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  • LT Profits
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 10-27-06
    • 90963

    #1
    NBA - Friday, 1/16/15
    1 NBA Play Friday

    Raptors +102 ML (5 Dimes)


    YTD: 50-64-3, -15.62
  • johnnymapalo
    SBR MVP
    • 06-14-08
    • 2999

    #2
    Yes, I feel that much confident in my Atlanta play now. Lol.
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    • LT Profits
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 10-27-06
      • 90963

      #3
      This line seems skewed by Atlanta 10-game winning streak, these teams are close enough talent wise where Toronto should probably be -2/-2.5 at home
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      • CDUBB_CW
        SBR MVP
        • 07-12-14
        • 1002

        #4
        Raptors usually dominant the Hawks in most recent match ups.
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        • LT Profits
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 10-27-06
          • 90963

          #5
          Originally posted by CDUBB_CW
          Raptors usually dominant the Hawks in most recent match ups.
          Most importantly 2-0 THIS season
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          • Emf66
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 01-05-15
            • 600

            #6
            Originally posted by LT Profits
            Most importantly 2-0 THIS season

            LT, you can easily argue that the 2-0 is a good reason why the Hawks would win tonight plus regarding
            the odds its not purely the 10 game streak its the quality of the wins AND the style. They are blowing
            everyone out including all the West teams. Go and watch some of their games and see for yourself.
            Derozan back helps but you could easily see the Hawks win this by 15 proving they are Kings. BOL but be careful. All the best
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            • hottips
              SBR Hustler
              • 05-15-14
              • 99

              #7
              Originally posted by Emf66
              LT, you can easily argue that the 2-0 is a good reason why the Hawks would win tonight plus regarding
              the odds its not purely the 10 game streak its the quality of the wins AND the style. They are blowing
              everyone out including all the West teams. Go and watch some of their games and see for yourself.
              Derozan back helps but you could easily see the Hawks win this by 15 proving they are Kings. BOL but be careful. All the best
              i agree, bol to all
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              • A.M.S.
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 06-26-10
                • 837

                #8
                Bol to all
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                • killersweet
                  SBR MVP
                  • 12-02-08
                  • 1483

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Emf66
                  LT, you can easily argue that the 2-0 is a good reason why the Hawks would win tonight plus regarding
                  the odds its not purely the 10 game streak its the quality of the wins AND the style. They are blowing
                  everyone out including all the West teams. Go and watch some of their games and see for yourself.
                  Derozan back helps but you could easily see the Hawks win this by 15 proving they are Kings. BOL but be careful. All the best
                  If Hawks can beat the raptors by 15 at Raptors home, I'll be stunned. Hawks may win tonight, but I don't see them blowing the raptors out.
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                  • Emf66
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 01-05-15
                    • 600

                    #10
                    Originally posted by killersweet
                    If Hawks can beat the raptors by 15 at Raptors home, I'll be stunned. Hawks may win tonight, but I don't see them blowing the raptors out.
                    Hornets smacked them 1 week ago, final line was 8 but it wasnt that close. Im not saying the line
                    should be Atl -15 Im saying they have been up 20-25 on virtually every team so it is without doubt
                    possible. If you too that they are quite happy to smash teams without let up – see 120-89 Wizz line
                    last week. Do you think Toronto are that much better than the Wizz?
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                    • killersweet
                      SBR MVP
                      • 12-02-08
                      • 1483

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Emf66
                      Hornets smacked them 1 week ago, final line was 8 but it wasnt that close. Im not saying the line
                      should be Atl -15 Im saying they have been up 20-25 on virtually every team so it is without doubt
                      possible. If you too that they are quite happy to smash teams without let up – see 120-89 Wizz line
                      last week. Do you think Toronto are that much better than the Wizz?
                      Hornets have historically given raptors trouble. Toronto was playing better ball than Atl and Wiz before DD went down. They were initially doing okay without him, but it has caught up to Lowry who was carrying the team. That's why they started to fade in the middle of that horrific west coast trip. Now that they have DD back, they are slowly going to get going again. They are a team that usually don't get blown out, especially at home. Yes, Atlanta has been blowing teams out, but I would be very surprised if raptors lose by more than 5 or 6 points tonight.
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                      • Emf66
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 01-05-15
                        • 600

                        #12
                        Originally posted by killersweet
                        Hornets have historically given raptors trouble. Toronto was playing better ball than Atl and Wiz before DD went down. They were initially doing okay without him, but it has caught up to Lowry who was carrying the team. That's why they started to fade in the middle of that horrific west coast trip. Now that they have DD back, they are slowly going to get going again. They are a team that usually don't get blown out, especially at home. Yes, Atlanta has been blowing teams out, but I would be very surprised if raptors lose by more than 5 or 6 points tonight.
                        I dont personally put any stock on the historical but agree with DD helping to get them back on track whether it happens as quick as tonight is debateable and dependent on his conditioning. I think everyone has continued to be surprised and/or question can the Hawks continue – myself included – but we cant ignore their astounding run. Every single game Ive watched they have drilled out to 20 pts leads and hardly looked back, anyway we shall see! Should be a good game to watch with two of the Easts best to offer, Im tired of hearing all the West coast crap anyway so Im glad the Hawks went out their and kicked ass. BOL
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                        • 44 Mag
                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                          • 10-14-13
                          • 34490

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Emf66
                          I dont personally put any stock on the historical but agree with DD helping to get them back on track whether it happens as quick as tonight is debateable and dependent on his conditioning. I think everyone has continued to be surprised and/or question can the Hawks continue – myself included – but we cant ignore their astounding run. Every single game Ive watched they have drilled out to 20 pts leads and hardly looked back, anyway we shall see! Should be a good game to watch with two of the Easts best to offer, Im tired of hearing all the West coast crap anyway so Im glad the Hawks went out their and kicked ass. BOL
                          Agreed, Trouble with the Hawks is they are a "three" ball team. How does Toronto hold up against perimeter shooting teams???
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                          • killersweet
                            SBR MVP
                            • 12-02-08
                            • 1483

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Emf66
                            I dont personally put any stock on the historical but agree with DD helping to get them back on track whether it happens as quick as tonight is debateable and dependent on his conditioning. I think everyone has continued to be surprised and/or question can the Hawks continue – myself included – but we cant ignore their astounding run. Every single game Ive watched they have drilled out to 20 pts leads and hardly looked back, anyway we shall see! Should be a good game to watch with two of the Easts best to offer, Im tired of hearing all the West coast crap anyway so Im glad the Hawks went out their and kicked ass. BOL
                            Hawks have been great for sure. They are already down 2-0 to the raptors this season. So I am sure they will be motivated to get a win tonight. The game has a good chance of going over as well. Both teams can put up the points.
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                            • Emf66
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 01-05-15
                              • 600

                              #15
                              Originally posted by 44 Mag
                              Agreed, Trouble with the Hawks is they are a "three" ball team. How does Toronto hold up against perimeter shooting teams???
                              mid table - 15th as I recall – so mixed bag there. I think while the Hawks bang the 3 they get constant layups via floor spacing and ball movement. Ive watched a few of their games and I couldnt believe
                              their success at it
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                              • killersweet
                                SBR MVP
                                • 12-02-08
                                • 1483

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Emf66
                                mid table - 15th as I recall – so mixed bag there. I think while the Hawks bang the 3 they get constant layups via floor spacing and ball movement. Ive watched a few of their games and I couldnt believe
                                their success at it
                                Horford and Millsap going to trouble the raptors frontcourt. Teague has been insane. Should be a dandy tonight!
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                                • Emf66
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 01-05-15
                                  • 600

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by killersweet
                                  Horford and Millsap going to trouble the raptors frontcourt. Teague has been insane. Should be a dandy tonight!

                                  I have to be honest up until two weeks ago I hadnt played the Raptors then watched one of their games
                                  and was rather unimpressed with the starters (good bench). It was the Hornets game actually and sure
                                  enough they got smacked (and me with it lol – my fault for not be up to date with them) so I would
                                  like to see them get motoring again as they were earlier. Does anyone else feel that way? DD will
                                  certainly help the cause
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                                  • killersweet
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 12-02-08
                                    • 1483

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Emf66
                                    I have to be honest up until two weeks ago I hadnt played the Raptors then watched one of their games
                                    and was rather unimpressed with the starters (good bench). It was the Hornets game actually and sure
                                    enough they got smacked (and me with it lol – my fault for not be up to date with them) so I would
                                    like to see them get motoring again as they were earlier. Does anyone else feel that way? DD will
                                    certainly help the cause
                                    Raptors front court has been weak. They are a poor rebounding team. But lately during their struggles, their perimeter defense hasn't been great, which can spell trouble tonight with Teague. But they are hard working team. That's why they don't get blown out often as they fight their way back most of the time. This should be a fun game for sure.
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                                    • nickcruz60
                                      SBR Sharp
                                      • 02-11-14
                                      • 353

                                      #19
                                      LT what's your thoughts on SA Spurs tonight?
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                                      • LT Profits
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 10-27-06
                                        • 90963

                                        #20
                                        1 NBA Addition

                                        2 NBA Plays Friday

                                        Raptors +102 ML (5 Dimes)
                                        Heat +3 -105 (5 Dimes)
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                                        • R.P. McMurphy
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 06-15-12
                                          • 9654

                                          #21
                                          Impossible to beat nba in my opinion just going off #'s and seeing "perceived" value based on them. Follow hot streaks, look for teams tendencies, and bad spots. Guys who say the actually "cap" nba games make me laugh. Much respect for LT but you are better off just knowing the flow in this league than #'s.
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                                          • Emf66
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 01-05-15
                                            • 600

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by R.P. McMurphy
                                            Impossible to beat nba in my opinion just going off #'s and seeing "perceived" value based on them. Follow hot streaks, look for teams tendencies, and bad spots. Guys who say the actually "cap" nba games make me laugh. Much respect for LT but you are better off just knowing the flow in this league than #'s.
                                            can you clarify what you mean? Are you saying ditch the technical/data support and look for the
                                            eye test / feel side of things to gauge performance & picks?
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                                            • R.P. McMurphy
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 06-15-12
                                              • 9654

                                              #23
                                              No just follow the ebb/ flow and try to recognize tendencies. Teams coming back 1st gm long road trips, know which teams suck on b2b (Clips), suck at home (Bulls), those teams are also big name draws and you should always get a little added line value with them anyhow cause every sucker thinks they are both elite contenders.

                                              Give ya a couple other examples. Two years back I noticed Wiz were covering every fukkin gm almost early on especially as a dog. I coined the phrase "darling doggie" and rode them alot that season and still do. Added Sun's to my list last season. Also noticed last season Detroit were playing like dogshit in 2h almost every gm. Go into half up 53-48 and score like 13 points in one of the final Q's and blew it. Team was a great 2h fade last season and into this one until they shipped dipshit who helped alot on those failures. I've mentioned both those numerous times around here they've been a couple of my personal faves. Just look at find what's out there and find those tendencies. If you aren't riding Atl and fading NYK every night lately you are missing out. And I don't need to spend half an afternoon crunching #'s in the process it's right in front of you!!
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                                              • R.P. McMurphy
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 06-15-12
                                                • 9654

                                                #24
                                                Here's another tip keep an eye on Boston. Been keeping track of their games a bit and noticed they seem to drag ass and get in holes early on. Looking to possibly start a 1q or 1h fade on them soon. Bol everyone!
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                                                • Emf66
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 01-05-15
                                                  • 600

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by R.P. McMurphy
                                                  No just follow the ebb/ flow and try to recognize tendencies. Teams coming back 1st gm long road trips, know which teams suck on b2b (Clips), suck at home (Bulls), those teams are also big name draws and you should always get a little added line value with them anyhow cause every sucker thinks they are both elite contenders.

                                                  Give ya a couple other examples. Two years back I noticed Wiz were covering every fukkin gm almost early on especially as a dog. I coined the phrase "darling doggie" and rode them alot that season and still do. Added Sun's to my list last season. Also noticed last season Detroit were playing like dogshit in 2h almost every gm. Go into half up 53-48 and score like 13 points in one of the final Q's and blew it. Team was a great 2h fade last season and into this one until they shipped dipshit who helped alot on those failures. I've mentioned both those numerous times around here they've been a couple of my personal faves. Just look at find what's out there and find those tendencies. If you aren't riding Atl and fading NYK every night lately you are missing out. And I don't need to spend half an afternoon crunching #'s in the process it's right in front of you!!
                                                  yep I do that in all sports in fact it's the first thing I look for each year and there is often carry over
                                                  as you note – see New Jersey Devils 1st period under totals – Ottawa Sens 1st period win % - I look for
                                                  the obvious strongest results with a team most under the radar Ottawa being a great example. They
                                                  won 70% of their 1st periods last year while having an overall average record. If you havent been on
                                                  Atl and the NY you are blind they are off the charts. BOL
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                                                  • Emf66
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 01-05-15
                                                    • 600

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by R.P. McMurphy
                                                    No just follow the ebb/ flow and try to recognize tendencies. Teams coming back 1st gm long road trips, know which teams suck on b2b (Clips), suck at home (Bulls), those teams are also big name draws and you should always get a little added line value with them anyhow cause every sucker thinks they are both elite contenders.

                                                    Give ya a couple other examples. Two years back I noticed Wiz were covering every fukkin gm almost early on especially as a dog. I coined the phrase "darling doggie" and rode them alot that season and still do. Added Sun's to my list last season. Also noticed last season Detroit were playing like dogshit in 2h almost every gm. Go into half up 53-48 and score like 13 points in one of the final Q's and blew it. Team was a great 2h fade last season and into this one until they shipped dipshit who helped alot on those failures. I've mentioned both those numerous times around here they've been a couple of my personal faves. Just look at find what's out there and find those tendencies. If you aren't riding Atl and fading NYK every night lately you are missing out. And I don't need to spend half an afternoon crunching #'s in the process it's right in front of you!!
                                                    Replace Ottawa with Columbus, Ottawa was my 1st period over team
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                                                    • Emf66
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 01-05-15
                                                      • 600

                                                      #27
                                                      down early but the come back late, just ask the Pelicans this week lol. Need to see how losing Green
                                                      shakes out though
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                                                      • killersweet
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 12-02-08
                                                        • 1483

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Emf66
                                                        down early but the come back late, just ask the Pelicans this week lol. Need to see how losing Green
                                                        shakes out though
                                                        you were spot on with your pick in the raptors game. I am surprised how poorly the raptors executed and that may have to do with how well Atlanta played defense. Very impressive.
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                                                        • LT Profits
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 10-27-06
                                                          • 90963

                                                          #29
                                                          Got the split at least. Moving on...
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