John Morrison 2013-14 NBA Thread

**Wallco99** · 12-21-13, 12:57 PM

Wallco NBA Chase 110
2013-14 System to Date: 23-2 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: -16.21 units (fin. series)
Current open series: 1 (-4.04 units)

(12/20/13):
#26 Philadelphia (+6) (A) - Win

v1 Plays
(A) 16-10
(B) 5-4
(C) 1-3
(D) 1-2
Losses: NYK (-18.45 u), MIL (-20.76 u)

Games for (12/21/13):
#24 Memphis (+3) @ N.Y. Knicks (C) (12:05 pm EST)
#27 New Orleans (+9) @ Portland (A) (10:05 pm EST) **
#28 Sacramento (+3) @ Orlando (A) (7:05 pm EST) **

** Sacramento and New Orleans face each other in their respective (B) bets.

We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-½) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day if the lines do change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post.
System rules and backtest can be found in posts #44 & #45.

Note: The lines I have listed were the current lines at the time of my post and may not reflect the final lines used to determine wins & losses.

**imotiv8** · 12-21-13, 01:14 PM

Sacramento & New Orleans can also be seen as (D) bets for Morrison...dont have the data for this but the percentages are usually high to cover after C loss

**Wallco99** · 12-21-13, 01:31 PM

Originally posted by imotiv8

Sacramento & New Orleans can also be seen as (D) bets for Morrison...dont have the data for this but the percentages are usually high to cover after C loss

That would be a pretty tough one to pull the trigger on with these two lousy squads.

**imotiv8** · 12-21-13, 01:42 PM

I agree. I just wouldn't be surprised to see 2 easy ones. btw-sac is playing Orlando

**Kev the Brit** · 12-21-13, 03:56 PM

For me, the best way to recover from a V1 loss (Sacramento in this case) is to target 5 units per team in the 5 following V1 series. It has to be V1 only. There might be the occasional C Bet, but it has always worked for me.

**Boyne** · 12-21-13, 04:47 PM

Up until this year (from memory) I'd tend to agree with Kev. I'd figured out that to JM, V1 was the original 'real' successful system and V2 and 3 were merely add-ons that he came up with to sell to all the mugs and give more cash to his new friends, the bookies. The problem is that this year, 2 out of 5 of the systems (1-7/5) series losses have been V1. I sincerely hope this is just a blip as, for the reasons above, I've been staking higher on V1 than on the others.

Anyway, as before, keep the faith.

**Boyne** · 12-21-13, 04:52 PM

Originally posted by booble

i bought that morrison guy's nba/mlb lifetime package a couple years ago...then he stopped sending me picks after i refuse to buy his v1 package, v2 package, v3,v4,buffet, etc.....
this guy is a thief......
and his +3 pts system kills the balance...

This, booble, is an experience that the vast majority of posters/readers on this thread will be all too familiar with. That is the reason why this thread exists. Some good people have taken Morrison's work, modified it, improved it, shown how it's done and don't spread lies and false hope. Just take a deep breath and keep reading. Most of the answers to most of your questions will be in here somewhere.

**Andy3568** · 12-21-13, 10:00 PM

Actually, I thought that since New Orleans' series ended before Sacramento's series, that would mean postpone Sacramento, but kudos to those who didn't.

**Wallco99** · 12-21-13, 11:37 PM

Originally posted by Andy3568

Actually, I thought that since New Orleans' series ended before Sacramento's series, that would mean postpone Sacramento, but kudos to those who didn't.

Games would have had to start at same time for that. Sacramento series started first, so it got played. Since they won, New Orleans gets played out. Had they lost, New Orleans may have been suspended til Sacramento series concluded.

**Andy3568** · 12-22-13, 01:00 AM

Originally posted by Wallco99

Games would have had to start at same time for that. Sacramento series started first, so it got played. Since they won, New Orleans gets played out. Had they lost, New Orleans may have been suspended til Sacramento series concluded.

You're right. I assumed that starting on the same date = starting at the same time. I didn't take into account starting on the same day but at an earlier time.

**knugen** · 12-22-13, 03:31 AM

Originally posted by Kev the Brit

For me, the best way to recover from a V1 loss (Sacramento in this case) is to target 5 units per team in the 5 following V1 series. It has to be V1 only. There might be the occasional C Bet, but it has always worked for me.

Hon du you mean? Do you play 5 - 12 - 10 series?

**Kev the Brit** · 12-22-13, 05:54 AM

Originally posted by knugen

Hon du you mean? Do you play 5 - 12 - 10 series?

Sorry, no. I should have said that it applies only to the Currently Published Morrison System Version 1. Play to win 5 units A-C over 5 series. Gross return 25, deduct lost 22 units (approx) and you have recovered the loss and maintained 1 unit profit per series.

**Kev the Brit** · 12-22-13, 06:03 AM

Originally posted by Boyne

Up until this year (from memory) I'd tend to agree with Kev. I'd figured out that to JM, V1 was the original 'real' successful system and V2 and 3 were merely add-ons that he came up with to sell to all the mugs and give more cash to his new friends, the bookies. The problem is that this year, 2 out of 5 of the systems (1-7/5) series losses have been V1. I sincerely hope this is just a blip as, for the reasons above, I've been staking higher on V1 than on the others.

Anyway, as before, keep the faith.

Boyne, I would disagree that 2 series losses have been V1. I should have said that "V1" refers to the Currently Published system and therefore Utah (lost series in 1-7-5 system) was filtered out as the worst road team. So, its only Sacramento that have lost this year, so far. My next post will explain how to recover from Sacramento's lost series.

**Kev the Brit** · 12-22-13, 08:29 AM

Morrison System Recovery Plan

Hi Guys,

Take this or leave it; your choice.

Backgound
The original Morrison (3 point buy) system is now known as Version 1. It comes with a "pedigree" of solid back testing and filters that have reduced losses to an absolute minimum (av 1 per season) when all the filters are applied. Consequently, the average number of playable V1 series per season is only approx 70-80 and quite boring. Consequently, Morrison, playing on the gambler's vulnerable need for more action, created V2 and V3, and therefore fed our need for that action, with approx 150 series per season. However, he did not produce any official back testing of the two new versions with filters, so we are at greater risk when we play them. I know that some people here have produced back tests of point buying on V1 and V2 systems, but the data for those back tests cannot include the worst road team standing and injured player filters in hindsight. Consequently, it is only the trumpeted V1 that has any reliability within the Morrison point-buy systems. Therefore, we can use the data to best effect whenever a V1 series fails, as Sacramento just did. Historically, the V1 point buy system, when played exactly as per the pdf, fails only very rarely and so we can hit the bookies big for a short while after a loss, before the next loss comes along. I have done this every year since I've been playing Morrison.

#47 Sacramento has just lost us 23 units. Here's what you can do if you want to recover that lost money:

The next V1 series after Sacramento was #48 Toronto, but they tipped off before the Sac result came in, so we couldn't load up on them. Toronto won 1 unit.

Recovery Schedule:
Morrison Currently Published System Version 1 - Bet to win 5 units per series:
Apply all published filters. 3 point buy all plays, except when clear fav* - play ML
12/25: #51. Miami.
12/28: #52. Philadelphia: NO PLAY (worst road team)
12/29: #57. Golden State
12/30: #58. Charlotte (Only playable if they lose on 12/28/13 by more than 3 ATS)
12/31: #59. Milwaukee
1/3: #62. New Orleans (Only playable if they lose on 1/1 by more than 3 ATS)

If Required (due to any filters applied above):
1/5: #64. Boston
1/6: #65. Orlando

* Clear fav: when the team is -3 ATS or greater, play the ML

I will highlight the above plays when they arise in my daily posts.

Regards
Kev

**Wallco99** · 12-22-13, 09:24 AM

JM 1-7-5 Bonus Play for v1

Philadelphia lost their v2 (A) game by more than 3 points to the spread. Their next game (12/28/13) will be a v1 (A) bet as well as a v2 (B) bet, since their next three games are on the road and in-conference. This applies to the 1-7-5 bet strategy since worst road team filter is not recognized and ALL series get played out.

**Wallco99** · 12-22-13, 10:00 AM

Originally posted by Kev the Brit

Hi Guys,

Take this or leave it; your choice.

Backgound
The original Morrison (3 point buy) system is now known as Version 1. It comes with a "pedigree" of solid back testing and filters that have reduced losses to an absolute minimum (av 1 per season) when all the filters are applied. Consequently, the average number of playable V1 series per season is only approx 70-80 and quite boring. Consequently, Morrison, playing on the gambler's vulnerable need for more action, created V2 and V3, and therefore fed our need for that action, with approx 150 series per season. However, he did not produce any official back testing of the two new versions with filters, so we are at greater risk when we play them. I know that some people here have produced back tests of point buying on V1 and V2 systems, but the data for those back tests cannot include the worst road team standing and injured player filters in hindsight. Consequently, it is only the trumpeted V1 that has any reliability within the Morrison point-buy systems. Therefore, we can use the data to best effect whenever a V1 series fails, as Sacramento just did. Historically, the V1 point buy system, when played exactly as per the pdf, fails only very rarely and so we can hit the bookies big for a short while after a loss, before the next loss comes along. I have done this every year since I've been playing Morrison.

#47 Sacramento has just lost us 23 units. Here's what you can do if you want to recover that lost money:

The next V1 series after Sacramento was #48 Toronto, but they tipped off before the Sac result came in, so we couldn't load up on them. Toronto won 1 unit.

Recovery Schedule:
Morrison Currently Published System Version 1 - Bet to win 5 units per series:
Apply all published filters. 3 point buy all plays, except when clear fav* - play ML
12/28: #52. Philadelphia: NO PLAY (worst road team)
12/29: #57. Golden State
12/30: #58. Charlotte (Only playable if they lose on 12/28/13 by more than 3 ATS)
12/31: #59. Milwaukee
1/3: #62. New Orleans (Only playable if they lose on 1/1 by more than 3 ATS)
1/5: #64. Boston

If Required (due to any filters applied above):
1/6: #65. Orlando
1/10: #71. Houston

* Clear fav: when the team is -3 ATS or greater, play the ML

I will highlight the above plays when they arise in my daily posts.

Regards
Kev

Did you skip Miami for some reason? They are a v1 play on 12/25/13 and they are not on your list above.

**knugen** · 12-22-13, 10:04 AM

Originally posted by Wallco99

JM 1-7-5 Bonus Play for v1

Philadelphia lost their v2 (A) game by more than 3 points to the spread. Their next game (12/28/13) will be a v1 (A) bet as well as a v2 (B) bet, since their next three games are on the road and in-conference. This applies to the 1-7-5 bet strategy since worst road team filter is not recognized and ALL series get played out.

nice.. so we bet to win 8 units on that game?

**Boyne** · 12-22-13, 10:39 AM

Originally posted by Kev the Brit

Boyne, I would disagree that 2 series losses have been V1. I should have said that "V1" refers to the Currently Published system and therefore Utah (lost series in 1-7-5 system) was filtered out as the worst road team. So, its only Sacramento that have lost this year, so far. My next post will explain how to recover from Sacramento's lost series.

Ahh! I forgot about the filters. Reason being I don't use any of them when playing 1-7/5, not the +3, not the buying '3'. not anything else. I'm hard, me. Jeez, this is complicated....

**Wallco99** · 12-22-13, 10:46 AM

Wallco NBA Chase 110
2013-14 System to Date: 26-2 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: -13.21 units (fin. series)
Current open series: 0

(12/21/13):
#24 Memphis (+3) (C) - Win
#27 New Orleans (+9) (A) - Win
#28 Sacramento (+3) (A) - Win

v1 Plays
(A) 18-10
(B) 5-5
(C) 2-3
(D) 1-2
Losses: NYK (-18.45 u), MIL (-20.76 u)

There are no system plays for (12/22/13)

We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-½) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day if the lines do change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post.
System rules and backtest can be found in posts #44 & #45.

**Wallco99** · 12-22-13, 10:50 AM

Originally posted by knugen

nice.. so we bet to win 8 units on that game?

Yes, two seperate chases.

**BCC585** · 12-22-13, 10:57 AM

woah, no system plays between NHL and the NBA.
starting to feel the itch...

**Wallco99** · 12-22-13, 11:06 AM

Originally posted by BCC585

woah, no system plays between NHL and the NBA.
starting to feel the itch...

Four NHL plays for tomorrow.

**Kev the Brit** · 12-22-13, 11:50 AM

Originally posted by Wallco99

Did you skip Miami for some reason? They are a v1 play on 12/25/13 and they are not on your list above.

Thanks for the post. It was a simple error, which has now been corrected.

**Kev the Brit** · 12-22-13, 01:05 PM

Morrison 12/21 Results & 12/22 Plays

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**Kev the Brit** · 12-22-13, 01:06 PM

Morrison Results & Profit/Loss Statement to Date: 11/1 - 12/21

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**thelimit0310** · 12-22-13, 05:07 PM

Got to say I'm loving this thread at the moment. So much better than past years, I haven't checked, but I believe at this time last year we had over twice as many pages.

Thanks for the notice on philly Wallco!

**Wallco99** · 12-22-13, 05:12 PM

Originally posted by thelimit0310

Got to say I'm loving this thread at the moment. So much better than past years, I haven't checked, but I believe at this time last year we had over twice as many pages.

Thanks for the notice on philly Wallco!

No problem, glad to help. Don't forget, JMD finally went away which may explain a lot fewer pages to this point.

**knugen** · 12-23-13, 12:49 AM

Kev the Brit. I PM:d you. Pleas respond. Thanks

**Kev the Brit** · 12-23-13, 04:50 AM

Originally posted by thelimit0310

Got to say I'm loving this thread at the moment. So much better than past years, I haven't checked, but I believe at this time last year we had over twice as many pages.

Thanks for the notice on philly Wallco!

I am hoping that my daily post, and that from Wallco with the Chase 110, caters for the regulars, who know the systems and only ask intelligent questions and help me along, while also providing information for passing visitors who only know about the pdf's and only use them. Consequently, we have a tidy thread......so far

**Kev the Brit** · 12-23-13, 04:59 AM

Morrison 12/22 Results & 12/23 Plays

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**Wallco99** · 12-23-13, 05:28 AM

Wallco NBA Chase 110
2013-14 System to Date: 26-2 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: -13.21 units (fin. series)
Current open series: 0

v1 Plays
(A) 16-10
(B) 5-4
(C) 1-3
(D) 1-2
Losses: NYK (-18.45 u), MIL (-20.76 u)

Games for (12/23/13):
#29 Golden State @ Denver (+1½) (A) (9:05 pm EST)

We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-½) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day if the lines do change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post.
System rules and backtest can be found in posts #44 & #45.

Note: The lines I have listed were the current lines at the time of my post and may not reflect the final lines used to determine wins & losses.

**jcygts6** · 12-23-13, 11:38 PM

thanks... miami should dominate

**Mrscofield25** · 12-24-13, 02:07 AM

Merry christmas everyone.

**Wallco99** · 12-24-13, 05:51 AM

No NBA plays today. Full Chase 110 update later today.

**Kev the Brit** · 12-24-13, 08:23 AM

Morrison 12/23 Results & 12/24 Plays

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