2013/14 NBA Thread

**Seto** · 04-10-14, 10:03 PM

Raptors-5 -110 (bet365) (risking 7.7x to win 7x)
Raptors-11 +225 (bet365) (risking 1x to win 2.25x)

The Knicks' joke of a season ends tomorrow and Toronto clinches the division in style.

Locking this in early because there's a possibility Melo sits out and I don't wanna wake up and see tor-7.

For those who care this isn't a knee-jerk bet at all I'd been eyeing this one for a day or so now. If I do make a dumb knee-jerk bet it will be live on the Nuggets/Warriors game but I'm trying not to even watch.

**Seto** · 04-10-14, 10:04 PM

Originally posted by KRIT

Im pretty bad at making lines, so maybe your right. We did just see Grizz at -5 against Miami yday though. Don't see why Mavs couldn't have been more than -2. Tough loss, NBA is brutal last week before playoffs. Playoffs need to come sooner.

Maybe you're right I don't see it that way myself but I could be wrong.

Last year NBA was a cash cow the last week. All you had to do was bet the Lakers every game, then add some on the 2nd half. lol.

**Seto** · 04-10-14, 10:07 PM

Originally posted by DOM-Ganador

FKKKIN ` Spurs man. I believe I am 0-6 betting last month on their games.
I like them as an organisation, like their players and actually played with 1 of the assistent coaches.
I am done putting any $ on any series, or games they are involved in. BR Killers.

Yeah they've not been kind to me of late.

The funny thing is in January or so a guy was asking me for a few pointers on betting the NBA and one of the things I told him was:

"No matter how sharp or smart it may look, never, EVER fade the Spurs except against another elite team."

Look at me now. I've faded them against the Kings, Warriors (x2), Nuggets, Wolves, and Mavs. Only won once.

Oh, and I also faded them against OKC for an easy win. But that was v an elite team.

Gotta take my own advice ffs. What a fukking dumbfukk I can be.

**Seto** · 04-10-14, 10:08 PM

Suns v Spurs tomorrow. I feel like putting money on the Suns just to make them lose

**WalkingLuckCharm** · 04-11-14, 01:54 AM

Melo will not sit out brother if you haven't hit It yet wait till it goes down to 4 or 4.5. Hope you are well

**ithinkiamgood** · 04-11-14, 01:57 AM

Originally posted by Seto

Suns v Spurs tomorrow. I feel like putting money on the Suns just to make them lose

Suns aren't losing lock that shit up and throw away the key...Gerald Green says hi

**Seto** · 04-11-14, 10:30 AM

Originally posted by WalkingLuckCharm

Melo will not sit out brother if you haven't hit It yet wait till it goes down to 4 or 4.5. Hope you are well

I doubt it too but you never know. I doubt it moves down.

**Seto** · 04-11-14, 10:31 AM

Why are the Spurs-2.5? Is Pop resting the entire team or something? Surely nothing more than Duncan and Manu?

**Vinnie Paz** · 04-11-14, 10:43 AM

Rockets -2 seem low or that's just me?

**Seto** · 04-11-14, 10:56 AM

Originally posted by Vinnie Paz

Rockets -2 seem low or that's just me?

They were also a pretty puzzling -1.5 in Denver a couple nights ago and lost...

Maybe books know they are laying down for the rest of the year with #4 all but locked up? I think their starters didn't play in the 4th in Denver.

**Seto** · 04-11-14, 12:51 PM

Pacers+6.5 -105 (5dimes) (risking 3.15x to win 3x)
Pacers ml +248 (5dimes) (risking 1x to win 2.48x)

**Seto** · 04-11-14, 09:29 PM

Today: 0-4, -12.85x
Total: 218-259-8, +33.15x

Some idea I had to take my units back up lol. Pre-game burial continues.

However for those who care I did bail myself out with this play:

Bulls down 18 at half to the Pistons was a fukking gift from the heavens. lol.

**KRIT** · 04-11-14, 09:51 PM

Originally posted by Seto

Today: 0-4, -12.85x
Total: 218-259-8, +33.15x

Some idea I had to take my units back up lol. Pre-game burial continues.

However for those who care I did bail myself out with this play:

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Bulls down 18 at half to the Pistons was a fukking gift from the heavens. lol.

Nice one. You can always count on the Pistons for an epic collapse.

**Seto** · 04-11-14, 09:55 PM

Originally posted by KRIT

Nice one. You can always count on the Pistons for an epic collapse.

Yeah it was just the perfect setup. Team that never gives up v the worst team at holding a lead in the nba.

I wouldn't have wanted to be in that Bulls locker room at the half. Thibs musta been like

Suns lose. Today is a good day.

**Seto** · 04-12-14, 06:51 PM

Lakers+12 -105 (pinnacle) (risking 1.05x to win 1x)

**Seto** · 04-15-14, 06:16 PM

13th: 0-0-1, 0.00x
Total: 218-259-9, +33.15x

Not sure if I'm touching tomorrow's card or not. Definitely looking forward to Saturday.

**t-wizzle** · 04-15-14, 07:06 PM

Are you passing on tonight's games??

**Seto** · 04-15-14, 07:33 PM

Originally posted by t-wizzle

Are you passing on tonight's games??

I give up on betting the knicks games one way or the other.

Not sure about the late game. Spread looks a little lower than I thought even though denver has been decent enough of late.

**KRIT** · 04-15-14, 07:59 PM

Mavs won't rest tomorrow will they? Wouldn't Mem and Dal rather play OKC than Spurs?

Haha I use you as my Mavs insider. Probably will be dropping by on the regular during playoffs as long as Mavs are still in it.

**NBA Maniac** · 04-15-14, 08:04 PM

every1 with scare of Spurs just because their record on regular season ??
i believe OKC is far more dangerouse

**KRIT** · 04-15-14, 08:14 PM

Originally posted by NBA Maniac

every1 with scare of Spurs just because their record on regular season ??
i believe OKC is far more dangerouse

As far as I know, Mavs matchup horrible with Spurs. I think they are 0-8 vs Spurs last two years.

Grizzlies i'm not sure. I do know Grizz got swept by Spurs last year, so I'd guess they would prefer OKC.

If this is true, then we may have a meaningful NBA game tomorrow.

**Seto** · 04-15-14, 08:34 PM

Originally posted by KRIT

Mavs won't rest tomorrow will they? Wouldn't Mem and Dal rather play OKC than Spurs?

Haha I use you as my Mavs insider. Probably will be dropping by on the regular during playoffs as long as Mavs are still in it.

I don't think ether team will rest. Mavs have lost 9 straight to the Spurs, 7 straight on the road to the Spurs (5 of the 7 losses by 12, 22, 17, 38, and 22). So yeah, they don't want to see the Spurs at all. Spurs know how to expose the Mavs' defensive flaws and have their best players (Parker, Duncan) at positions the Mavs can't defend. W/ OKC, you can put (an albeit declining) Marion on Durant and live with the results.

Grizz got swept by the Spurs in this year's season series and in the playoffs last year so that's a minimum of 8 straight losses. Doubt they want SA either.

It's the most meaningful game on the board but keep an eye out for the Washington and Charlotte games. Guarantee you neither of these teams wants Miami in the 1st round so they should both be all out for Ws.

**Seto** · 04-15-14, 08:36 PM

Originally posted by NBA Maniac

every1 with scare of Spurs just because their record on regular season ??
i believe OKC is far more dangerouse

OKC is my pick to win the West (albeit a "forced" pick as in if i HAD to choose, cause trust me I have no fukking clue as of now and definitely won't be betting any futures for now) but as far as matching up with the Mavs, I'd take playing OKC over playing the Spurs each and every day of the week.

**Seto** · 04-15-14, 08:39 PM

Also keep in mind Mavs haven't played since Saturday and the playoffs don't start til next Saturday or Sunday. A week w/o playing can cause guys to lose their rhythm so I doubt anyone will be resting completely, maybe just limited minutes for a few guys (obvious candidates: Dirk, Carter, Marion)

**KRIT** · 04-15-14, 09:02 PM

I know you're not a stastistic database, but do you know if there is any chance Mavs or Grizz could move up to 6th seed if GS loses tomorrow to Denver? GS is one game ahead of Dal and Mem.

**NBA Maniac** · 04-15-14, 09:07 PM

Originally posted by KRIT

I know you're not a stastistic database, but do you know if there is any chance Mavs or Grizz could move up to 6th seed if GS loses tomorrow to Denver? GS is one game ahead of Dal and Mem.

GSW (2-2) vs Memphis
GSW (3-1) vs Dallas
Dallas (3-0) vs Memphis (still 1 game left on this series)

So this means GSW have the tie breaker against both teams

**Seto** · 04-15-14, 09:08 PM

Originally posted by KRIT

I know you're not a stastistic database, but do you know if there is any chance Mavs or Grizz could move up to 6th seed if GS loses tomorrow to Denver? GS is one game ahead of Dal and Mem.

No both lost the season series to GS. Warriors are locked into #6.

**Seto** · 04-15-14, 09:16 PM

Oops I somehow thought the warriors had won the series v memphis? Now that I think about it I clearly remember the 2 mem wins, lol whatever.

But yeah warriors have a 5-3 rec in the games between the 3 tms, dallas 4-3 and memphis 2-5, if mavs win and move to 5-3 it probably goes to that 3-1 season series for the warriors over the mavs.

Anyway everything I've read for the past day has had the warriors locked into 6 so everyone can't be wrong I guess.

**NBA Maniac** · 04-15-14, 09:26 PM

Originally posted by Seto

Oops I somehow thought the warriors had won the series v memphis? Now that I think about it I clearly remember the 2 mem wins, lol whatever.

But yeah warriors have a 5-3 rec in the games between the 3 tms, dallas 4-3 and memphis 2-5, if mavs win and move to 5-3 it probably goes to that 3-1 season series for the warriors over the mavs.

Anyway everything I've read for the past day has had the warriors locked into 6 so everyone can't be wrong I guess.

GSW have tiebreaker vs Memphis, because of gsw position in the division

**Seto** · 04-15-14, 09:32 PM

Originally posted by NBA Maniac

GSW have tiebreaker vs Memphis, because of gsw position in the division

Division records don't matter if teams aren't from the same division I think.

**NBA Maniac** · 04-15-14, 09:36 PM

Originally posted by Seto

Division records don't matter if teams aren't from the same division I think.

so how do you do the tie breaker between gsw and Memphis if they end up with same W/L ?

**NBA Maniac** · 04-15-14, 09:37 PM

I just googled it:

Two-team tiebreaker:

Division winner (this criterion is applied regardless of whether the tied teams are in the same division)
Better record in head-to-head games
Higher winning percentage within division (if teams are in the same division)
Higher winning percentage in conference games
Higher winning percentage against playoff teams in own conference (including tied teams)
Higher winning percentage against playoff teams in opposite conference (including tied teams)

Three-team tiebreaker:

Division winner (this criterion is applied regardless of whether the tied teams are in the same division)
Best head-to-head winning percentage among all teams tied
Highest winning percentage within division (if all tied teams are in the same division)
Highest winning percentage in conference games
Highest winning percentage against playoff teams in own conference (including tied teams)
Highest point differential between points scored and points allowed

**Seto** · 04-15-14, 09:40 PM

Originally posted by NBA Maniac

so how do you do the tie breaker between gsw and Memphis if they end up with same W/L ?

Conference records.

**Seto** · 04-15-14, 09:41 PM

Originally posted by NBA Maniac

I just googled it:

Two-team tiebreaker:

Division winner (this criterion is applied regardless of whether the tied teams are in the same division)
Better record in head-to-head games
Higher winning percentage within division (if teams are in the same division)
Higher winning percentage in conference games
Higher winning percentage against playoff teams in own conference (including tied teams)
Higher winning percentage against playoff teams in opposite conference (including tied teams)

Three-team tiebreaker:

Division winner (this criterion is applied regardless of whether the tied teams are in the same division)
Best head-to-head winning percentage among all teams tied
Highest winning percentage within division (if all tied teams are in the same division)
Highest winning percentage in conference games
Highest winning percentage against playoff teams in own conference (including tied teams)
Highest point differential between points scored and points allowed

Yeah that's what I thought

**KRIT** · 04-15-14, 10:01 PM

Thanks Seto, Thanks Maniac.