2
M. Teletovic		03:50	0-2	0-2	0-0	-2	0	2	2	0	0	0	1	0	0	0
A. Anderson		29:52	5-7	1-2	2-3	+2	1	4	5	1	1	0	2	0	0	13
J. Jack		28:34	9-13	2-5	3-3	+9	0	5	5	3	2	1	4	0	1	23
M. Plumlee		13:18	2-2	0-0	0-2	+3	1	2	3	0	3	1	1	1	0	4
M. Brown	DNP - COACH'S DECISION
C. Jefferson	DNP - COACH'S DECISION
J. Jordan	DNP - COACH'S DECISION
D. Morris	DNP - COACH'S DECISION
Total		240	35-78	8-26	13-18		8	41	49	23	21	6	16	5	7	91
			44.9%	30.8%	72.2%		TEAM REBS: 6			TOTAL TO: 16

FIELD GOALSREBOUNDS
	POS	MIN	FGM-A	3PM-A	FTM-A	+/-	OFF	DEF	TOT	AST	PF	ST	TO	BS	BA	PTS
D. Carroll	F	33:52	1-8	0-5	0-0	+15	0	8	8	5	2	1	1	1	1	2
P. Millsap	F	34:03	7-11	4-4	1-2	+17	2	5	7	2	2	0	1	2	1	19
A. Horford	C	36:18	6-15	0-0	2-2	+1	3	10	13	7	2	1	2	2	0	14
K. Korver	G	36:15	5-9	3-7	4-5	+2	0	3	3	1	0	4	0	1	0	17
J. Teague	G	31:06	6-16	2-5	2-2	-2	0	3	3	6	1	1	3	0	0	16
P. Antic		13:02	2-6	1-2	3-5	+4	2	0	2	0	3	0	0	0	0	8
K. Bazemore		16:51	1-5	0-3	1-2	+10	0	3	3	0	3	1	0	1	0	3
D. Schroder		19:02	5-11	1-2	1-1	0	0	0	0	6	2	2	1	0	2	12
M. Scott		12:24	1-7	1-3	0-0	-10	1	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	1	3
S. Mack		06:54	1-2	0-0	0-0	-10	0	1	1	0	2	1	0	0	0	2
E. Brand		00:13	0-0	0-0	0-0	-2	0	0	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	0
J. Jenkins	DNP - COACH'S DECISION
M. Muscala	DNP - COACH'S DECISION
Total		240	35-90	12-31	14-19		8	33	41	27	18	11	8	7	5	96
			38.9%	38.7%	73.7%		TEAM REBS: 12			TOTAL TO: 9

stevenash · 04-22-15, 09:25 PM

Schroder was just as effective in 20 minutes than Teague was in 30.
I like that German.

GoBlue77 · 04-22-15, 09:26 PM

all i know is these games are not even worth watching

stevenash · 04-22-15, 09:29 PM

Originally posted by GoBlue77

all i know is these games are not even worth watching

Spurs game might be good, but still think Clips win by 10.

bigtymer56 · 04-22-15, 09:33 PM

Shot 40% so you gotta a point there.

Anyway, this was a game the Nets had a chance to win and didnt.

PS. The Nets have more talent? Outside of Lopez, do the Nets have any other position where they have an advantage?

Seto · 04-22-15, 09:35 PM

Originally posted by bigtymer56

Shot 40% so you gotta a point there.

Anyway, this was a game the Nets a chance to win and didnt.

PS. The Nets have more talent? Outside of Lopez, do the Nets have any other position where they have an advantage?

You don't consider guys like Johnson and Williams as talented players? Their attitude/lack of leadership are always a question mark but I don't think their talent is something one can question.

stevenash · 04-22-15, 09:43 PM

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My point I was trying to make, but wasn't clear enough is, yes Brooklyn has talent, just not more talent than Atlanta.

GoBlue77 · 04-22-15, 09:52 PM

Originally posted by stevenash

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My point I was trying to make, but wasn't clear enough is, yes Brooklyn has talent, just not more talent than Atlanta.

talen, meh yeah but talent without effort/heart means nothing. DWILL with the big 2 point performance. that dude is just an embarrassment.

bigtymer56 · 04-22-15, 10:17 PM

Originally posted by Seto

You don't consider guys like Johnson and Williams as talented players? Their attitude/lack of leadership are always a question mark but I don't think their talent is something one can question.

As Nash said, you said more talent than Atlanta...and if you gave me the option of those 2 versus Teague and Korver, I would take the latter. My heart sunk when Williams caught that ball on the final play. Had to find him at the worst possible time. Blame that on the coaching though. Dont understand what Hollins has against Lopez. Or at least run a play where Jack would've gotten the ball if Johnson couldnt get up a shot.

And just a note for Game 3 and Game 4, Nets only team in the playoffs with a losing record at home during the season (19-22). So dont be surprised when they dont play better or with more fire or passion.

Seto · 04-22-15, 10:32 PM

Originally posted by stevenash

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My point I was trying to make, but wasn't clear enough is, yes Brooklyn has talent, just not more talent than Atlanta.

Atlanta had a great regular season because they move the ball and are unselfish and play hard every game and all that crap. Now they have good players but I don't think that team is very talented tbh. I would be surprised to see them make the ECF.

Seto · 04-22-15, 10:34 PM

Originally posted by bigtymer56

As Nash said, you said more talent than Atlanta...and if you gave me the option of those 2 versus Teague and Korver, I would take the latter. My heart sunk when Williams caught that ball on the final play. Had to find him at the worst possible time. Blame that on the coaching though. Dont understand what Hollins has against Lopez. Or at least run a play where Jack would've gotten the ball if Johnson couldnt get up a shot.

And just a note for Game 3 and Game 4, Nets only team in the playoffs with a losing record at home during the season (19-22). So dont be surprised when they dont play better or with more fire or passion.

I don't think fire or passion is the problem here. They have for the most part competed well in these first 2 games. They just need to play a bit better on offense and I think they'll do a better job at home. Atlanta's team full of role players won't make as many of those momentum altering plays on the road too.

I still think Brooklyn has a solid chance to win the series. I realise they will be +2500 or so so I sound silly but I'm dead serious.