SBR Videos: SweetJones55's 2014 NBA Finals Futures Value Prediction and Interview

[BiTeMe UsAdOj]

Loshak in deep shit here

Are they partners ?

Yeah... WTF is Loshak's damage pimpin this dishonest hustla?

Continues to ignore Rudy's direct question re: Shari outting his dishonesty

Hey Loshak, if you're THAT hard-up trying to film segments and are scramblin for anything, why not ring me up and we can discuss how after *every* new release of a Bang Bros F*ck Team 5 episode, NFL road dogs cover ATS

And I'll wait to tell ya LIVE on-air what trends in NBA when Asa Akira goes air-tight.

Call me...

[raydog]

About 40% of my clients are overseas and many play at Pinnacle.





My WNBA Lifetime Win Rate is 60%, a higher win rate than RAS who doesn't even sell WNBA picks anymore. I don't know where you are getting the 50% number from.

whats your current wnba record for the season?... please dear mother of god do not ever, at any sport, compare yourself to RAS.... Edward bets everywhere he can and what he can... his crew is the absolute best at what they do... there is no gut guessing....every book subscribes to ras and moves upon his release, doesnt matter if its being sold or not, they move lines when he bets... you have put out only a few years and small sample worth and you sound fukking ridiculous if you say you arent chasing steam...its beyond obvious in your plays.. 90% beating closers? if thats even remotely possible, its ONLY by modeling and/or chasing steam... jesus , kid, who the fukk do you think you are talking to here???

beat 90% closers... gahdamn... i tried to just leave it be... now you are just making a complete moron out of yourself.

[sweetjones55]

whats your current wnba record for the season?... please dear mother of god do not ever, at any sport, compare yourself to RAS.... Edward bets everywhere he can and what he can... his crew is the absolute best at what they do... there is no gut guessing....every book subscribes to ras and moves upon his release, doesnt matter if its being sold or not, they move lines when he bets... you have put out only a few years and small sample worth and you sound fukking ridiculous if you say you arent chasing steam...its beyond obvious in your plays.. 90% beating closers? if thats even remotely possible, its ONLY by modeling and/or chasing steam... jesus , kid, who the fukk do you think you are talking to here???

beat 90% closers... gahdamn... i tried to just leave it be... now you are just making a complete moron out of yourself.

I respect RAS and his service and to be honest I've modeled my service after his and the way they do things. I've even gone as far as to contact him and I let him know that directly. I am only stating the facts/numbers. His WNBA win rate is 56%. I am 53-35 hitting 60.2% lifetime. I am not saying I have the same market influence his service does because he's been around much longer than I have. It's actually a good thing for my service that my NBA/Football lines don't move lines instantly as it makes it much easier for clients to follow my plays. I don't work day and night researching plays to then just rely on a line move and see steam to make my plays. I've done a bunch of WNBA Video picks with SBR and in them I outline all the reasons I make a certain play, none of which have anything to do with line movement/steam.

[raydog]

so what is your current wnba record? or do you wish to dodge that question again?

and im not real sure how your service is much like ras, when he has some of the best modelers around working with him and you make educated guess plays... really, you two are absolutely nothing alike... perhaps your businesses are similar in the way you charge or something, but besides that, the two have no similarities...

as far as football is concerned, its not that your football plays dont move the lines instantly, THEY DONT EFFECT THEM AT ALL..NEVER HAVE AND NEVER WILL...jesus

not many people are even capable of moving football lines with plays...he and walters are 2 of the few... again, please dont put yourself in their category man... its just silly talk ...

[sweetjones55]

so what is your current wnba record? or do you wish to dodge that question again?

and im not real sure how your service is much like ras, when he has some of the best modelers around working with him and you make educated guess plays... really, you two are absolutely nothing alike... perhaps your businesses are similar in the way you charge or something, but besides that, the two have no similarities...

as far as football is concerned, its not that your football plays dont move the lines instantly, THEY DONT EFFECT THEM AT ALL..NEVER HAVE AND NEVER WILL...jesus

not many people are even capable of moving football lines with plays...he and walters are 2 of the few... again, please dont put yourself in their category man... its just silly talk ...

I am currently 20-15 hitting 57% WNBA this year. Last season I went 33-20 hitting 62%. The way myself and RAS come up with plays are definitely different. He uses computers/models and I go more off my own research/feel. There is a very famous professional college basketball sports bettor named Alan Boston and he has done it the very same way as myself. Haralabos Voulgaris (best NBA sports bettor on the planet) in his early years was highly successful as a subjective bettor as well. I really don't feel that the method a person comes up with the plays is nearly as important as the win rate. At the end of the day, I think any one would rather follow a person hitting 59% without models then follow someone hitting 55% with models.

The similarities I was referring to with Right Angle Sports is the way we conduct business. He posts all his plays at tip as do I. He releases the most widely available lines as do I. He has all his records available for the sports he offers as do I. He also just conducts himself in a professional manner which is rare in the industry and I try my best to do the same.

I have not ever claimed to move any football lines as I don't. Football is a very liquid market and I agree with you that there are very few people who affect lines in that sport.

[raydog]

okay, i guess i was simply counting the wnba wins/losses at the bottom of your page and thats why i dont come up with 57% ... i guess it just follows the last 30, but you should def. update that where everyone can see or else it will give the wrong impression like i got ...

you have been very professional whilst taking shit in this thread... we will simply have to agree to disagree on line moves and your claim of beating 90% closers.. thats just unrealistic and someone claiming to make 6-figs off his service should be a multi-multi millionaire off his gambing alone (if he is beating closers in all sports 90% of the time) i know who is moving lines and what it takes to do it and im sorry to have argued with you, its just that i call bullshit when i see it...

hope you have a very successful football season

[RudyRuetigger]

raydog go fukk yourself pal

wtf is that response?

unbelievable.

touts are acceptable now.






















2 guys I have biggest respect for is lakerboy and paco because at one time they couldve sold their shit too, but didnt.


If I have a successful football season, i might be able to....but we all know I am just guessing.

[raydog]

raydog go fukk yourself pal

wtf is that response?

unbelievable.

touts are acceptable now.






















2 guys I have biggest respect for is lakerboy and paco because at one time they couldve sold their shit too, but didnt.


If I have a successful football season, i might be able to....but we all know I am just guessing.

i was merely trying to be a slightly diplomatic and end this... he, as well as anyone that reads this thread, knows he lost some credibility and as much as he got buried, he did a lot of the damage to himself with unrealistic comments, but remained in good spirits and didnt go ape shit... no need for further discussion, imo... if people dont get it now, they never will

[RudyRuetigger]

Good idea

I will end this thread

[sweetjones55]

okay, i guess i was simply counting the wnba wins/losses at the bottom of your page and thats why i dont come up with 57% ... i guess it just follows the last 30, but you should def. update that where everyone can see or else it will give the wrong impression like i got ...

you have been very professional whilst taking shit in this thread... we will simply have to agree to disagree on line moves and your claim of beating 90% closers.. thats just unrealistic and someone claiming to make 6-figs off his service should be a multi-multi millionaire off his gambing alone (if he is beating closers in all sports 90% of the time) i know who is moving lines and what it takes to do it and im sorry to have argued with you, its just that i call bullshit when i see it...

hope you have a very successful football season

I appreciate that. I wish you the best of luck as well.

[hockey216]

jimmy butler is good but i dont know about all star. 8.6p/4r/1.4a. he is good player i am not knocking him... but i dont know about "all star" just yet. maybe in couple years. good player. but not top 25.

[Winwin]

He releases the most widely available lines as do


ras realeases the game when all line abailable on all book you realease the game the day before when most of the book don't even have the lines yet you release the game 10am the day before when the game play 10pm the day after and you say it all line available

[hockey216]

hey sweetjones i might be interested in buying a package but 549 is a lot of money for me thats most of my bankroll. is there anyway you can bring down the cost? or do monthly packages where you can upgrade to full season with cost already paid deducted? thank you. have a nice day.

[Winwin]

sweetjone you realease the game when all lines don't available

[TwoWays]

fck em all. bury em all. the only bad publicity is no publicity.

[sweetjones55]

sweetjone you realease the game when all lines don't available

Every major sportsbook (Pinnacle, 5Dimes, Bookmaker etc) online has the lines available when I release if not I do not release.

[bfour]

SweetJones55 just tweet'd that he'll be releasing a free WNBA pick today. It will also be tweet'd out by the official SBR Twitter account. I'll post it up when he releases so everyone can once and for all see if his lines have market influence.

[hockey216]

sweetjones could you cut me a deal on the package? i am interested in buying but i am poor and cannot afford 549.

[sweetjones55]

sweetjones could you cut me a deal on the package? i am interested in buying but i am poor and cannot afford 549.

I am not allowed to respond to requests of these manner in any way on the forum. It's a violation of their rules.

[RudyRuetigger]

hockey

created a thread on college football

if i am not mentioned i will give you a free $500

how do i do it?

luck

[pulledclear]

Sweetjones, do your picks include a blowjob?

[jjgold]

Play nice

Only way is follow the guy via his website

How else we going to know?

[OpiateBank]

Since SweetJizz is now a paid sponsor of SBR is he allowed to shill ? Bfor, $4nothing, Trannycarp, are a few that they allow to lie for him, if they aren't Anthony his sweetness . Not one paid subscriber has ever defended this service, only his shills that admit to not being paid subscribers. Not one customer ?...... Here in the u.s. that can read English or have a computer. What's up with that.

[RudyRuetigger]

Play nice

Only way is follow the guy via his website

How else we going to know?

JJ GO FUKK YOUrsElf pal

YOU aRE Here BECAUSe geTTIng paid

how is that different

just follow the company line pal.

[pulledclear]

Are there really people dumb enough to send this half a fairy money???

[hockey216]

its not a violation of sbr rules for you to lower the cost of your package on your website, or to offer monthly options. please lower your price. i want to buy but cannot afford it.

[jjgold]

I don't pay touts
They are scammers

But if you really want to know what guy is doing follow him

So many seem interested
Sick of thread
Go do your own research

[TwoWays]

Play nice

Only way is follow the guy via his website

How else we going to know?

fck you jj! share some of the sbr profits since i've brought him so much unwarranted attention.

[crustyme]

I am not allowed to respond to requests of these manner in any way on the forum. It's a violation of their rules.

shilling for your own service is a violation of sbr rules. yet you violated it at least a dozen times.

get a real job instead of scamming, you piece of shit.

[pulledclear]

He looks like a relative of the junkie coke head.

[El Sol]

I don't pay touts
They are scammers

This is a disservice coming from someone who seems to have a lot of pull. Ive earned a solid 10% off a tout I've been using for over 10 years. Doesn't sound like much to the shi* stained punks around here who have this absurd belief that sports gambling is a get rich quick scheme. But 10% is better than most mutual funds which does well to supplement my poker income. The average cost of a good tout is about a unit a season, so for me, its well worth it.

Most are scammers, absolutely. But many are not. Its impossible to handicap all sports equally well and thats where a good tout comes in.

[pulledclear]

I am not allowed to respond to requests of these manner in any way on the forum. It's a violation of their rules.

Stick to tongue banging your boyfriends dooker.

[El Sol]

I am currently 20-15 hitting 57% WNBA this year. Last season I went 33-20 hitting 62%.

Percentages don't mean jack until at least a record of 1000 picks minimum. This is what Scamdicappers do, they brag about their 60% plus record, or say there up 50 units for the season....but all of it means jack as these are typical marketing ploys. Listing Big percentages numbers on a small sample size, or big Units numbers with varied unit bets..

You yourself admitted to betting between 1 - 3 units. An honest Handicapper lists bets at 1 unit per bet on a -110 line (1 to win 0.91) unless its a moneyline, regardless what they bet for real or what line they got. Varying unit size, lines other than -110, and buying points are all Scam tactics and should be avoided by all touts at all costs. Also, they wont brag about percentages until their sample size is large enough.

Its all about keeping legit, staying honest and what I mentioned is a universal code among touts,all legitimate ones know what I am talking about. Before you contradict me son, Ive been doing this for longer than you've been alive.

All this is probably the root cause of peoples distrust...

[sweetjones55]

Percentages don't mean jack until at least a record of 1000 picks minimum. This is what Scamdicappers do, they brag about their 60% plus record, or say there up 50 units for the season....but all of it means jack as these are typical marketing ploys. Listing Big percentages numbers on a small sample size, or big Units numbers with varied unit bets..

You yourself admitted to betting between 1 - 3 units. An honest Handicapper lists bets at 1 unit per bet on a -110 line (1 to win 0.91) unless its a moneyline, regardless what they bet for real or what line they got. Varying unit size, lines other than -110, and buying points are all Scam tactics and should be avoided by all touts at all costs. Also, they wont brag about percentages until their sample size is large enough.

Its all about keeping legit, staying honest and what I mentioned is a universal code among touts,all legitimate ones know what I am talking about. Before you contradict me son, Ive been doing this for longer than you've been alive.

All this is probably the root cause of peoples distrust...

I agree that my WNBA sample is small but I am winning at a pretty good rate early and consistently beating the closing line. I guess time will tell about my long term win rate in the sport but I really like my chances in this sport. The lines are soft. I don't brag about my short term records of that nature. Someone asked for my record in the WNBA so I posted it up. On my site you can see that the only numbers that are big on the site is my long term record of 540-373 which is close to 1000 plays.

As for the units, RAS releases plays on 1-2 unit scale. I do a 1-3 unit scale but the 3 unit plays are extremely rare, it's mostly all 1-2 unit plays.

[jjgold]

This is a disservice coming from someone who seems to have a lot of pull. Ive earned a solid 10% off a tout I've been using for over 10 years. Doesn't sound like much to the shi* stained punks around here who have this absurd belief that sports gambling is a get rich quick scheme. But 10% is better than most mutual funds which does well to supplement my poker income. The average cost of a good tout is about a unit a season, so for me, its well worth it.

Most are scammers, absolutely. But many are not. Its impossible to handicap all sports equally well and thats where a good tout comes in.

Good post....I WILL NOTE IT