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  • Ratzz
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    • 07-07-10
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    #1
    Kobe's $48.4M extension is perfect (for everyone) here's why:
    this contract extesion is perfect for everyone because it directly addresses most people's needs.


    Needs of the Kobe-tard: The die-hard Kobe-tard Laker fan needs for "Kobe to be No.1 in the NBA"*
    the silent reasoning in the subconscious of the Kobe-tard mind (KT mathematics)

    "well. since Kobe IS the HIGHEST paid player in the NBA,
    he must MUST then logically be the player with the greatest value..
    and the player with the greatest value.. MUST be the best"*


    No.1 salary = greatest value = best player

    For this kind of fan, it is better to dwell in yesterday's glory, than it is to look at today's mediocrity.
    Which is why we will doubtlessly hear M-V-P chants the very time Kobe takes a Free-Throw
    at the staples Center this season (even though he has won a single award in 17 seasons of play)


    Kobe act like a drug in the brain for the Kobe-tard. It is interesting to note, for anyone
    that has intimately known an addict.. what occurs when another tampers with their
    source of their daily fix. Almost leading the league in scoring while averaging over
    20 shots/pg can still create the sense of superiority that most naturally crave.


    Speaking for myself, i am not (at all) a Kobe-fan, i find his lack of willingness to share
    the spotlight offensive. This move keeps Kobe and the Lakers out of contention for the
    remainder of Kobe's presence on the Lakers... and beyond. After all the luxury taxes are paid,
    it should greatly restrict the Lakers, and likely will require 3-4 yrs to build a contender
    after Kobe's departure. Realistically, the true Laker fan is looking at 2018-
    or beyond before the Lakers might grace the West Conference Finals once again.


    The only person that is not served by this ridiculous transaction; is the educated
    and conscious Laker fan (there is smaller number of those). Every now a gain a
    man sits in a crack-den and says to the man passing him the crack-pipe
    "we are just wasting out time here. This cannot be the path to happiness"
    *


    The jury for the moment is out on wether this investment was in the Lakers best interest. ..
    but i can tell you for a fact, that it's going to hit the fan after Kobe comes back
    for a handful of games, and we all see what kind of player we are looking at presently,
    and how much this shackles the potential for growth in the near-future for the Lakers.


    The glory of yesterday cannot win championships today.

  • Ratzz
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    • 07-07-10
    • 8965

    #2
    incidentally, the Spurs who almost won it all last year..

    were very much helped there by Tim Duncan in the prior off-season:
    Find all the latest NBA news, live coverage, videos, highlights, stats, predictions, and results right here on NBC Sports.



    Last year,*Tim Duncan*was the third-highest paid player in the NBA at $21.5 million.
    Next season he is going to make $9.65 million.
    Three other guys on the Spurs will make more than Duncan.
    And he’s good with that. He signed a three-year deal with raises from that level.

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    • BadLuckSanta
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      • 06-30-10
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      #3
      I stopped reading here
      "well. since Kobe IS the HIGHEST paid player in the NBA,
      he must MUST then logically be the player with the greatest value..
      and the player with the greatest value.. MUST be the best"*
      Even the retard/cholo laker fans don't think like this.

      Ratzz are you a SoCal native? just wondering if you're a clipper fan/local kobe hater
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      • Menses
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        • 03-15-13
        • 2755

        #4
        Ratzz......great post. Kobe-itis is a pandemic out in LA....and with Kobe's return right around the corner, more and more new cases are being reported. The most casual fans in the NBA are Laker fans...and we know this because there are not a lot of Milwaukee Bucks jersey's out there.....Casual fans are entertained...by the showtime and the glitz of the Laker product....

        A fade away three pointer is worth more than a layup....and this is what Kobe provides....it is a win win for Kobe....the refs will hand them an 8th seed..which will have them out of the playoffs in the 1st round....Kobe will be exempt from blame...and the Gasol/Meek/Hill bashing will commence. We've seen it all before...Laker fans actually enjoy this as loosing actually helps Kobe's legacy....in their eyes...the NARRATIVE will be that Kobe is surrounded with mediocre talent....lol

        What will be interesting is the 2014/2015 free agency campaigns...Kobe may very well have an opportunity to drive YET ANOTHER free agent away from LA...Will it be Kyrie? he needs the ball in his hands..and rarely passes up a shot....Don't think that would sit to well with Kobe...Will it be Kevin Love in 2015? again, another big man that Kobe WILL NOT defer to under any circumstance...

        The Lakers organization is not about BASKETBALL...they are about KOBE...so the decisions they make are tailor made to enhance his legacy even at the expense of the competitive level of the franchise. They Chose KOBE over SHAQ......They Chose Kobe over DWIGHT....They now essentially have Chosen Kobe over 2 MAX FREE AGENTS...as they are now over the cap if they try to sign a Carmello or a Rudy Gay....at which point does the Buss family actually choose BASKETBALL over KOBE?
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        • Ratzz
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          #5
          Originally posted by Menses
          Ratzz......great post. Kobe-itis is a pandemic out in LA....and with Kobe's return right around the corner, more and more new cases are being reported. The most casual fans in the NBA are Laker fans...and we know this because there are not a lot of Milwaukee Bucks jersey's out there.....Casual fans are entertained...by the showtime and the glitz of the Laker product....

          A fade away three pointer is worth more than a layup....and this is what Kobe provides....it is a win win for Kobe....the refs will hand them an 8th seed..which will have them out of the playoffs in the 1st round....Kobe will be exempt from blame...and the Gasol/Meek/Hill bashing will commence.....we've seen it all before...Laker fans actually enjoy this as loosing actually helps Kobe's legacy....in their eyes...the NARRATIVE will be that Kobe is surrounded with mediocre talent....lol

          What will be interesting is the 2014/2015 free agency campaigns...Kobe may very well have an opportunity to drive YET ANOTHER free agent away from LA...Will it be Kyrie? he needs the ball in his hands..and rarely passes up a shot....I can't imagine that sitting well with Kobe...will it be Kevin Love in 2015? again, another big man that Kobe WILL NOT defer to under any circumstance...

          The Lakers organization is not about BASKETBALL...they are about KOBE...so the decisions they make are in tailor made to enhance his legacy even at the expense of the competitive level of the franchise. They Chose KOBE over SHAQ......They Chose Kobe over DWIGHT....They now essentially have Chosen Kobe over 2 MAX FREE AGENTS...as they are not over the cap if they try to sign a Carmello or a Rudy Gay....at which point does the Buss family actually choose BASKETBALL over KOBE?
          this is spot on.. Menses. excellent post, especially that line about Laker Organization presently not being about basketball.. it really hasn't since they traded Shaq.. it has been about feeding Kobe.. let's think about it. It took two really big men (TWO-footers to fill the void left by Shaq) one would not have made the difference.

          Shaq won a Championship without Kobe in his 2nd year away.. which is amazing.. it takes a at least 1 yr for a team to get the hang and feel for each other.. so, really he did it right away.

          It took KObe i think 7 yrs to win without Shaq... and as stated before it took huge two monsters in the middle to do it.

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          • Seto
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            #6
            You 2 truly are pretty special cases. Or one very special case, depending on what one wants to believe.
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            • innovation
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              #7
              if you had a nickel for every Laker rant.....you would be making more than Kobe
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              • Menses
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                #8
                Originally posted by Ratzz
                this is spot on.. Menses. excellent post, especially that line about Laker Organization presently not being about basketball.. it really hasn't since they traded Shaq.. it has been about feeding Kobe.. let's think about it. It took two really big men (TWO-footers to fill the void left by Shaq) one would not have made the difference.

                Shaq won a Championship without Kobe in his 2nd year away.. which is amazing.. it takes a at least 1 yr for a team to get the hang and feel for each other.. so, really he did it right away.

                It took KObe i think 7 yrs to win without Shaq... and as stated before it took huge two monsters in the middle to do it.
                I have been trying to explain this to the Kobe-TARDS for years.....Kobe Bryant has played with the two most dominant Front Courts of all time.......Shaq and then Bynum/Gasol/Odom.......when you shoot 45 percent from the field, you have to have 7 footers clean up on the offensive glass or your team is finished...This is why Gasol's two championship years are absolutely remarkable...because Kobe took almost 40 percent of the shots by himself....so Gasol had to not only rebound...but also shoot a highly efficient percentage to be effective....this is why Kobe could go 6 for 24 in Game 7....and still win.....Pau has never been given credit for that performance...Odom was phenomenal as well......
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                • hus7ler
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Menses
                  Ratzz......great post. Kobe-itis is a pandemic out in LA....and with Kobe's return right around the corner, more and more new cases are being reported. The most casual fans in the NBA are Laker fans...and we know this because there are not a lot of Milwaukee Bucks jersey's out there.....Casual fans are entertained...by the showtime and the glitz of the Laker product....

                  A fade away three pointer is worth more than a layup....and this is what Kobe provides....it is a win win for Kobe....the refs will hand them an 8th seed..which will have them out of the playoffs in the 1st round....Kobe will be exempt from blame...and the Gasol/Meek/Hill bashing will commence. We've seen it all before...Laker fans actually enjoy this as loosing actually helps Kobe's legacy....in their eyes...the NARRATIVE will be that Kobe is surrounded with mediocre talent....lol

                  What will be interesting is the 2014/2015 free agency campaigns...Kobe may very well have an opportunity to drive YET ANOTHER free agent away from LA...Will it be Kyrie? he needs the ball in his hands..and rarely passes up a shot....Don't think that would sit to well with Kobe...Will it be Kevin Love in 2015? again, another big man that Kobe WILL NOT defer to under any circumstance...

                  The Lakers organization is not about BASKETBALL...they are about KOBE...so the decisions they make are tailor made to enhance his legacy even at the expense of the competitive level of the franchise. They Chose KOBE over SHAQ......They Chose Kobe over DWIGHT....They now essentially have Chosen Kobe over 2 MAX FREE AGENTS...as they are now over the cap if they try to sign a Carmello or a Rudy Gay....at which point does the Buss family actually choose BASKETBALL over KOBE?
                  Kobe has 5 rings
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                  • hus7ler
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Menses
                    Ratzz......great post. Kobe-itis is a pandemic out in LA....and with Kobe's return right around the corner, more and more new cases are being reported. The most casual fans in the NBA are Laker fans...and we know this because there are not a lot of Milwaukee Bucks jersey's out there.....Casual fans are entertained...by the showtime and the glitz of the Laker product....

                    A fade away three pointer is worth more than a layup....and this is what Kobe provides....it is a win win for Kobe....the refs will hand them an 8th seed..which will have them out of the playoffs in the 1st round....Kobe will be exempt from blame...and the Gasol/Meek/Hill bashing will commence. We've seen it all before...Laker fans actually enjoy this as loosing actually helps Kobe's legacy....in their eyes...the NARRATIVE will be that Kobe is surrounded with mediocre talent....lol

                    What will be interesting is the 2014/2015 free agency campaigns...Kobe may very well have an opportunity to drive YET ANOTHER free agent away from LA...Will it be Kyrie? he needs the ball in his hands..and rarely passes up a shot....Don't think that would sit to well with Kobe...Will it be Kevin Love in 2015? again, another big man that Kobe WILL NOT defer to under any circumstance...

                    The Lakers organization is not about BASKETBALL...they are about KOBE...so the decisions they make are tailor made to enhance his legacy even at the expense of the competitive level of the franchise. They Chose KOBE over SHAQ......They Chose Kobe over DWIGHT....They now essentially have Chosen Kobe over 2 MAX FREE AGENTS...as they are now over the cap if they try to sign a Carmello or a Rudy Gay....at which point does the Buss family actually choose BASKETBALL over KOBE?
                    Look at MJ's Legacy at Chicago. After MJ, they didnt have didly squat till Drose came around. The Chicago fans were able to wait so long and stay faithful because MJ left such a legacy. He put them on the map and Drose, mr injury prone hopekilling black introvert crybaby, brought it back. So they know there in for a stretch of years where they will not be in championship contention. They wanna rack up championships while they're aging superstar can still dish something out.
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                    • Menses
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by hus7ler
                      Kobe has 5 rings
                      Bill Russel has 11..
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                      • Menses
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by hus7ler
                        Look at MJ's Legacy at Chicago. After MJ, they didnt have didly squat till Drose came around. The Chicago fans were able to wait so long and stay faithful because MJ left such a legacy. He put them on the map and Drose, mr injury prone hopekilling black introvert crybaby, brought it back. So they know there in for a stretch of years where they will not be in championship contention. They wanna rack up championships while they're aging superstar can still dish something out.
                        I half agree...Chicago definitely suffered after Jordan left (See Ron Mercer)...but the Bulls and Jordan had a lot of casual nba fans who jumped ship to the Lakers once Michael retired. They are loyal to winning...you will see the same thing happen after Lebron's era ends in Miami....

                        If as you say..."they want to rack up championships while their aging superstar can still dish something out"....why did the Lakers hire Mike D'antoni? instead of Phil as Howard asked of them? Why did the front office just destroy the cap space they would require in order to sign 2 MAX free agents this summer by signing Kobe to a 50 million dollar extension?...Their lucrative TV deal cannot save them from the rigid luxary tax...Just to make room for Gay or Carmello this summer...Nash, Pau, Meeks, and Farmer all have to go...thats almost the entire bench...as it stands they do not have room for a second free agent...

                        Durant comes off the books 1 year before Westbrook does..in 2015/2016....the last year of Kobe's new contract...Durant's next contract is 100 mill...without a drastic pay cut on his behalf...the Lakers have no shot....and it is quite possible Kobe resigns again...perhaps for another year at no less than 15 million...even after his contract expires...Don't really see how they compete for a championship in the immediate future without at least two blue chip prospect signings...
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                        • Goat Milk
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                          #13
                          Menses called Bynum Gasol and Odom the best front court in NBA History





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                          • hotelis
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                            #14
                            I like Menses and Ratzz.
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                            • Ratzz
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Seto
                              You 2 truly are pretty special cases. Or one very special case, depending on what one wants to believe.
                              i would like to thank you for noticing and taking the time to say so.

                              my mother used to tell me that, and now that i hear a stranger mention it to me about my ideas, i know it's true.

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                              • burkestar
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                                #16
                                another retarded kobe rant... kobe was offered 24 mil a season and merely accepted,,kobe is not killing this franchise jim buss is. This guy always needs to have it his way,,and when his way is evidently wrong he will stubbornly persist just to avoid accepting he was wrong. The guy doesnt seem to care about winning like his father did only the $$$. People seem to forget how instrumental both jerry west and jerry buss were in building and maintaining the lakers as a modern elite franchise,,case in point the night they stole kobe on draft day trading away vlade divac (a scrub by no means but was never going to bring a title to LA),,signing shaq in free agency,,,stealing pau gasol off the grizzlies (who did they trade like kwame brown lol), drafting exceptional young talent year after year ,finding great underated role players to fit into the team and bringing phil jackson in twice. Case in point of jim buss's retarded ego, phil agreed to be lakers head coach once again but buss didnt want to appear to be under the mercy of his demands so immediately gives job to d'antoni despite his complete lack of playoff success and the fact the LA personel did not fit a fast paced system at all. Another example of his ego, when la was needing a new coach after phil left kobe was keen on brian shaw but jim buss didnt want a bar of it and hired mike brown...literally nobody no matter how big or small can affect this guys opinion he is determined to do things his way and only his way and will not be at the mercy of anyone..
                                so no you cant blame kobe for this contract...yes he did take it and yes he probly should have suggested they shave off a few millions if he was serious about competing for a 6th ring but he would not have demanded it jim buss would not let him walk all other him like that
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                                • Menses
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by burkestar
                                  another retarded kobe rant... kobe was offered 24 mil a season and merely accepted,,kobe is not killing this franchise jim buss is. This guy always needs to have it his way,,and when his way is evidently wrong he will stubbornly persist just to avoid accepting he was wrong. The guy doesnt seem to care about winning like his father did only the $$$. People seem to forget how instrumental both jerry west and jerry buss were in building and maintaining the lakers as a modern elite franchise,,case in point the night they stole kobe on draft day trading away vlade divac (a scrub by no means but was never going to bring a title to LA),,signing shaq in free agency,,,stealing pau gasol off the grizzlies (who did they trade like kwame brown lol), drafting exceptional young talent year after year ,finding great underated role players to fit into the team and bringing phil jackson in twice. Case in point of jim buss's retarded ego, phil agreed to be lakers head coach once again but buss didnt want to appear to be under the mercy of his demands so immediately gives job to d'antoni despite his complete lack of playoff success and the fact the LA personel did not fit a fast paced system at all. Another example of his ego, when la was needing a new coach after phil left kobe was keen on brian shaw but jim buss didnt want a bar of it and hired mike brown...literally nobody no matter how big or small can affect this guys opinion he is determined to do things his way and only his way and will not be at the mercy of anyone..
                                  so no you cant blame kobe for this contract...yes he did take it and yes he probly should have suggested they shave off a few millions if he was serious about competing for a 6th ring but he would not have demanded it jim buss would not let him walk all other him like that
                                  I think you have been susceptible to the kind of naivety that the ESPN narrative creates when discussing Kobe Bryant. Don't fall for the Jim Buss trap...he is yet another scapegoat...in the Kobe Soap Opera. ESPN has been steadily holding Buss acountable for decisions that are largely influenced by Bryant. Do you really think Bryant wanted Phil back? After Phil was reported to be texting with Dwight back and forth? Phil has been mocking Bryant's leadership skills ever since...comparing him to Jordan to get the point across....take a guess as to why......Bryant grimaced at Mike Brown and he was fired the next day.

                                  Do you really think Jim Buss made that decision without consulting Kobe? Santa Claus is for children...and we all believed in him when we were young..but we are grown now...and we put away childish things...Don't fool yourself...Kobe has, is and will continue to call the shots in that organization..make no mistake...This is why Kobe said before the end of last season he would NOT BE TAKING A PAY CUT...at least a cut to the likes of which Duncan and Novitzki did....but this is not entirely about money. Kobe knows damn well, if he allows Buss the cap space to sign two free agents next year..he will be forced to share the ball and he is not about to do that now that he is in the twilight of his career....

                                  That is really want this contract is about...no big three in LA...just Kobe and a Luel Deng kind of free agent...who will take the backseat under a Kobe/D'antoni system.....but wait...it gets worse...because there is a lot of talk about a Durant signing in 2016...but what people forget is that Durant despises Kobe after what Kobe did to him and Westbrook during the Olympics...and god forbid Kobe decides to re-up for a third and final year for the purple and gold...Durant may very well decide to go play with his old good friend Mr James Harden........and that will likely force Stern's successor to rig the draft and call in a favor to get Parker and Wiggins Traded to LA to set things up for 2020....
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                                  • GoBlue77
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by innovation
                                    if you had a nickel for every Laker rant.....you would be making more than Kobe
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                                    • Git Lo
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                                      #19
                                      What did Kobe do to Westbrook and KD?
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                                      • jsmithj88
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by burkestar
                                        another retarded kobe rant... kobe was offered 24 mil a season and merely accepted,,kobe is not killing this franchise jim buss is. This guy always needs to have it his way,,and when his way is evidently wrong he will stubbornly persist just to avoid accepting he was wrong. The guy doesnt seem to care about winning like his father did only the $$$. People seem to forget how instrumental both jerry west and jerry buss were in building and maintaining the lakers as a modern elite franchise,,case in point the night they stole kobe on draft day trading away vlade divac (a scrub by no means but was never going to bring a title to LA),,signing shaq in free agency,,,stealing pau gasol off the grizzlies (who did they trade like kwame brown lol), drafting exceptional young talent year after year ,finding great underated role players to fit into the team and bringing phil jackson in twice. Case in point of jim buss's retarded ego, phil agreed to be lakers head coach once again but buss didnt want to appear to be under the mercy of his demands so immediately gives job to d'antoni despite his complete lack of playoff success and the fact the LA personel did not fit a fast paced system at all. Another example of his ego, when la was needing a new coach after phil left kobe was keen on brian shaw but jim buss didnt want a bar of it and hired mike brown...literally nobody no matter how big or small can affect this guys opinion he is determined to do things his way and only his way and will not be at the mercy of anyone..
                                        so no you cant blame kobe for this contract...yes he did take it and yes he probly should have suggested they shave off a few millions if he was serious about competing for a 6th ring but he would not have demanded it jim buss would not let him walk all other him like that
                                        this is a pretty ridiculous rant
                                        and u concluded that kobe is not serious about winning a 6th title, haha
                                        if kobe wanted to take a million dollars, jim buss would have no problem with it
                                        to say that jim buss demanded kobe take 24 millions and only 24 million is DUMB
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                                        • burkestar
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by jsmithj88
                                          this is a pretty ridiculous rant
                                          and u concluded that kobe is not serious about winning a 6th title, haha
                                          if kobe wanted to take a million dollars, jim buss would have no problem with it
                                          to say that jim buss demanded kobe take 24 millions and only 24 million is DUMB
                                          fair enough, i could care less if he is or isnt serious about winning a title i just have respect for him as a player(not the greatest leader yes),,but all you guys are missing my point,,which was how good the combo of jerry bus and jerry west were in running this franchise and how incompetent jim has been to date,,i mean do you really think either of those guys would hire mike dantoni of all people...i think its no surprise jerry Wests involvement in the Warriors is leading to vast improvement from that franchise and he also turned the grizzlies from a basket case team waiting to be sold into a regular playoff team.

                                          all these dudes were alluding to some kind of kobe conspiracy where he secretly demanded this contract to ensure that he never has to share the basketball and ensure that no1 of immense talent will be around him like wtf is that taking the piss much

                                          all im saying is from what ive seen so far jim has a massive ego and is content with runnning a semi successful franchise that will provide him persistent $$$, where as his predecessors had persistent determination, motivation and drive to not just be successful but be the best can u seriously disagree with that?

                                          and to menses u made some insightful comments and maybe i was a bit nieve with some comments and for that i thank you homie but then you blabbed on about durant coming to LA? and the draft/nba being rigged for the lakers and other nonsesnse which tells me you need to layoff the weed because you are living in a pipe dream my friend
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                                          • jsmithj88
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by burkestar
                                            fair enough, i could care less if he is or isnt serious about winning a title i just have respect for him as a player(not the greatest leader yes),,but all you guys are missing my point,,which was how good the combo of jerry bus and jerry west were in running this franchise and how incompetent jim has been to date,,i mean do you really think either of those guys would hire mike dantoni of all people...i think its no surprise jerry Wests involvement in the Warriors is leading to vast improvement from that franchise and he also turned the grizzlies from a basket case team waiting to be sold into a regular playoff team.

                                            all these dudes were alluding to some kind of kobe conspiracy where he secretly demanded this contract to ensure that he never has to share the basketball and ensure that no1 of immense talent will be around him like wtf is that taking the piss much

                                            all im saying is from what ive seen so far jim has a massive ego and is content with runnning a semi successful franchise that will provide him persistent $$$, where as his predecessors had persistent determination, motivation and drive to not just be successful but be the best can u seriously disagree with that?

                                            and to menses u made some insightful comments and maybe i was a bit nieve with some comments and for that i thank you homie but then you blabbed on about durant coming to LA? and the draft/nba being rigged for the lakers and other nonsesnse which tells me you need to layoff the weed because you are living in a pipe dream my friend
                                            no i do not agree with that
                                            lakers should represent winning, not profit margins
                                            jim buss is just incompetent, not a profit monger
                                            no real superstar is coming to the lakers because jim buss is an idiot
                                            no real superstar is coming to the lakers because kobe is still there

                                            the purpose of this thread was to show u that jim buss has no idea how to run a team
                                            and kobe values his ego above chasing a title
                                            think about it, kobe took a paycut from being the highest paid player to and still remained the highest
                                            hes far from the best player, keeping him at the top is nothing more than an ego booster
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                                            • Seto
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Ratzz
                                              i would like to thank you for noticing and taking the time to say so.

                                              my mother used to tell me that, and now that i hear a stranger mention it to me about my ideas, i know it's true.
                                              apparently i'm not allowed to give u pts. this still made me laugh lol
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                                              • Menses
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Git Lo
                                                What did Kobe do to Westbrook and KD?
                                                At the 2012 Olympics during practice, shortly after the annoucement of the Dwight Howard trade to LA, Kobe walked up to Durant and Westbrook and told them their team was now irrelevant in the Western Conference and how the Lakers were going to smash them....

                                                Durant drop 42 on Kobe the first game between the two teams last season....lol...
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                                                • Menses
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by burkestar
                                                  fair enough, i could care less if he is or isnt serious about winning a title i just have respect for him as a player(not the greatest leader yes),,but all you guys are missing my point,,which was how good the combo of jerry bus and jerry west were in running this franchise and how incompetent jim has been to date,,i mean do you really think either of those guys would hire mike dantoni of all people...i think its no surprise jerry Wests involvement in the Warriors is leading to vast improvement from that franchise and he also turned the grizzlies from a basket case team waiting to be sold into a regular playoff team.

                                                  all these dudes were alluding to some kind of kobe conspiracy where he secretly demanded this contract to ensure that he never has to share the basketball and ensure that no1 of immense talent will be around him like wtf is that taking the piss much

                                                  all im saying is from what ive seen so far jim has a massive ego and is content with runnning a semi successful franchise that will provide him persistent $$$, where as his predecessors had persistent determination, motivation and drive to not just be successful but be the best can u seriously disagree with that?

                                                  and to menses u made some insightful comments and maybe i was a bit nieve with some comments and for that i thank you homie but then you blabbed on about durant coming to LA? and the draft/nba being rigged for the lakers and other nonsesnse which tells me you need to layoff the weed because you are living in a pipe dream my friend

                                                  There is a growing contingent of fans who now believe that Buss is actually focussing more on 2016...and this is the reason he has chosen to only allow himself the opportunity to sign 1 big free agent plus Kobe this Summer...and then go for broke the next year....Durant is believed to be the big prize come 2016..Durant is the only guy that can save the Laker franchise at this point.....Remember, the Lakers think in 5 year blocks...

                                                  Jerry West was looking at Shaq for 4 years before that signing in 1996....Buss is obviously thinking about the future...but its a huge risk...Durant may resign with OKC...if he leaves, he may consider playing with Harden...he despises Kobe...and it is not likely he comes here with Kobe still in charge...Buss is gambling...like he did with Dwight...if Kobe is truly done in after the 2 years....skys the limit....but if that dude resigns...lmao....
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