Someone please explain why this gambling logic doesn't work

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  • dunderball
    SBR Rookie
    • 08-30-12
    • 42

    #1
    Someone please explain why this gambling logic doesn't work
    From a friend in google chat:

    im thinking of doing this bet where i do pacers ML and hawks to cover at the same time
    if i put 50 on pacers ml and 50 on hawks to cover
    i can only lose 25 max if pacers blow hawks out
    if hawks win SU i lose 3 dollars
    but if pacers win but dont cover, i win 75
    doesnt that sound pretty good!

    I'm guessing his logic is to limit losses by playing both sides but I forget why it's normally not a good idea.
  • RollinDo
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 09-04-13
    • 13322

    #2
    I was thinking the exact same thing with this game. I would make the play to try to hit both ends, which I think it might. The biggest worry is that Indy may not win SU, which would carry the bigger loss than the Hawks not covering.
    If I were betting nba today (and I still might), this would be my POD.

    $10 on Indy ML to win $6

    $7.50 on Hawks (+5) to win $7
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    • keel44
      SBR MVP
      • 08-01-09
      • 3363

      #3
      You got to think long term. You basically are getting a 3-1 payout. You have a very low margin for error. Ask yourself, does the payout justify what needs to happen? If you don't take advantage of line movement, this is not a sound strategy long term. Learn if the line will move and by how much to fully gain an edge.

      Last night Miami opened up -350 against New Orleans (+7.5). This game closed at Miami -450 against New Orleans (+9.5)

      You could start with Miami ml $35 to win $10. Then finish with NO (+9.5) $38.50 to win $35

      Miami wins but does not cover: $45 profit
      Miami loses: $0 profit
      Miami wins and covers: -$28.5

      $28.5 is at risk to profit $45 basically a +158 wager

      just one way to look at it, there are other ways
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      • dontknowtohedge
        SBR High Roller
        • 10-11-13
        • 237

        #4
        I bet only one side and try to catch a middle at HT. That way you can ensure you won't take any size loss no matter what happens. This is assuming you can get a "good" number to middle. Often the HT line will be (too) relative to the game line.
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        • 44 Mag
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 10-14-13
          • 34491

          #5
          Originally posted by dontknowtohedge
          I bet only one side and try to catch a middle at HT. That way you can ensure you won't take any size loss no matter what happens. This is assuming you can get a "good" number to middle. Often the HT line will be (too) relative to the game line.
          The best way to middle a game is in the NFL with a close game, and you have to get the tease right: over/under. Most books know what you are doing and don't like it, the locals anyway. BOL...
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          • Seto
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 12-16-11
            • 12906

            #6
            Originally posted by keel44
            You got to think long term. You basically are getting a 3-1 payout. You have a very low margin for error. Ask yourself, does the payout justify what needs to happen? If you don't take advantage of line movement, this is not a sound strategy long term. Learn if the line will move and by how much to fully gain an edge.

            Last night Miami opened up -350 against New Orleans (+7.5). This game closed at Miami -450 against New Orleans (+9.5)

            You could start with Miami ml $35 to win $10. Then finish with NO (+9.5) $38.50 to win $35

            Miami wins but does not cover: $45 profit
            Miami loses: $0 profit
            Miami wins and covers: -$28.5

            $28.5 is at risk to profit $45 basically a +158 wager

            just one way to look at it, there are other ways
            Best post in here.

            You're basically betting on Pacers to win by 1-4 at slightly modified odds. Ask yourself if you would take the bet if your bookie offered you Pacers by 1-4 at those odds.
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            • Bluehorseshoe
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 07-13-06
              • 15058

              #7
              Originally posted by dontknowtohedge
              I bet only one side and try to catch a middle at HT. That way you can ensure you won't take any size loss no matter what happens. This is assuming you can get a "good" number to middle. Often the HT line will be (too) relative to the game line.
              But you're sometimes deleting a winner by doing this.
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